The GPU's soldered on to the motherboard isn't it? Cor, and Apple don't do 2.2GHz processors any more.... might get a processor upgrade!
They might just give you a refurbished logic board in their inventories.
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So are all MBP owners with the 8600m GT cards screwed?
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They might just give you a refurbished logic board in their inventories.
Well, presumably the point of a recall would be to furnish an alternative chip, if 8600M GT is truly 'screwed'?
Even if there is a recall, it is extremely hard for Apple right now. THey cannot replace the chip with another nvidia chip because apparently many of the 8xxx and some of the 9xxx (i think) series have this apparent "time bomb". They can't switch to ATi for the graphics card either because that would require a COMPLETE redesign of the logic board.
The problem that would cause is people would devise plans or ask us how to intentionally kill the GPU.
Harder for nVidia really: they're the poor buggers who would have to foot the bill.
Teasing aside though, this issue is supposed to be related to hot cold cycles to the GPU. My MBP has probably been on and off at least twice a day for the last year without a whimper, so I would have thought that on the basis that they're all flawed, mine should have died quite a while back!
My GPU temp is 82 deg C lowest and highest at 98 deg C in Windows Vista. After reboot to OSX, it drops to 60 deg C. Huge difference and no problems
Yeah but vista runs everything hot!
What software are you running in vista to test it? Interested to see myself.
Yeah but vista runs everything hot!
What software are you running in vista to test it? Interested to see myself.
I am running GPU-Z. The GPU is hot because it is running at full speed and not underclocking itself unless I'm on battery.
It happened to me too. After 1 year and 12 days my MacBook Pro 17" 2.4 woke from sleep without an working display. Tried everything... all resets, battery drain, even cooling it in the freezer.. (yeah this was suggested somewhere in the Apple support Forum). Since I am abroad (Brazil) it took me about 15 days to find out where to take it and to find out the local apple representative. I was granted an extension in warranty for this repair by Apple.(took me lot of effort to get that ). Now I am waiting to see if the local repair shop will be able honor that extension and how long the repair will take.
If it gets repaired I will sell it in 6 months. In my view ALL Macbooks Pro with 8600M GT will fail after 1 year, give it or take it.
If it gets repaired I will sell it in 6 months. In my view ALL Macbooks Pro with 8600M GT will fail after 1 year, give it or take it.
Downloaded GPU-Z out of curiosity and in Vista 64-bit my GPU idles at 61 degrees, peaked at 71 degrees when I did an experience score test. Using 8600 GT driver in Forceware from LaptopVideo2Go.
In OS X, it idles at 55 degrees going up to 71 degrees in Warcraft III.
Yours seems hotter than mine all round. Wonder what the difference is?
Don't want to add to peoples woes, but I understand that Snow Leopard is going to use unused GPU capacity for system processing isn't it? Imagine that will make it even hotter. Oh dear oh dear.
I think if Apple admitted there was a problem with their GPU, they would recall all MacBook Pro's (at the expense of nVidia) that have it, and get given a new logic board which will have a new GPU on it (whatever mobile GPU nVidia has that won't screw up).
They can't just take back "some" because their GPU's already failed, when there is people who are about to run out of warranty who's haven't already failed.
Couldn't they just give all the faulty MacBook Pro owners the next generation MacBook Pro which will probably have an Ati card at the expense of Nvidia?
I would have thought nVidia would fight tooth and nail against having to pay to furnish customers with another suppliers product.
At the end of they day it was them that provided Apple with faulty goods, so there is NO reason why they shouldn't have to pay for the damage caused.
Yes, absolutely (assuming MBP nvidia GPUs do have an intrinsic issue, which is by no means certain at this point in time), but it would be unprecedented for them to replace it with someone elses product. Or are people now saying that the entire range of nVidia GPUs are faulty. If people are saying that then that's just patently ridiculous. Should a recall occur, I would be happy to bet that there's no way that they'll pay to put ATI chips in instead of supplying an alternative nVidia chip.
I have no idea why mine is extremely hotter. However, it has been pretty warm ambient wise the past week that I've reinstalled Vista on this system. I might decide to crack this thing open and redo the thermal paste. I'm a sucker for taking things apart
Well I got my Macbook tonight. Took them ONE DAY to do an entire logic board swap and have it ready for me again. Pretty nice.
I was still unable to buy AppleCare and have a 90 day warranty on the service.
I'm still extremely worried about it dying again. I know it died because I suddenly started playing Spore a crapload, then sleeping it after a long time playing, then resuming, sleeping, etc (Lots of free periods in school)
It's freaking me out to the point of wanting to sell it. I love it to death but I don't want to be stuck doing this again.
I was still unable to buy AppleCare and have a 90 day warranty on the service.
I'm still extremely worried about it dying again. I know it died because I suddenly started playing Spore a crapload, then sleeping it after a long time playing, then resuming, sleeping, etc (Lots of free periods in school)
It's freaking me out to the point of wanting to sell it. I love it to death but I don't want to be stuck doing this again.
Not a coincidence
My MacBook Pro bought June 11, 2007 has the same problem -- obviously a bad nVidia GPU -- There's no denying that hundreds of MacBook Pros are encountering this problem the last few weeks, and depending on how people use their laptops, there will be thousands more...
I don't have AppleCare, so I'll be out $1200 on a 15 month old computer?
Dell is offering 12-month limited warranty enhancement to all customers of laptops with defective Nvidia GPUs!
It's unacceptable not to have recall.
http://www.mobilewhack.com/dell-extends-warranty-on-8600m-gt/
http://blogs.zdnet.com/Apple/?p=2108
My MacBook Pro bought June 11, 2007 has the same problem -- obviously a bad nVidia GPU -- There's no denying that hundreds of MacBook Pros are encountering this problem the last few weeks, and depending on how people use their laptops, there will be thousands more...
I don't have AppleCare, so I'll be out $1200 on a 15 month old computer?
Dell is offering 12-month limited warranty enhancement to all customers of laptops with defective Nvidia GPUs!
It's unacceptable not to have recall.
http://www.mobilewhack.com/dell-extends-warranty-on-8600m-gt/
http://blogs.zdnet.com/Apple/?p=2108
You must use and run InputRemapper in XP/Vista and their equivalent for OSX (smcFanControl). Alternate, you can run smcFanControl in OSX, then restart on XP (fan speed are keep between reboots).
Latest MBP dont' have a automatic fan control, so the fan speed is done via software (and its pretty faulty).
Also, there are different kind of nvidia drivers, ones can be more hot (and usually more fps) and other are more cold.
I have no idea why mine is extremely hotter. However, it has been pretty warm ambient wise the past week that I've reinstalled Vista on this system. I might decide to crack this thing open and redo the thermal paste. I'm a sucker for taking things apart
And to lose the warranty?.
I think sooner or later, several mbp will be return for warranty and Apple
will try to void the warranty for every single detail.