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So are all MBP owners with the 8600m GT cards screwed?

ghostguts said:
Yeah, but it sounds like you're selling it based on different reasons. There are a few people here and there that are selling it (somewhat prematurely, in my mind) based on the assumption that the GPU will fail, hoping that they can get some cash, while letting someone else deal with a potential problem.
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Well, that is why we have "caveat emptor", I guess. The OP is still well within his one year of included AppleCare and if they bought the three year plan, well that's even better for the eventual buyer if the unit does, indeed, suffer a GPU failure - which is statistically very unlikely.

And the those who are trying to "offload" their systems are taking a financial hit themselves - especially if they only recently bought the system. So their fear has a direct cost to themselves that is likely higher then the buyer, since the buyer will still be covered under warranty.
 
prism said:
You still didn't answer my question: did you mention on ebay that the MBP you are selling might have a defective GPU?
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Of course not, then how will I ever sell it~ But its ok, no one along with hundreds of sellers with the nvidia gpu are not saying a word. Especially hp, asus, dell sellers with the nvidia 8xxx series are keeping their trap shut.
 
jjahshik32 said:
Of course not, then how will I ever sell it~ But its ok, no one along with hundreds of sellers with the nvidia gpu are not saying a word. Especially hp, asus, dell sellers with the nvidia 8xxx series are keeping their trap shut.
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NVIDIA: "Of course not, then how will I ever sell it..."
 
I have had absolutely no problems with my macbook pro so I'm not selling anything that has a problem to begin with. Also I've only had this laptop for a couple of months and its already covered under the 3 year apple care protection.

I'm just selling it because I believe it will work fine for 3 years and crap out just after the 3 years warranty is over. Also because I dont do anything gpu intensive at all so it'll gradually and very slowly die instead of the 1-2 years I believe I'll kill it in 3-4 years.

ps: I bet you guys are looking for my sn on ebay, lol sorry to tell you that my sn is totally different on ebay than here or other threads I might have popped up at.
 
Then keep it for the 3 years and then sell it after AppleCare is up. You're panicking over nothing. NVIDIA stated the 8 series has seen a higher % rate of failures. Yet you some how translated that as all of them will fail early.
 
quagmire said:
Then keep it for the 3 years and then sell it after AppleCare is up. You're panicking over nothing. NVIDIA stated the 8 series has seen a higher % rate of failures. Yet you some how translated that as all of them will fail early.
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You do have a point.. dont get me wrong.. I'm torn from selling it or keeping it.. the 17" hi res mbp is THE best notebook I've ever used.. and everytime I use it, it makes me want to just keep it.. I"m so close to either selling it on ebay or just ending the item and keeping it myself..

AHH I think I might just keep it damnit~ I just really want to hear the official announcement by nvidia but I have a feeling that the first one they made is as far as they'll announce it. I think I'll just keep it for the 3 years with ac and then end up selling it. I'm done with this and will just freaking use the damn thing.. I dont have any over heating issues and runs damn cool.. maybe I got one of the good ones?? Because my gpu diode never goes over 57C with my genernal stuff.. and only hovers around 49C-54C usually but I've seen it go the highest to 67C when I have 30+ stuff open.

Another thing is that I've done the mac pro thing already.. and owned a macbook before, but the mbp are the perfect machine for me and I have no other choices.
 
I'm just wondering why the 128mb version of the nvidia 8600m gt card mbp is crapping out now and others seems to be fine.

Could it be that specific notebook configuration with these gpu are having the issues? I know some 2.4ghz model crapped out but only read about a few posts so it seems like an isolated issue.

But most of the time someone complains about their gpu dying it ends up being the 2.2ghz mbp model.
 
Thermal Paste again!!!!!!!

Is this going to bring up the whols thermial paste issue again? My GPU runs betweem 50C to 60C and 80C when gaming I tried SNC fan cntrol and all it does is make the computer loud. I wounder what the fix is because if all the chips are bad wh will they replace them with.
 
Apple won't recall it because the failure rate is likely not that high. The same reason nVidia is not doing a recall. nVidia ships close to 30 million GPUs a year, so setting aside $200 million for this issue is contingency for a very small percentage of those.

Frankly, having dropped over $3000 on a 17" MBP with three years of AC, I'd be taking my chances rather then hoping I might get $2000 on the open market and then dropping $3000+ on a Mac Pro that didn't seem to work for you the last time you bought one, since you sent it back.

But again, it's your money. If you have it to burn, why not keep warm.
 
CWallace said:
Apple won't recall it because the failure rate is likely not that high. The same reason nVidia is not doing a recall. nVidia ships close to 30 million GPUs a year, so setting aside $200 million for this issue is contingency for a very small percentage of those.

Frankly, having dropped over $3000 on a 17" MBP with three years of AC, I'd be taking my chances rather then hoping I might get $2000 on the open market and then dropping $3000+ on a Mac Pro that didn't seem to work for you the last time you bought one, since you sent it back.

But again, it's your money. If you have it to burn, why not keep warm.
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I wouldnt be selling my mbp for $2000, lol. I could easily get at least $2850 and even $3020 and just loose on the $200 I paid for my 3 year apple care that I bought off ebay.

I listed my 17" mbp on craigslist and already gotten offers for $2800 cash.

Also the mac pro I had was the best desktop I've ever owned and osx ran so silky smooth sometimes I really do miss that. Anyway I had the mbp and mac pro at the same time and I decided to sell my mac pro that's on my sig and someone actually bought my rig for $4400 and I decided to just keep the mbp since both could do everything I wanted to do and the mac pro felt like overkill.

