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Some Apple Apps Will No Longer Receive Every New Feature Without a Subscription

so finally subscriptions arrived and yet still no Aperture follow up (already own standalone FCP and Photomator / Pixelmator… very little use for iWork due to work M365)

My wallet stays in my pocket Timmy
 
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As someone who purchased FCPx, Motion, and Compressor over a decade ago, and never paid another penny since....I am still greatly pissed off at this. It just means $99 a month years down the road. Just as Adobe did.
 
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con2apple said:
Firstly, there is no official definition of "pro“.

Secondly, why should Apple care how users do things if they don't want to pay?

Apple is a company.
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I'm not talking about paying and didn't even mention that, I'm talking about sunsetting iMovie.

Even if the pay, FCP is not an amateur app. I open it and immediately overwhelmed and don't know where to start. iMovie can be picked up in minutes.

I don't know anything about Garageband and never used it, but I think iMovie will stick around as the home users app.
 
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See how long we can use older versions of these apps?

edit. Ok, so it's the AI verson of these apps rhat are subs. - not the basic versions.
 
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RevTEG said:
The new numbers icon looks like it’s flipping people off. I can’t unsee it now. 🥴
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LOL. It’s one of those cases when you wonder whether a mischievous graphics designer knew exactly what they were doing and somehow managed to get their design through management review without anyone else noticing.
 
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I really don't understand this universal push for subscription everything. I understand with smaller companies who really need cashflow, but not Apple. Do they not realize that most people can't pay $20/mnth on the 10, 20, 30+ services they apparently "need"? It seems super anti-customer, to me. Miltonian capitalism taken to its ultimate end of maximizing profit by keeping customers eternally indebted for a product they'll never own. Yes, software is always licensed, not owned, but revoking a license is extremely rare and a lot different than losing a subscription because you have a bad year.
 
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Slightly OT, but does anyone know what made Jim Dalrymple sour so much on Apple? He barely posts on social media, but when he does, as he did this morning about Apple and this creator bundle, it's just nonstop negativity. And it's nothing of substance either, just the kind of stuff you'd see from a pointless fanboy argument. You don't have to simp for a company, but this guy is absolutely miserable, as if Tim Cook suddenly stopped inviting him over for Sunday supper.
 
Falco McGregor said:
Slightly OT, but does anyone know what made Jim Dalrymple sour so much on Apple? He barely posts on social media, but when he does, as he did this morning about Apple and this creator bundle, it's just nonstop negativity. And it's nothing of substance either, just the kind of stuff you'd see from a pointless fanboy argument. You don't have to simp for a company, but this guy is absolutely miserable, as if Tim Cook suddenly stopped inviting him over for Sunday supper.
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Maybe he got a whiff of this steaming pile of greed (sorry I mean app creator studio or whatever this is called) early. It has certainly soured me on Apple.
 
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Important nuance being missed in some of the knee-jerk reactions: the aspects which won't be available without a subscription are solely "intelligent features" (highly likely to be Apple Intelligence -based tools) and "premium content" (makes me think of clip art packs…) – neither of which sound like basic/essential functionality, and sound very much like premium additions which make things easier or nicer.
 
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orbital~debris said:
Important nuance being missed in some of the knee-jerk reactions: the aspects which won't be available without a subscription are solely "intelligent features" (highly likely to be Apple Intelligence -based tools) and "premium content" (makes me think of clip art packs…) – neither of which sound like basic/essential functionality, and sound very much like premium additions which make things easier or nicer.
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It's the camels nose.

Apple is all in on Services revenue.
They won't stop with this move.
 
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So, going forward, will you not get a free version of iWork, iMovie, Freeform, and Garage Band when you purchase a new Mac, iPad, or iPhone? I wonder what that will do to hardware sales? Apple might be stepping over dollars to pick-up dimes.

If they do provide free versions, Apple will need to do periodic bug and security fixes. Plus, at least some modest feature improvements, and it is going to need at least some AI integration or it will be completely outdated in a few years.

As a reference point, of my three adult children and three nieces/nephews (all in late 20s), 100% use AI for at least some portion of their document preparation and emails. There is no getting around it. In a few years, a productivity suite without at least some basic AI integration will be pretty much useless.
 
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Mainsail said:
So, going forward, will you not get a free version of iWork, iMovie, Freeform, and Garage Band when you purchase a new Mac, iPad, or iPhone? I wonder what that will do to hardware sales? Apple might be stepping over dollars to pick-up dimes.
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You'll get the free version, but nagged to upgrade to the intelligent features, I guess?

Sorry Apple, but

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We don't use any of the 'creator' tools in this silly subscription (except the old standbys) but if I read this correctly if I don't sign up for a subscription I won't be burdened by more silly AI BS crammed into my Pages, Numbers or Keynote.

Win-win!
 
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MacRumors said:
And while the Keynote, Numbers, Pages, and Freeform apps never cost money, some new features will now be locked behind a subscription.
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While Freeform was always free, I distinctly remember buying iWork as boxed software for my mac and paying for them every couple of years, and then even buying for them on the App Store for my iPad .
 
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While Freeform was always free, I distinctly remember buying iWork as boxed software for my mac and paying for them every couple of years, and then even buying for them on the App Store for my iPad .
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They went free for everyone in 2017.

dguisinger said:
So
does this mean they are actually going to make useful updates? It feels like they have abandoned all these products anyways
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No, it just means they will nag you.
 
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