What i meant was sometimes technicians forget to re-encode serial numbers to replacement boards (yours remembered) which could be a telltale sign. In your case you're gonna have to assume they did based on the genius receipt saying so
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So are all MBP owners with the 8600m GT cards screwed?
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What i meant was sometimes technicians forget to re-encode serial numbers to replacement boards (yours remembered) which could be a telltale sign. In your case you're gonna have to assume they did based on the genius receipt saying so
It does get quite toasty especially when on my lap whilst wearing jeans but its not unbearable (compared to Rev As Core Duo models that hit 80C sometimes). Also majority of the time i'm on a desk and the temps are relatively good during this time. Right now Diode is at 59C and CPU 49C which isn't bad at all
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1. Buy applecare for MBP if not included already.
2. Install boot camp with vista.
3. Buy iskin or external protection for MBP.
4. Buy most graphics intensive game and other applications that will run on machine on either vista or osx.
5. Play the crap out of the MBP. Let your roommate relative, etc., play it if you get tired of it.
6. If GPU craps out due to excessive usage, exchange under applecare.
7 If GPU does not crap out, your card is not defective.
1. Buy applecare for MBP if not included already.
2. Install boot camp with vista.
3. Buy iskin or external protection for MBP.
4. Buy most graphics intensive game and other applications that will run on machine on either vista or osx.
5. Play the crap out of the MBP. Let your roommate relative, etc., play it if you get tired of it.
6. If GPU craps out due to excessive usage, exchange under applecare.
7 If GPU does not crap out, your card is not defective.
Guys, I believe that apple is now fixing JUST the GPU's... I mean, the first time my GPU died, they simply swapped logic boards at the store I brought it in to. This time, I was specficially told that for the bad GPU apple sends the machines out to one of their facilities in Tennessee. With the proper equipment it is possible to actually change the GPU chip in the logic board without just replacing the whole logic board. I do believe that now going forward apple will be using GPU's that are not prone to failure and not OLD stock and just hope for the best. If this issue happens to me once more, apple will be giving me a brand new machine. Let me add that I do play games in windows and the machine gets quite hot probably accelerating the problem in my case.
That's interesting. I would think this would be half true - they likely still swap the logic board, but probably with a 'reconditioned' unit. It just makes more business sense to repair bad boards in bulk than to handle them on a case by case basis. But who knows, maybe the issue is not quite as prevalent as we seem to think it is - at least not yet.
Swapping a logic board is simple, I've removed mine twice before, if this is all that was being done then they could just order the part to the store and swap the logic board like they did the first time I had the GPU issue. Sending the machine to a 'special' facility suggests to me that it is more than just a logic board swap. Much less cost effective to send the whole machine next day air to and from than to just send a logic board to the store where my machine is no? Apple is definitely handling this different than they were before they acknowledged the problem.
Hmm... it could be that they have a new process established where
1) A tech team removes/installs boards
2) Another dept handles the refurshing of the boards
3) A QA dept is setup to run a battery of tests that goes beyond the scope of what is can be done at the Apple store. For instance, ambient thermal loading.
Maybe because of #3 it's more cost effective to send the machine out, or maybe this (and overnight shipping) is done on repeat problem machines?
What's the quoted turnaround time?
FWIW, I manage an R&D team that creates supply chain inventory management systems.
That's not how it works. You have to heat it up doing things and then put it to sleep without giving it a chance to cool down. The defect comes in the fact that the chips warp, not "crap out".
I bought my MBP when they first released the LED screens with the 2.2 - 128mb 8600m card. I have had it for almost a year and half now, and I was thinking about selling it to get the new Macbooks. Seeing this thread makes me want to sell it even more, but I am not sure if the "downgrading" to a Macbook is the a good idea, as I use Adobe Suite and some 3D programs like Rhino...??
Dude, we have the same machine!! woot..
I dunno about you but to date, mine's been fairly reliable, minus the faulty TFT and low performance battery. I don't plan to get rid of it yet cause it has a beautiful matte display and from all the serious bashing I give it, it's just kept on going.
