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I am nervous, especially considering that TSA agents aren't going to be able to differentiate. Even with the newer 2016+ MacBook Pro, I feel like I'll eventually be stopped as I travel quite a bit. NOT putting that in my checked bag. Maybe I'll print out a screenshot of the "you're not affected" page.

I had a feeling this was going to happen. The chassis is the same for 2012-2015. They’re not going to hold up the line while people open the lid and show them it’s not a 2015. And they certainly aren’t going to take anyone’s word for it!

I don’t see why you should have a problem with yours though. It’s clearly a different design.
 
I had a feeling this was going to happen. The chassis is the same for 2012-2015. They’re not going to hold up the line while people open the lid and show them it’s not a 2015. And they certainly aren’t going to take anyone’s word for it!

I don’t see why you should have a problem with yours though. It’s clearly a different design.
Any rMBP would look the same to the average person.
 
The problem with that logic is that not all laptops with a lithium ion battery have been recalled.

The airlines have been told to look out for a specific 15" macbook pro, but as someone that used to fly for a living I can tell you that most aren't going to entertain a passenger who says "mine has been fixed" or "this isn't affected". A blanket response is always the best response in these situations. Unfortunately that response hinders the customer a bit, but the safety of the other 200 souls on board is more important than three or four people that are inconvenienced by the policy.
Exactly. When someone mentions the inconvenience of not being able to take their laptop on the plane, the response would be "You know what's also inconvenient? A possible fire on the plane for all the OTHER passengers because you couldn't be inconvenienced." Crappy response, but a true response. The airlines did not cause the problem, they just have to deal with, in line with the safety of all the other travelers.
 
It’s a damn disaster no matter how you try to spin this. Yeah, is one model. But they all look alike and airlines aren’t going to take the time to figure out which model or year it is. This will be the cause of countless headaches and a DISASTROUS hit to brand image. Yeesh. And as far as Apple being a service / wearables company, LOL. That all hinges on iPhone. No Apple Watch success without iPhone. No iCloud success without iPhone. No Apple Music without iPhone etc. I don’t care where their revenue comes from, pretending like they aren’t an iPhone company is simply delusional. It’s still 48% of their revenue.
No one will remember this long term...you're overreacting about a 4 year old model. Much bigger deal if this were the 2019 MacBook. Even the Samsung incident that killed their flagship phone didn't hurt them long term. It cost them $1-2B.

What's hurting the phone companies is flagship phone saturation. None of them are selling as fast as they used to, particularly Samsung.

And wrong again. Services and wearables success absolutely does not hinge on people buying new iPhones in anything close to record numbers. It hinges on the active user base which just hit ANOTHER all time high of 1.4B. If services are entirely linked to growing iPhones sales, why have services grown despite iPhone sales declines? The answer is because people aren't switching from iOS and the Apple ecosystem.

Apple is doing over $100B/annually in non-iPhone business with services growing at 15-18% and wearables growing at 50%. Even iPad has resumed growth.

You're struggling with the incorrect assumption that iPhone decline means Apple decline. The numbers simply don't say that. As long as the active user base grows, the wearables/services story remains intact and it's what the numbers currently say. The stock would be back at all time highs (was over $220 after last earnings) if the trade war stuff uncertainty were removed. Apple's biggest risk right now is escalation with China, not anything related to demand for their products and services. Those numbers are great.

Apple's stock didn't even react to the news about MacBook on airlines...no one cares.
 
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No one will remember this long term...you're overreacting. Even the Samsung incident that killed their flagship phone didn't hurt them long term. It cost them $1-2B.

What's hurting the phone companies is flagship phone saturation. None of them are selling as fast as they used to, particularly Samsung.

And wrong again. Services and wearables success absolutely does not hinge on people buying new iPhones in anything close to record numbers. It hinges on the active user base which just hit ANOTHER all time high of 1.4B. If services are entirely linked to growing iPhones sales, why have services grown despite iPhone sales declines? The answer is because people aren't switching from iOS and the Apple ecosystem.

Apple is doing over $100B/annually in non-iPhone business with services growing at 15-18% and wearables growing at 50%. Even iPad has resumed growth.

You're struggling with the incorrect assumption that iPhone decline means Apple decline. The numbers simply don't say that. As long as the active user base grows, the wearables/services story remains intact and it's what the numbers currently say.

Apple's stock didn't even react to the news about MacBook on airlines...no one cares.

This is a very different situation from the Note 7. The 2015 15” is over 4 years old now and most love it. This is an inconvenience for sure but it won’t have the impact it would have had this happened back in 2015.
 
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Disaster. Absolute brand image disaster.

