So wrong in trying to snag a few iPads for quick resale?

[D1G1T4L]

I returned my 16gb Wifi iPad 2 this morning and the girl asked me if the people in line knew I was returning it? The other employee standing next to her said she wouldn't be surprised if this one woman in line would pay $1000 for it. They both stopped and looked at me as if I was to take me iPad back and sell it to someone in line. I just returned it and went on my way. If it wasn't used I would have sold it in a second for whatever the buyer was willing to pay.

 

[jvmxtra]

I put my work in the launch day and got one n love it.
I waited 3 hours on the line.
Did I like it waiting on the line 3 hours .... Of course not.
But we all knew it was gonna be like that....

Hey if you are lining up early to get n sell for profit it's not so different from people selling things for profit on eBay. In fact this is exactly like people going to work and getting paycheck.

People who went to college n getting job before who didn't go is same concept.

If you are putting your own time to make money there is nothing wrong with that.

 

[TheWheelMan]

I put my work in the launch day and got one n love it.
I waited 3 hours on the line.
Did I like it waiting on the line 3 hours .... Of course not.
But we all knew it was gonna be like that....

Hey if you are lining up early to get n sell for profit it's not so different from people selling things for profit on eBay. In fact this is exactly like people going to work and getting paycheck.

People who went to college n getting job before who didn't go is same concept.

If you are putting your own time to make money there is nothing wrong with that.

Seems more like someone going into the area where a disaster has taken place and selling people water for $25 a bottle, ie, screwing people in need over for a profit. Not as bas as the water scenario, but still not good.

 

[D1G1T4L]

Seems more like someone going into the area where a disaster has taken place and selling people water for $25 a bottle, ie, screwing people in need over for a profit. Not as bas as the water scenario, but still not good.

So we are now comparing selling iPads to people who didn't want to stand in line or wait as the same as selling water to people during a disaster?

 

[dbs0026]

Nothing at all wrong with buying extras and selling. Most people get pissed bc they didn't get in on the opportunity to make a profit. Selling an iPad on ebay is no big deal, selling iodide is different bc that's a persons life, I wouldn't try and make money off that.

Selling the iPad 2 is perfectly fine in my opinion, the 64gb ATT have sold for 1400 personally, all to people in the us at that. After selling 6 iPad 2 of different versions I ended up just shy of 1200, not to shabby for 3 guys spending 2 1/2 hours in line.

So while people will flame me and be pissed off, so be it. It's a free world and if you don't take advantage of the situation someone else will. I have more on order from Apple and will be going to the apple store again on Monday morning.

 

[grawk]

If you're returning it anyway, why not sell it for what you paid to someone waiting in line? Otherwise, apple loses money, and someone who wants one now doesn't get it. It's a win win for everyone involved.

 

[jvmxtra]

Agreed on selling to people on line.

Hey you know there are huge demand and that's why people are doing what they are doing.

Some people obviously paid attention in economic 101 on supply n demand.

Again I compare this to stock. So if you don't get it now you will never get it.

 

[Abyssgh0st]

I technically bought 5 on launch day (waited 13 hours), 1 for me, 1 for my Dad, and 3 for resale. I don't think there is a true moral aspect to this; it's an electronic device and I waited longer. I sold the three extra for a total of $390 in profit (2 international, and 1 in the US to someone foreign visiting). And used part of my tax return to cover the rest of my 16GB WiFi and smart cover. Did I do something wrong? In my eyes, no. I invested my time and efforts and made a profit to obtain a product I probably wouldn't have gotten in the first place.

 

[TheWheelMan]

So we are now comparing selling iPads to people who didn't want to stand in line or wait as the same as selling water to people during a disaster?

If someone is selling them for horribly exorbitant markups? Yes, although, I DID say not as bad as my example, but still taking advantage of people. Of course if people are stupid enough to pay so much for them, I guess they get what they pay for. Doesn't make the sellers who, in essence, are creating the shortage by buying up as many iPads as they can, any less innocent.

