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Other So mad at Apple (Galaxy Z Fold7)

nathansz said:
What sort of work do you do?

Sincerely curious and interested
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Mostly hobby work with photography. I need to practice more video editing, but primarily I take still photos, people, landscape, & night sky. I mostly post to instagram @toddhphy. The BeastGrip rigs & lenses are used to give the iPhone more flexibility. I wish I was a full time photographer, but it’s part hobby & a business. I do use a Sony A7RV mirrorless camera with Sony & Sigma lenses for paid photo work as previously mentioned. My full time job, I’m a service technician for JF Petroleum, working on gas stations & repairing fuel dispensers and POS systems. That keeps me very busy.
 
It’s like Apple waited to get a quality foldable to market rather than rush a subpar one. Yet Samsung have beaten them to it by over a year despite that.

I know people always say “Apple are rarely first to market” well imagine the market impact they’d have if they were first. Being last isn’t something to brag about yet for some reason because it’s Apple we forgive them.

This is the tech industry where advancements and new trends manifest fast. They need to be ahead of the game for a change, not behind it.
 
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I couldn’t care less about foldable phones. However, I am frustrated that there is no current iPhone mini.
 
masotime said:
They didn’t do this with the Vision Pro though.

They could have released a “iPhone pro fold” in a similar fashion to the Vision Pro as a niche item, but they didn’t.
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Perhaps they didn't but regardless if they did or not, the Vision Pro has been yet another success for the company (and Tim Cook)
 
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macbookj0e said:
It’s like Apple waited to get a quality foldable to market rather than rush a subpar one. Yet Samsung have beaten them to it by over a year despite that.

I know people always say “Apple are rarely first to market” well imagine the market impact they’d have if they were first. Being last isn’t something to brag about yet for some reason because it’s Apple we forgive them.

This is the tech industry where advancements and new trends manifest fast. They need to be ahead of the game for a change, not behind it.
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Its not just Samsung. The Chinese foldables are even more impressive packing 6000mah Silicon Carbide batteries with even better cameras. Samsung doesn't try to beat them because they are banned in the US
 
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I find it really strange you would be mad at a corporation when you could just buy a different foldable.
I don’t really understand why would would need anything bigger than a pro max anyway but to each their own.
 
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Radon87000 said:
Its a mass market failure. There is just no use case for it.
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Apple sold an (estimated low end number) 500,000 Vision Pros.

Even at an entry level price point of $3,500 that equates to $1.75 billion (again low end estimate) USD.

Hardly a "Mass Market Failure, and there are plenty of use cases for the device.
 
Naraxus said:
Apple sold an (estimated low end number) 500,000 Vision Pros.
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No, they didn’t. They expected to sell half a million in the first year. The estimate is somewhere between 370-420k sold. And they had a very high return rate (for an Apple product, anyway). They ceased production back in January because they had enough to fill all orders for months to come.
 
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HouseLannister said:
No, they didn’t. They expected to sell half a million in the first year. The estimate is somewhere between 370-420k sold. And they had a very high return rate (for an Apple product, anyway). They ceased production back in January because they had enough to fill all orders for months to come.
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Yes they did and a simple Google search would have told you the same, albeit the 500k is the high end of the estimate scale.
 
Naraxus said:
Apple sold an (estimated low end number) 500,000 Vision Pros.

Even at an entry level price point of $3,500 that equates to $1.75 billion (again low end estimate) USD.

Hardly a "Mass Market Failure, and there are plenty of use cases for the device.
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I am not talking in terms of value. In terms of volume it hasnt moved anything. Several of those who bought it have kept in on shelves catching dust. Its too bulky and uncomfortable to wear for long periods of time and its a product trying to be a solution to a problem which doesn't exist.

There is a reason Apple is now making a cheaper version of this but apart from the initial sales surge from Apple fans, even that will not take off in my view.
 