Tim Cook is the reason for decreased iPhone sales, NOT people not willing to upgrade.

Wake UP shareholders. Good lord. The guy is not CEO material.

That's a bit simplistic. Flagship phone sales are down period across all brands. The issue is old phones are more than fast enough and just how many cameras do you need crammed onto the back of your phone? My iPhone 7+ runs perfectly fine, screen is plenty big enough, the phone is thin and light enough.... why would I upgrade?

Has ZERO to do with Tim Cook, any innovation or lack thereof in the iPhone space. It's hard to imagine what technological feature could be added to a phone today that would differentiate it significantly enough from my years-old iPhone 7 to make me want or need to upgrade.

My wife's 10 year old white unibody Macbook runs macOS just fine. My iPhone 5s runs iOS just fine and works great for Apple Music streaming to my stereo. The 2019 iMac (which I have on order) is not significantly faster than the 2017 iMac (or 2015 for that matter).... Moore's Law is dead. Until we see a quantum (literally) leap in processing power and have the bandwidth AND applications to utilize the processing power available, there's NO reason to upgrade and therefore, sales suffer.
 
The man who oversaw Apple’s growth in market capitalization from $300B to $900B is “not CEO material”?

News to shareholders, I’m sure.

Impressive but in 8 years under Steve it went from about $2.5B to about $40B. For the same percentage in improvement. Apple would need to be worth $4.8T today under Tim Cook. Obviously TC is a bad CEO compared to SJ.:rolleyes:
 
That's a bit simplistic. Flagship phone sales are down period across all brands. The issue is old phones are more than fast enough and just how many cameras do you need crammed onto the back of your phone? My iPhone 7+ runs perfectly fine, screen is plenty big enough, the phone is thin and light enough.... why would I upgrade?

Has ZERO to do with Tim Cook, any innovation or lack thereof in the iPhone space. It's hard to imagine what technological feature could be added to a phone today that would differentiate it significantly enough from my years-old iPhone 7 to make me want or need to upgrade.

My wife's 10 year old white unibody Macbook runs macOS just fine. My iPhone 5s runs iOS just fine and works great for Apple Music streaming to my stereo. The 2019 iMac (which I have on order) is not significantly faster than the 2017 iMac (or 2015 for that matter).... Moore's Law is dead. Until we see a quantum (literally) leap in processing power and have the bandwidth AND applications to utilize the processing power available, there's NO reason to upgrade and therefore, sales suffer.
He's blinded by his hatred for Tim Cook.

A 2015 MacBook ban on flights is just fuel for the fire. Yes, it's not ideal, but it's not going to hurt Apple long term. I find it silly Airlines are not bothering to understand the scope and just banning all of them. Why not just ban all laptops and phones while you're at it?

iPhone saturation and flagship smartphone saturation in general is real.
 
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Any charged battery can cause a fire if shorted.

Incorrect. Another over-generalization: some batteries, like the common AA cells have too high of an internal resistance to result in significant heat. This was the case with a lot of old NiCd packs, which didn't have overcurrent or thermal protection like modern Li-Ions do.
 
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Cupertino... We have a problem! Quality control for the most expensive laptops of the planet! NOW!
 
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Disaster. Absolute brand image disaster.

Tim Cook is the reason for decreased iPhone sales, NOT people not willing to upgrade.

Wake UP shareholders. Good lord. The guy is not CEO material.

I would love to see some evidence for your claims.

Decreased iPhone sales are inevitable. There's no way they could keep up that insane pace.
 
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Cupertino... We have a problem! Quality control for the most expensive laptops of the planet! NOW!

Not Cupertino, but Taipei. The supply chain master has basically made them into Dells and HPs. Engineered by Compal, manufactured by Foxconn, with a battery pack by Simplo out of cells made by LG Chem...
 
Cupertino... We have a problem! Quality control for the most expensive laptops of the planet! NOW!

It’s actually more of an QC issue with the battery manufacturer. I would point out Apple’s negligence as waiting to act on a known issue. Seems to be a growing pattern from the worlds greatest CEO. :rolleyes:
 
Couldn't I just print out the page from Apple website showing that my MacBook Pro isn't affected? -

The serial number on Apple's check page would match the serial number on the bottom of my MacBook Pro.
 
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Then why don't AA cells have overcurrent protection? It can start a fire, i.e. you use a lighter, but the risk isn't significant.

Again, Li-Ion cells are a particular and severe hazard that is not present in most other types, save Li metal and some of the exotic chemistries like Li-SOCl2.

Going back to your original post, you might want to read your liked article carefully about suspected smuggled military weapons during the period of apartheid. You simply chose a bad example of a crash that predated commercial Li-Ion use.
 
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