I think it would be price as the main reason. Or shipping date. Or the fact the Iris Pro CPU is 100MHz slower.
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Some 15-Inch MacBook Pro Models Misreporting Intel Iris Pro 580 Graphics
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I think it would be price as the main reason. Or shipping date. Or the fact the Iris Pro CPU is 100MHz slower.
Precisely. They're vapor, as far as I can tell. Although there is a $55-$56 difference in tray price, I'm sure Apple would have gone with the Iris Pro chips if Intel could have delivered. In addition to getting 3x the EUs (72 vs 24), they also would have gotten the 128 MB eDRAM L4 cache which boosts CPU performance as well. Although the Iris Pro 580 and HD Graphics 530 chips have the same TDP (45W), I'm sure there is a difference in the dynamic range of their power consumption. While wider GPUs can use less power to do similar amounts of work as smaller ones, if you crank them up, they're going to use more juice.
I almost wonder if the batteries being smaller than their compartments in the 15-inch models is the result of not being able to get sufficient volume in the required bins of the 4+4e parts late in the design cycle. That, or some tragic bug that made them generally unsellable, like the first stepping of Thunderbolt 3 controllers which was also broken.
The dongle stupidity.
The blocky-screen 460 video adapters.
Slower TB3's on one side of the 13 inch model.
The fake speaker grills on the 13.
The skyrocketing price increases.
The 4-5 week delays in getting product (once again).
Speaker issues in bootcamp.
Incompatibility with many TB3/USB-C devices.
Last year's processor in this year's notebook.
- Just to name a few.
Maybe they can fix some of these with software, maybe they can't.
But how many more things need to pile on before people start admitting there is something rwong at Apple?
Actually no, it should be HD 530. Apple is selling the 6700HQ, 6820HQ and 6920HQ.
I really hate that people think of us this way. I, and many other people in my life, work hard for the things they want.
Really? That is one of the very few posts on the entire forum where someone is actually attempting to have a discussion instead of posting trash like "Courage" or mindlessly bashing Apple over the tiniest things (like this article!)
I personally welcome thoughtful discussions, despite the wishes of many around here.
That's not an N/A, it's a question mark. Nobody knows the 2 or 4 core boost clocks because they're not listed in ARK, and there are no shipping products with those CPUs. Intel paper launched them in Q1 2016, but where are they?
I guess that depends on how you plan to use it. Because as far as I can tell, the integrated graphics on last year's model are way faster.
Skylake Iris Pro GPUs boost performance by including 128MB of eDRAM and more execution units. But the new 15-inch models now use Intel HD 530 GPUs without any eDRAM, so all the heavy lifting has to be done by the dedicated GPUs.
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I just picked up a new 13" MacBook Pro with Touch Bar and I am absolutely in love with it. I bought the USB C adapters but so far haven't used them. I am sure I will when I get around to connecting my monitor but all-in-all, I am 100% satisfied with my new laptop. To be fair, I am not a power user (developer, creative professional, etc).
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Tim Cook should be fired, dude.
Don't get your knickers in a twist / panties in a wad.
It's fun to blame people with no agency for all the problems in the world. How many millennials are governors, presidents, congresspeople, or state representatives? How many run major corporations?
Stupid millennials raising taxes and hiring illegal immigrants and sending all our jobs overseas! Oh, they make me so mad! How dare they not be exactly the same as me!!!
Almost all of your bullet points are based on ignorance. 1, 3-6, 7 and 8 are all based on logical fallacies or a basic misunderstanding of the technology.
The problem is this is just another item in a steady stream of bugs that should have been caught, to go along with dropping features or configurations that a lot of people still wanted, as well as other questionable product and pricing decisions.
Balanced out by the people who come up with fantastic reasons to explain every issue, big or small.
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Totally.
Wait! What's this: https://www.amazon.com/Intel-NUC-Ki...8&qid=1479479551&sr=8-2&keywords=Intel+i7+nuc
Available today with amazon prime with iris pro 580 igpu which not only speeds up GPU operation on battery it also significantly speeds up the CPU courtesy of its edram cache that's missing in the 530. That's why haswell rmbp come close to the gimped 1 year old CPU that Apple is using.
BTW this has been available for 6 months - with no shortage - now AND Apple is one of the very few laptop manufacturers to use iris pro in their laptops. I think Apple was forced to use the weaker skylake due to their thinner chassis as likely the 580 variant doesn't do very well when restricted to run in a thin chassis..
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If you turn off "automatic graphics switching" in the Energy Saver System Preference, it will report correct info. I think it's just reporting what is active at the time.
So basically what you're saying is that to thousands of Internet commenters who have never used these new MacBook Pros, Apple didn't build exactly what they wanted, and they're too expensive.
What are the "steady stream of bugs" other than the video issue affecting a single 15-inch GPU configuration, and an audio issue when running Windows? Would you say the new MacBook Pros are more or less buggy than the Dell XPS 13 or Surface Pro on release?
Yeah... It's a software bug that has zero use impact, in a newly released product . It'll be quickly fixed. Shocker.
Still, it'll certainly be whine-worthy for many here.
Bolded is mine to point out that is the most apple kool-aid thing you could say. "Buy their additional warranty so they can fix the crap they didn't design well." Sounds like a "feature" to me. And don't even try to say "if you can afford a $2.4k machine, you can afford a few hundred dollar warranty".
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Don't excuse poor programming. This is coming from the company that couldn't fix their daylight savings bug over 2 years. And yet they were thinking about controlling my car? Yeah.. no thanks.