I was at the apple store palisades tonight, and as I was leaving just before they closed, a group of 19 (yes, I counted) Asians came in together and parked themselves outside the store with sleeping bags and stadium chairs.
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So wrong in trying to snag a few iPads for quick resale?
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Hang on a minute guys....let me get my popcorn!
Ok, let's see. . . we've got:
Asians? Check.
Bottled water scenario? Check.
Capitalism argument? Check.
Can somebody please toss in a midget?
hey now, midget tossing isn't cool
So if there were no scalpers and no one reselling the Ipad 2, does that mean that everyone that wanted one would be able to walk into an Apple store and buy it without waiting in line or waiting for days/weeks?
NO! Not even close! The demand would still outstrip the supply and when this imbalance occurs, a secondary market always emerges...always.
NO! Not even close! The demand would still outstrip the supply and when this imbalance occurs, a secondary market always emerges...always.
correction- people like me GET your argument, we just make fun of it because it's stupid. People comparing reselling ipads to your bottled water disaster scenario lol. So how are these people trying to buy ipads off of ebay any less "regular consumers" than the guy standing in line. And how is a price "criminal" if it doesn't break any law? Please... Like I said, apple is not new to hyping products up to insane levels and then dealing with the launch... you are out of your mind if you think they couldn't have prevented this if they really wanted to- but the truth is, just like the resellers you hate they are in it to PROFIT. Waiting to launch until they had enough stock on-hand to deal with demand would have given the competition some extra room (like the wifi only xoom coming out soon), and setting up stupid rules about how you can pay etc would have discouraged some people from buying (plus they caught flack for trying to do it in the past).
The funny thing is that you somehow still think I have a problem with people wanting iPads, when my argument clearly shows the opposite... I'm favoring the people who want them so bad that they're willing to pay way more for them- or stand in line early enough to get them. The people I'm criticizing are the idiots who don't realize that since they AREN'T one of those people they need to suck it up and deal with it instead of blaming others. The people like you who act like iPads are some sort of life necessity such that if a reseller buys one and raises the price, you poor souls have no choice but to pay up. Because waiting until the real market value of an iPad drops is just too much to bear
Oh well... if there's one nugget of truth we can take away from your comment it's that Apple is only going to make a "small profit" on iPads. It may be meager, but hopefully it will help their modest company keep chugging along.
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correction- people like me GET your argument, we just make fun of it because it's stupid. People comparing reselling ipads to your bottled water disaster scenario lol. So how are these people trying to buy ipads off of ebay any less "regular consumers" than the guy standing in line. And how is a price "criminal" if it doesn't break any law? Please... Like I said, apple is not new to hyping products up to insane levels and then dealing with the launch... you are out of your mind if you think they couldn't have prevented this if they really wanted to- but the truth is, just like the resellers you hate they are in it to PROFIT. Waiting to launch until they had enough stock on-hand to deal with demand would have given the competition some extra room (like the wifi only xoom coming out soon), and setting up stupid rules about how you can pay etc would have discouraged some people from buying (plus they caught flack for trying to do it in the past).
The funny thing is that you somehow still think I have a problem with people wanting iPads, when my argument clearly shows the opposite... I'm favoring the people who want them so bad that they're willing to pay way more for them- or stand in line early enough to get them. The people I'm criticizing are the idiots who don't realize that since they AREN'T one of those people they need to suck it up and deal with it instead of blaming others. The people like you who act like iPads are some sort of life necessity such that if a reseller buys one and raises the price, you poor souls have no choice but to pay up. Because waiting until the real market value of an iPad drops is just too much to bear
Oh well... if there's one nugget of truth we can take away from your comment it's that Apple is only going to make a "small profit" on iPads. It may be meager, but hopefully it will help their modest company keep chugging along.
Yes, small profit. Each iPad or iPhone nets a small profit, times millions, to add up to bigger profits. Besides, Apple isn't rich because of iPads. Its rich because of iTunes, which iPads help sell.
And I didn't have to pay up. I was able to get an iPad on launch day fairly easily at retail price. You know why? Because there weren't any scumbag scalpers trying to buy up all the inventory before I got there. But I guess having sympathy for people who wanted an iPad and couldn't get one because of the scalpers is a hilarious joke to you. Until of course it happens to you and you are denied something you want by nefarious practices of others. Then it probably won't be so hilarious.
dude you are too much lol. Resellers aren't the joke to me, it's people like you who make the purchase and sale of ipads into an issue of honor. That and your poor logic and bogus 'facts'. You are out of your mind if you think people in your line on launch day weren't reseling their ipads... You didn't get one because there were no resellers, you got one because it was launch day still and you were in line early enough! But sadly, you getting an iPad caused someone else not to get one. Feel bad about that? of course not.