 

[grawk]

If someone is selling them for horribly exorbitant markups? Yes, although, I DID say not as bad as my example, but still taking advantage of people. Of course if people are stupid enough to pay so much for them, I guess they get what they pay for. Doesn't make the sellers who, in essence, are creating the shortage by buying up as many iPads as they can, any less innocent.

that's just silly. No one needs an ipad, and if they do, they can either pay the markup or wait in line. For many people, not waiting in line is worth a couple hundred dollars.

 

[jvmxtra]

If someone is selling them for horribly exorbitant markups? Yes, although, I DID say not as bad as my example, but still taking advantage of people. Of course if people are stupid enough to pay so much for them, I guess they get what they pay for. Doesn't make the sellers who, in essence, are creating the shortage by buying up as many iPads as they can, any less innocent.

Ok so you have a decent point.

I want one more iPad for me as first one is taken by my wife n never let go of.. Lol

But I am certainly not gonna sit here n complaint about it.
If I truly want one - won't complaint too much however as I just got 2011 mbp - I would go out there n do something about it.
It is what it is n I am just glad iOS device is as popular as it is n therefore drive even more developer to want to program for iOS... In the end app is what makes this whole thing go...

 

[TheWheelMan]

that's just silly. No one needs an ipad, and if they do, they can either pay the markup or wait in line. For many people, not waiting in line is worth a couple hundred dollars.

For some, obviously. But if the reason people are waiting in line and paying a couple of hundred more is because so many people are buying them up to create the demand in the first place, is it still fair then? What if people started doing that with food? Water? I mean, really, this is just an iPad, but that doesn't make it any more right, does it?

 

[grawk]

It's a non-essential item. If you don't think it's worth what the resellers are charging, just put your order in online and you'll eventually get one. If you MUST have it now, either wait in line yourself, or pay someone who did. It's not the people selling them here that are causing the shortage, it's the people shipping them overseas. Unfortunately for people who want them here, there is a huge demand world wide, and that causes shortages. It's as simple as economics gets. Comparing it to food isn't really a good comparison. That said, if someone tried to horde food, someone else would enter the market to under cut them. That's how markets work. There are many sources for food, therefore, it's harder for someone to corner the market.

 

[AHDuke99]

I have to say I almost bought the 16GB WiFi iPad at Target to resell it for a profit on eBay, but now that Paypal holds money for 21 days, I didn't want to put that charge on my debit card and not have access to it for three weeks. I could've used CRaigslist, but I'm sure it's flooded already.

 

[TSloper]

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There is absolutely nothing wrong with reselling for a profit. This is an item people want not need so if someone is willing to pay more then who is anyone else to judge? No one is being taken advantage of as no one is being forced to hand over their cash.

 

[christophermdia]

I hope everyone that is making a profit on these are claiming the profits on their taxes. I mean if you want to do the right thing and all. You are obligated by federal law to claim the markup since it is a fairly new item. This is why this country is so messed up financially, too many scammers on ebay!

 

[TSloper]

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This is America. If you have the means to buy 10 iPads & sell them for double what you paid, go for it. I don't care if you are in front of me in line. It just means that I should have gotten there before you.

Everyone crying & bitching about resellers are just bitter because they don't have their precious iPad yet. This is a free market. You can call it karma all you want, but if I found a way to basically get my iPad for free, or even make money on the deal, I would be all over it.

And for the record, I do not have an iPad yet, and I am not going to resell it. I just have zero hate for those that do.

I suspect that you and all the people who see nothing wrong with this have their "precious iPads" already. Its easy to play poker with other people's chips.

Other people's chips? Are you kidding me? How are those iPad's not yet sold other people's chips?

If you want one go online and order one or stand in line just like everyone else has done.

 

[TheWheelMan]

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There is absolutely nothing wrong with reselling for a profit...

If you and I are in line to get one and you're ahead of me, buy the last one in stock, and then look back at me and say "I bought this one just to sell. You can have it for just $200 more than I paid for it?" I would still consider it wrong, regardless of whether or not I'm stupid enough to pay it.

