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So the camera is flawed? [purple halo/haze] [merged]

That's not purple, it's Sapphire.

(I'm sure this has been said before, but I'm not going to read 10 pages of posts to find out...)
 
i tested my samsung galaxy S2 which i used before getting an iphone 5 and it also had some purple flare when i angled the camera just right.....i really don't think its THAT big of an issue - although i wonder if it can be fixed through a software update?
 
The sapphire apple uses is the same type used on the crystal of highend watches such as Rolex. It's clear.
 
I did a test the other day after reading that the iPhone 5 camera is giving issues, and this is what I got.

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Bummer.. I hope they fix this with the next software update.
 
Sylon said:
The sapphire Apple is using is artificially made in labs, and come out crystal clear. Natural sapphire can be blue, but that's not what Apple uses in their cameras. So that couldn't be the cause of the purple. Especially after their edit saying that the same issue is found with the 4S.

The tv show How Its Made or How Do They Do That (I forget which one) on the Science channel shows exactly how artificial sapphire is made. Is the same type of sapphire used as windshields on military attack helicopters.
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That's correct. Any wristwatch that has a sapphire crystal uses the same synthetic material. It's very durable and doesn't have a colored tint. If anyone sees a color shift it's purple fringing which is a common photographic problem with uncorrected lenses.

Better dedicated camera lenses are corrected for it using aspherical elements and lens coatings. To think a camera phone would be immune is a bit of a stretch. Even some SLR lenses costing more than the iPhone can run into this issue.

The best thing to do is avoid backlit scenes where the main light source faces the lens (phone).
 
I've had pics like this with my 4S, but it was because of how the sun was hitting it. Is this really a iPhone 5 specific issue?
 
I know this is not a big issue to other people but the camera is one of the most important parts of the phones. I've loved the way the camera worked on the 4 and the 4S and expected it to be at least just as good with the 5.

The the most part it is, just as good if not better. However I go back and look at my photos on my 5 from a sporting event recently and they are littered with purple all over the place from the lights.

So it is a big deal to some people, one that I seriously hope can be fixed with software but how long are we going to have to wait for that?
 
protobiont said:
I'm not convinced that Techcrunch is real journalism.



Real journalists don't write like that. Is it user contributed or something? I see a lot of terrible writing on there.
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Its actually gramatically correct. It is seen which is the past participle because they used the word have in the first half of the sentence and the same noun is performing both actions in the same clause.
 
Tmurray315 said:
I hope apple would so something about this anyone talked to apple about this issue
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www.cultofmac.com/193769/purple-len...-says/?utm_medium=twit&utm_campaign=spread-us

Our engineering team just gave me this information and we recommend that you angle the camera away from the bright light source when taking pictures. The purple flare in the image provided is considered normal behavior for iPhone 5’s camera. If you wish to reach me regarding this case number *********, please contact me at 1-877-***-**** ext. *******. I currently work Thursday-Monday: 7:00am – 3:30pm Mountain Time. If you reach my voicemail, please leave your name, phone number, case number and the best time to reach you. Email is deborah_thompson@apple.com.

Sincerely,
Debby
AppleCare Support
 
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blackhand1001 said:
Its actually gramatically correct. It is seen which is the past participle because they used the word have in the first half of the sentence and the same noun is performing both actions in the same clause.
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Yeah, someone else corrected me too. Thanks.
 
Yeah, had the purple haze on photos taken with the iPhone 5 (now returned for refund to Apple), it also had other problems. Graphical glitches and lines of colored pixels when tapping folders. Foldergate? Pixelgate? As well as that the battery lasted at most half a day even with low usage, not great.

So, took photos of the sun through glass window, with the 4S I'm now back on - and not purple'ness.
 
iDom74 said:
Yeah, had the purple haze on photos taken with the iPhone 5 (now returned for refund to Apple), it also had other problems. Graphical glitches and lines of colored pixels when tapping folders. Foldergate? Pixelgate? As well as that the battery lasted at most half a day even with low usage, not great.

So, took photos of the sun through glass window, with the 4S I'm now back on - and not purple'ness.
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It's the specific angle. If you try compare both at the exact same location, the same height and angle, both will have flares.

I'll get a pic from my xperia neo and prove that it's not just an iPhone 5 thing. It's not the 'sapphire coating', it has little to no effect. It is the wavelength of the light that causes purple to be picked up. Wonder why DSLRs and others don't get it? Their optics and processing is better. It's like the Leica M8, it can be fixed with a different profile, which can explain why camera+ and third party apps do not seem to see the significance of the purple flare.
 
timychann said:
It's the specific angle. If you try compare both at the exact same location, the same height and angle, both will have flares.
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Both flare. But the picture taken with the iPhone 5 in the identical location as the iPhone 4S, has a purple flare.
 
if i could figure out how to post a picture here i would show you how bad the purple flare is on my galaxy s2
 
I wonder if there a layer of anti-glare on the saphire lens.. If so, that ag film usually has a purple tint to it. Same stuff they use on some watches and higher-end plasma tv's.. you only see it at an angle
 
People. Reality check. A camera and lens combo that's smaller than a pencil eraser is never going to produce flawless images. Look at a DSLR. See how big the lenses are? They're big so they can collect lots of light and so that the optics can be more complex, ground to tighter tolerances and include many layers of optical coatings. Meanwhile, the sensor in even a micro 4/3 camera is much much larger than the one in the iPhone meaning better color rendition, more accurate distortion compensation, lower noise...

Yes, you can take an amazing image with a pinhole camera if you're an amazing photographer, but no one is going to mistake the image for one produced on a full sized camera. Each medium includes a range of inherent limitations.

iPhone's camera is outstanding when you consider how minuscule it is.
 
what do people think this is the jesus phone that it must absolutely take perfect pictures each and every time otherwise it's flawed? i can't believe you're complaining about a purple flare on what is pretty much a flawless picture. have you guys tried taking pictures at night with the iphone 5? I'm surprised you guys are not complaining more about the picture quality at night.
 
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