In a way I like the new machines and I also hate them... it's the bleedin glass covered display! reminds me of televisions from the 60's and 70's with the glass protector!! lol
Dude, we have the same machine!! woot..
I dunno about you but to date, mine's been fairly reliable, minus the faulty TFT and low performance battery. I don't plan to get rid of it yet cause it has a beautiful matte display and from all the serious bashing I give it, it's just kept on going.
In a way I like the new machines and I also hate them... it's the bleedin glass covered display! reminds me of televisions from the 60's and 70's with the glass protector!! lol
woot woot! I, KNOCK ON WOOD, have had a great experience with my MBP. I use graphic heavy programs daily and its been good. I am just worried that its going to die on me and them I'm screwed, where I can instead sell it get the new Macbook for about the same price I will get for my MBP. The glass screen would take some getting used too...but I don't want to get off topic. I just am a little nervous now about it going out!
I hated the late 2008's so much, I brought the previous gen 2.5Mhz machine for backup! Well... that's my idea of security and it was really cheap!!! Think I've saved about $1000 of the Unibody.
Yes....
Thanks for the new name. I have a new (41st week built) Penryn 2.4 Macbook Pro and people have been wondering what good way to distinguish from the new ones.
I'm calling mine the Ring of Death Macbook Pro.
No one can say yet if the more recent machines (post September) or the repairs of the Nividia cards replaced in the new logic boards are merely Dead Man Walking machines with a new death clock or a fix to the Nvidia problem.
But we're still waiting for some additional user reports. Apple isn't helping us answer the question that's for sure.
Thanks for the new name. I have a new (41st week built) Penryn 2.4 Macbook Pro and people have been wondering what good way to distinguish from the new ones.
I'm calling mine the Ring of Death Macbook Pro.
No one can say yet if the more recent machines (post September) or the repairs of the Nividia cards replaced in the new logic boards are merely Dead Man Walking machines with a new death clock or a fix to the Nvidia problem.
But we're still waiting for some additional user reports. Apple isn't helping us answer the question that's for sure.
How so?...surely Apple wouldnt make that mistake again. Maybe they should just stick with ATI
I stand corrected.
5. Let you and your roommate, etc, play the crap out of the MBP, and shut it down abruptly on an irregular basis.
I can't remember what post it was, but it is on MacRumors Forums. The person said he was having graphical problems with his 'brick' macbook pro so he took it into the store, the genius told him that it's the same issue that the older MBP owners are suffering from. Looks like Nvidia have TOTALLY screwed up! I won't be surprised if they are wiped off the market any time soon.
When is Nvidia due to announce what's new and their profits etc, q4 or something? If they do will they announce that the 8600 have been fixed or will that encourage people to go and get their non-faulty(yet) ones swapped, making Nvidia lose more money???
yes, i read something like this a while back actually. I believe the story is apple had already designed their bodies and dimensions etc with an nvidia gpu in mind, so rather than redesign and reset all their machinery its far cheaper to go on with production and hope for the best...no?
One account doesn't make it the same as the older GPUs, anyone could have made that up. It took awhile for the 8600 disaster to become known so I have a hard time believing that. Right up until Apple acknowledged the nVidia issue their genius' were denying knowledge that anything was wrong with them. I don't think they're allowed to make statements like that. The problem w/ the 8600 was the solder, you don't actually believe they would do that again do you?
beware and check with apple now
My MBP sh@t itself a week ago JUST out of warranty, but apparently because it was the same particular gpu problem the warranty got slightly extended. There were no warning signs. The screen simply did not work one day. It would have cost $1500 to fix if not covered, so I'd recommend people check with apple now so see if you're covered or not, and what your options are either way.
My MBP sh@t itself a week ago JUST out of warranty, but apparently because it was the same particular gpu problem the warranty got slightly extended. There were no warning signs. The screen simply did not work one day. It would have cost $1500 to fix if not covered, so I'd recommend people check with apple now so see if you're covered or not, and what your options are either way.
Well they did
8400 and 8600, 9200, 9400(not sure if it affects the MacBook as it was specially designed for it), 9600(maybe) all faulty.