 

[TSloper]

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There is absolutely nothing wrong with reselling for a profit...

If you and I are in line to get one and you're ahead of me, buy the last one in stock, and then look back at me and say "I bought this one just to sell. You can have it for just $200 more than I paid for it?" I would still consider it wrong, regardless of whether or not I'm stupid enough to pay it.

What does it matter what I do with it? The fact is whether or not I resold it for a profit still doesn't change the fact that you were in the wrong spot in line and weren't going to get one anyways.

I bought 2 last weekend. Returned mine for crappy backlight bleed and sold the other on eBay to someone that was entirely willing to pay a premium to get it quickly. I was happy... She was happy.

 

[TheWheelMan]

What does it matter what I do with it? The fact is whether or not I resold it for a profit still doesn't change the fact that you were in the wrong spot in line and weren't going to get one anyways.

Yes, but you weren't in line to "get one," you were only in line so that you could screw over the person unlucky enough to be behind you. Sorry, but the ideal that you're free to make a buck off another person any way you can may be acceptable in our society in this case, but it makes it no less wrong.

 

[Josh125]

There is absolutely nothing wrong with it. There is obviously a market for them and likely are people that value their time more than say a hundred or two hundred dollar mark up, which let's be honest isn't much.

Everyone knows the game and has a fair shot, sans NYC. Get there at an obscene hour in the morning and wait. To begrudge someone for doing what "you" can't or won't is just silly IMO.

 

[Rumanji]

There is absolutely nothing wrong with it. There is obviously a market for them and likely are people that value their time more than say a hundred or two hundred dollar mark up, which let's be honest isn't much.

Everyone knows the game and has a fair shot, sans NYC. Get there at an obscene hour in the morning and wait. To begrudge someone for doing what "you" can't or won't is just silly IMO.

I absolutely agree 100%. This is capitalism at it's best and I love it!

Here is my take on it, I didn't want to double post.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1120975/

 

[Chip NoVaMac]

I absolutely agree 100%. This is capitalism at it's best and I love it!

Here is my take on it, I didn't want to double post.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1120975/

I work in the photo side of the tech industry, so I understood your other thread. The issue for Apple is that if they did build up inventories for a launch... the rumor mills would have given competitors a chance to steal some thunder from Apple.

I am surprised at how many responses to this thread at this point. My original thought was not to make the iPad2 a revenue stream, but a way to at least to make the final cash out of pocket to zero $ for two iPad2's after I sold my iPad.

My partner and I try to lead a good life, doing unto other as we would want for ourselves. Call it a moment of weakness or just frustration that I was feeling that why can't I get my slice of the pie...

At this point I (we) have not gone looking for any available iPad2's since last Monday... trying hard to respect his values here, as well as mine....

 

[Rafterman]

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Other people's chips? Are you kidding me? How are those iPad's not yet sold other people's chips?

If you want one go online and order one or stand in line just like everyone else has done.

I do have one. You know how I got it? Standing in line and having one there, available for me, without a bunch of scumbag scalpers buying up all the inventory, CUTTING in line, as has been reported often already.

 

[Rafterman]

I work in the photo side of the tech industry, so I understood your other thread. The issue for Apple is that if they did build up inventories for a launch... the rumor mills would have given competitors a chance to steal some thunder from Apple.

I am surprised at how many responses to this thread at this point. My original thought was not to make the iPad2 a revenue stream, but a way to at least to make the final cash out of pocket to zero $ for two iPad2's after I sold my iPad.

My partner and I try to lead a good life, doing unto other as we would want for ourselves. Call it a moment of weakness or just frustration that I was feeling that why can't I get my slice of the pie...

At this point I (we) have not gone looking for any available iPad2's since last Monday... trying hard to respect his values here, as well as mine....

I don't have a problem with one or two. Its not my bag personally, but I won't make a big deal out of it. Its the professional scalpers, using the same people every day to cut in line, buying up hundreds of iPads, that I have a problem with. That's what's hurting the availability.