But now I'm thinking about selling the mbp for $2950 and buying a mac pro off amazon with rebate it will cost $2575 and use the rest + extra for a 23" ACD.

Currently I have my mbp listed for the price I want on ebay and if it ends up selling at the price that I want then so be it if it ends without it being sold, I'll take my chances with apple care.
 
So far lots of Apple portables have had issues

Let's see:

iBook G3 logic boards
iBook G4 logic boards
Powerbook 12" logic boards
Powerbook 15" lower ram slot
Powerbook 17" vertical lines on display
Battery issues with Powerbook 12" and 15"
1st version Macbook Pro overheating and battery bulging

Looks like almost all portable macs from 2003-2008 with the exception of Macbooks!

And in all cases, Apple just specified a small range of serial numbers where a larger range was affected (based on user reports)

Maybe it is time to just use a Hackintosh :)
 
ggjstudios said:
... If Apple does issue a recall and offers to replace all defective parts at no cost, it will work just like automotive recalls. Some will accept the offer and go through the inconvenience in order to get their product repaired, and some won't. That's up to them....
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I highly doubt Apple will issue a recall. Do you know how many MBPs Apple has sold with NV gpus in them? And with what will Apple replace the NVs? NV itself has also stated publicly that this problem (presumably with the substrate material used to manufacture the gpu) may extend into other products and possibly into the future (NV9600s anyone?). In light of the fact that the GPU is soldered onto the Mobo, and the only way to fix the problem is with a Mobo replacement, then the only option would be to upgrade all MBPs to a Centrino2 (Penryn chip on the Montevina platform) and ONLY IF Apple chooses to use an ATI/AMD gpu instead of NV. Likelihood of mass upgrade/replacement of all mobos due to 8X00 gpus - highly unlikely. Rather, Apple will likely replace all failed GPUs as they fail and bill NV quietly. The only possible way this would change is if NV admitted all 8X00 gpus were defective publicly. But again, this is highly unlikely, barring hard evidence and a lawsuit.
 
jjahshik32 said:
If you think about, its strange as to why Nvidia has not given the specific model gpu as being defective..

Maybe to protect the OEM from the lawsuit cases?
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Nope. NV won't give specific model numbers because they want to stay in business. If the pessimists are correct (every gpu is defective) and every OEM took its pound of flesh from NV, then I could see NV going bankrupt and OEMs getting hung with the price of repairs/mobo replacements. Even if every board is not defective, if NV announces which models are defective, the class-action lawyers will circle NV like vultures circling a dying animal.
 
zsft said:
Yeah...ain't going to happen, because Apple doesn't have anything else to replace it with. And Nvidia won't be able to fix it either too since its new GTX200 series are getting destroyed by ATi's HD3800s, and on another front Rambus is suing them. I'd be surprised if Apple sticks with Nvidia in the next revision of MBPs.

hahaha guys stop googling ppl's names...these discussions are getting so personal
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Ditto my thoughts. I see Apple going to ATI/AMD with its next MBP revision; though this might delay the MBP if Apple had previously planned to use NV before this disclosure.
 
macuser1109 said:
Let's see:

iBook G3 logic boards
iBook G4 logic boards
Powerbook 12" logic boards
Powerbook 15" lower ram slot
Powerbook 17" vertical lines on display
Battery issues with Powerbook 12" and 15"
1st version Macbook Pro overheating and battery bulging
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The first iBook G4s were problematic. The last revisions were good.
 
It's sad to go through life being terrified of a problem that may or may not exist. If something happens, it's easy to do something about it. If something doesn't happen, it's even easier to do nothing about it.
 
m1stake said:
It's sad to go through life being terrified of a problem that may or may not exist. If something happens, it's easy to do something about it. If something doesn't happen, it's even easier to do nothing about it.
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But this doesnt make any sense if the $3200 macbook pro dies right after the 3 yr apple care warranty and you cry about it to apple, they'll just turn you away. Then there's nothing you can do "about it." And the only thing to do "about it," is to buy a new $2500-$3000 mbp and use your old mbp as the most expensive paper weight in the world.
 
I think you missed the part where I said "If something happens, do something about it".

Like, get it fixed. Or complain on websites. Or both!

Plus if you have no problems with selling it with something that you're so positive is defective (Forget proof, we don't need that), why not sell it after it's defective (Which it probably already is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!).
 
m1stake said:
I think you missed the part where I said "If something happens, do something about it".

Like, get it fixed. Or complain on websites. Or both!

Plus if you have no problems with selling it with something that you're so positive is defective (Forget proof, we don't need that), why not sell it after it's defective (Which it probably already is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!).
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But getting it fixed will cost the same as buying a new one.. and selling it for parts is a bi*ch~

Since we do know that the gpu is defective, we already know its going to die much sooner than it should (probably 2-3 years when it should be at least 7 years) which isnt too enticing at all.
 
Sorry OP, even though you may think that you aren't doing anything wrong...the inner thought process at the root is pretty shady.

I hear ATI drivers are hard to deal with. I am glad I got my 2.16 after reading this thread, but until there is a barrage of faulty GPUs...doesn't seem like a big deal to me.
 
As you guys can tell, I really hate not knowing which specific notebook/gpu are affected..

I guess I'm just pissed off since I finally found the perfect notebook and now there could be a chance that the gpu will crap out on me..

Otherwise the mbp are the best notebooks in the world.
 
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