I've been through plenty of launches for a product I really wanted, even waited in line overnight etc, and didn't get it- knowing the resale market was hot... And no, I never complained or thought anything was wrong with it then either. See the difference with me is, I understand that I'm not entitled to things regardless of how bad I want them. I can take responsibility for my choices like waiting in a long line already knowing I might be out of luck. I don't need to find others to blame when life doesn't work out the way I wanted. It's great, you should try it some time.
The main point that nobody has been able to deny yet, is that when resellers get their hands on an iPad, that iPad still ends up in the hands of someone who wants it. No matter what the configuration here, someone that wants it gets it, and someone that wants it doesn't... it's unavoidable. It's not about morality no matter how much people want it to be.
I've been through plenty of launches for a product I really wanted, even waited in line overnight etc, and didn't get it- knowing the resale market was hot... And no, I never complained or thought anything was wrong with it then either. See the difference with me is, I understand that I'm not entitled to things regardless of how bad I want them. I can take responsibility for my choices like waiting in a long line already knowing I might be out of luck. I don't need to find others to blame when life doesn't work out the way I wanted. It's great, you should try it some time.
The main point that nobody has been able to deny yet, is that when resellers get their hands on an iPad, that iPad still ends up in the hands of someone who wants it. No matter what the configuration here, someone that wants it gets it, and someone that wants it doesn't... it's unavoidable. It's not about morality no matter how much people want it to be.
mmhhmm....
I am still looking for an available iPad 2, but I will not pay a markup.
I'm just sitting back and watching the resellers market get more and more saturated so they are stuck with their stock or won't get enough profit to have made it worth their time.
Stay strong people......don't buy from a greedy reseller.
Karma will get 'em eventually.
I am still looking for an available iPad 2, but I will not pay a markup.
I'm just sitting back and watching the resellers market get more and more saturated so they are stuck with their stock or won't get enough profit to have made it worth their time.
Stay strong people......don't buy from a greedy reseller.
Karma will get 'em eventually.
Sitting on 2 16GB wifi black IPAD2's. My local Target has had them for 2 days no so I don't think I was taking them from anyone around here who really wanted them when I went in at lunch and bought them. I am probably going to resell 1 and might give one to my son though I am not sure about that. Looks like EBAYers are getting 700-750 for them meaning I can make about $150 per unit if I don't get burned. That would be bad an din my mind isn't immoral. I would do buy it now, PAYPAL only and no returns and hope I don't get burned by some dirtbag. I guess we'll see...
Thanks for the info, I was planning to go to Palisades Center this morning at 8:00 am. Instead, I drove the extra 25 minutes to the Tice's Corner Apple Store in Montvale, NJ. I arrived shortly after 8:30, there was a long line, but the store opened at 9:00 am and the line proceeded smoothly. I was towards the end of the line but I was able to get a 32gb black Verizon Ipad 2.
The only one worth selling are the at&t 3g version. It's the only one with a big profit margin. You can make 300 to 400 easy even with ebay fees.
You didn't complain, great. But other people want to, what's it to you?
And as I said, how you sweat the small things in life is how you deal with the larger ones too. The behavior of an individual is always a matter of honor, no matter how trivial.
But you think that 350 of 400 iPads from the last shipment to the Fifth Avenue store is going to end up with the wealthy in China instead of here, where they were meant for, and you are apparently fine with that. No person with a sense of fairness would find that acceptable.
And enough with the "entitlement" crap. Having the means to purchase something due to your own hard work, but being denied due to the pure selfishness and greed of others, is not being "entitled".
lol You aren't being denied by anyone but yourself. Get there sooner or pay more, your choice. I mean...THEY seem to have no problem getting them, and they are just people like everyone else...they don't have any magic powers or inside hookups at apple.
Dude... just hurry up and godwin the thread with a reseller/hitler comparison so we can pack this up and go home. We all know it's going there.
I do have to say I went out a couple of days and got in line. Each time I was either 1st, second or third. Most of the time never even got an Ipad but people offered to buy my spot in line. In fact last Friday and Thurs night made $800 and never even purchased an Ipad. So if idiots are willing to pay I will take there money with no problem. People still got there precious and I made around $1200 when all said and done.
The old saying early bird gets the worm. In this case get up earlier than the next guy or quit complaining.
The old saying early bird gets the worm. In this case get up earlier than the next guy or quit complaining.