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Some Apple Apps Will No Longer Receive Every New Feature Without a Subscription
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Good luck with this Apple. I really miss Steve Jobs, and looking forward to the retirement of Tim the bean counter. There are only two reasons anyone even uses the Apple bloatware to begin with.
1. It’s free, or used to be.
2. MS Office is missing features on the mobile and Apple platforms.
I predict a sharp drop in people using these apps.
1. It’s free, or used to be.
2. MS Office is missing features on the mobile and Apple platforms.
I predict a sharp drop in people using these apps.
Agreed.
It feels like one day folks are going to poke their heads up and realize Apple became no different than any of the others.
Did people forget iWork and iLife? Lol we used to pay for all those software: iMovie, Keynote, GarageBand, etc. so I guess it makes sense. and Final Cut has been such a steal for people that bought it 10-5 years ago, I don't think any other professional software has had one reasonable one-time payment and forever years of free updates lol
I need Microslop Office (non-subscription copy) for work but had been planning to switch to iWork for personal stuff in the run-up to my retirement in a couple of years. The potential issue you mention is probably enough to convince me to stay with Office.
As mentioned yesterday, I've put off getting a new iPhone and Mac Mini because I don't want to upgrade to Liquid Glass and I'm not the only one, so the new OS is actually costing Apple hardware sales. Now this announcement will discourage users like me from switching to iWork. See a pattern developing here, Cupertino?
Apple under Steve Jobs used to charge for iWork, iLife, MobileMe and OS X updates.
At the risk of sound like an old man yelling at clouds, someone in their 20's should absolutely be able to create a document or an email by themselves, especially since publicly available LLMs are only a few years old. This makes me very sad for our future.
Oh, Apple. What is happening to this once beloved 'Think Different' company.
Abolish software subscriptions. I will only buy apps if there is a one time purchase with a reasonable point upgrade path at no additional cost. I am happy to pay for a totally new version with added features, if I want them. I don't rent my music either. We are moving towards not owning anything. Steady revenue streams should be earned by putting out amazing products that people want to buy, not guaranteed by forcing a monthly payment, and for what?
Some of these developers aren't as amazing as they think they are. Pushing out rubbish and or lazy features to appear current, relevant and to warrant the monthly or yearly payments is not it either. Some developers (MoneyWell) don't even rollout out new features, their rationale for moving towards a subscription was to 'keep the developers paid', so pay us $50 a year to allow syncing even though direct-downloads (from major banks) has been broken for years, and with no significant (or any) updates for just as long. And this is just one example.
Abolish software subscriptions. I will only buy apps if there is a one time purchase with a reasonable point upgrade path at no additional cost. I am happy to pay for a totally new version with added features, if I want them. I don't rent my music either. We are moving towards not owning anything. Steady revenue streams should be earned by putting out amazing products that people want to buy, not guaranteed by forcing a monthly payment, and for what?
Some of these developers aren't as amazing as they think they are. Pushing out rubbish and or lazy features to appear current, relevant and to warrant the monthly or yearly payments is not it either. Some developers (MoneyWell) don't even rollout out new features, their rationale for moving towards a subscription was to 'keep the developers paid', so pay us $50 a year to allow syncing even though direct-downloads (from major banks) has been broken for years, and with no significant (or any) updates for just as long. And this is just one example.
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Everyone should at least download Google Docs, Sheets, and Slides just to spike the App store numbers and show Apple that there are alternatives.
Fascinating move. Especially with regards to FCP... As if people needed more of a reason to move to Davinci Resolve...
Honestly, this subscription crap is driving me nuts. It's utterly awful.
Honestly, this subscription crap is driving me nuts. It's utterly awful.
DaVinci Resolve, Affinity, PDFGear.
I think it's a psychological thing: I expect to be nudged to use the "pro"* version very often, "why don't you upgrade and get the best features?".
*Except that Pages and Numbers are too way behind even LibreOffice, to really become worth a subscription any time soon. At which point I'd rather use a suite which at least allows me to share documents with everybody, while being feature-rich.
Also, the scheme is very predatory: if you consider Logic Pro and Final Cut Pro alone, maybe the subscription is a good value for the money, but I'm not a musician nor a film-maker so I would be paying for apps, no matter how good, which I'd never use.
Of course Apple could let pick and choose, with much lower prices for individual apps, instead of just selling the entire bundle. But they don't. How would you feel if iCloud, Music, TV+, Fitness+, News+ etc. were sold all together and only together? And there's no certainty that all the apps will receive the same attention.
But your current software did not stop working if you missed the payment, did it?
Well I was hoping to get a new Apple computer this or next year just for video editing.
I guess I just saved a ton of money which I will put for the PC (including editing exclusively on it) or other expenses.
I will never pay subscriptions for software. Ever.
I guess I just saved a ton of money which I will put for the PC (including editing exclusively on it) or other expenses.
I will never pay subscriptions for software. Ever.
I get your point, but in defense of these young people, they all can create documents and emails on their own. They simply find it faster and more efficient to use AI to facilitate the creation.
I was talking to another young person (Stanford grad in comp science), and he finds AI extremely useful in his profession. Drastically improves his productivity. So, whether you are creating code or documents, I think AI is here to stay.
Us old timers might not like it, but I don’t think there is any going back. Again, just my opinion.
If you actually read Apple's press release, despite LPX being included in the creator studio app group and subscription, all the new features are still available to one-time-purchasers. For now, at least...
In the past you paid for soft like macos, iwork or ilife but you got beautiful physical boxes with discs, color manuals and software that worked from moment one. You always get excited and never disappointed. Your were happy paying for them. Now when you install a new os for a machine that cost thousands, you have to suffer for 3 or 4 months before they are useable and then next year, the nightmare begins again. If I had paid por macos tahoe I would have killed myself (suffering it, I know what I'm talking about)