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masotime said:
These are not issues anymore. The technology has matured quite a bit - it’s why Apple is finally seriously considering it, but they are very late to the game.
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I have seen many reviews of current gen foldables (including a few fold 7s) citing screen creases, stress-failure (cracks or pixel failure) on day one or within a couple of months, and scratches from dust.. not to mention everyone I've asked insisted on screen protectors for the abrasion issues. Another issue a friend mentioned to me recently was the screen burn in issue still being a thing too.. Even if Apple are happy with whatever they have to work with now, I still think the nature of that display technology means it will likely fail more often and/or earlier than static-surface displays.. I think if you are dumping that kind of money on a device and you want it to last as long as a Pro Max, for example, you're going to be disappointed for the forceable future.
 
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I have seen many reviews of current gen foldables (including a few fold 7s) citing screen creases, stress-failure (cracks or pixel failure) on day one or within a couple of months, and scratches from dust.. not to mention everyone I've asked insisted on screen protectors for the abrasion issues. Another issue a friend mentioned to me recently was the screen burn in issue still being a thing too.. Even if Apple are happy with whatever they have to work with now, I still think the nature of that display technology means it will likely fail more often and/or earlier than static-surface displays.. I think if you are dumping that kind of money on a device and you want it to last as long as a Pro Max, for example, you're going to be disappointed for the forceable future.
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I think it's impossible to understate the importance of the quality of the inner screen. Especially with respect to how prone it might be to scratches and the like from normal use. Will be very curious to hear what Apple has to say about this next year.
 
cypressc said:
I've seen foldable phones and they just seemed like a gimmick. Last night I had dinner with a friend who had the new Galaxy Z Fold 7.

I own every product in the Apple store and this was the first thing I've seen that made me want to ditch my iPhone. I couldn't believe how amazing it was. Folded it was thinner than my iPhone 16 Pro Max. Videos on the open screen were breathtaking, and there was no hint of a seam down the middle. And this this is so thin when opened you just can't believe it.

I haven't been to MacRumors in awhile, so I went and looked and they peg an Apple foldable phone for fall of NEXT YEAR.

What in the world is going on at Apple? They have all the cash in the world, all the top people, and they just can't do this stuff?

Honestly, this phone made my iPhone look like a Gen 1 product. If you haven't held one, you will first be amazed at the phone itself, but as that wears off you will just get madder and madder thinking about how Apple missed this. It's like the company has been asleep for five plus years.
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As someone who owned (and loved) the Z Fold 2 and Z Fold 4, I don't think Apple is doing anything wrong here. Given the current state of foldable tech, which is much much better than it was even two years ago, Apple's launch strikes me as both acceptable and very "Apple".
 
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I currently carry the 16PM and Fold 7.

I would love to have a Flip iPhone and a Fold Android. But I will settle for a Fold iPhone and a Flip Android. That's only if the iPhone Fold proves to be a real contender.
 
This is a deeply unhealthy outlook. If you want to have a folding phone, buy one. Don’t get mad at Apple as though it’s a person in your life. It’s a company. Companies don’t care about you.
 
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CyberDavis said:
Foldable phones have issues with creases in the screen, and there were mechanical issues with the hinges being a weak point.
Yes, the latest Samsung apparently resolved these.
So maybe Apple was waiting for tech to allow them to deliver a foldable that didn’t have those issues.
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Just like they did with the Vision Pro. Yet there is no iPhone pro fold. The contradiction is enormous.
 
Where are my fellow people who are trying to use their phones less and downgrade as they get older? Foldable sounds great tho, hope you all enjoy it.
 
KRiWOLF said:
I have seen many reviews of current gen foldables (including a few fold 7s) citing screen creases, stress-failure (cracks or pixel failure) on day one or within a couple of months, and scratches from dust..
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For the Fold 7 specifically - that seems extremely unlikely to me given the test I saw on YouTube. I'd like to see these citations for myself, can these be shared?
 
I am of more that my iPhone is ancillary device to my computers. A foldable iPhone is to me going to be compromised niche product no matter it price and size. Apple more then likely had something in the pipeline so it is going to be a wait and see to what they offer.
 
richpjr said:
I haven't seen one in person, but crease on the new version is supposed to be hard to see now.
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I had the opportunity to check out the Fold 7 yesterday and can confirm that they drastically improved the crease. It’s still there, but not as obvious as it was on the previous iterations.
 
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