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Some Apple Watch Users Experiencing 'Sticky' Digital Crown, Apple Suggests Water Rinse to Fix
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26 posts and we're not yet blaming the user? Com'on guys, where's:
"Sweaty-armed people shouldn't wear one" or "they should better manage their sweat", etc.
"Why would someone buy this piece of treasure and then sweat on it? People are just so stupid."
Etc.
...and the 2 most popular comebacks (with "_________gate")...
"This never happens to me"/"Mine is working perfectly" (implying that this isn't actually happening to anyone else). Maybe the "hundreds of thousands" or "million sold" argument where "...and barely a handful of people are having a problem" also marginalizes the problem as if it's not actually happening... or those reporting it are liars, Samsung trolls, etc.
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"You're wearing it wrong"
"Sweaty-armed people shouldn't wear one" or "they should better manage their sweat", etc.
"Why would someone buy this piece of treasure and then sweat on it? People are just so stupid."
Etc.
...and the 2 most popular comebacks (with "_________gate")...
"This never happens to me"/"Mine is working perfectly" (implying that this isn't actually happening to anyone else). Maybe the "hundreds of thousands" or "million sold" argument where "...and barely a handful of people are having a problem" also marginalizes the problem as if it's not actually happening... or those reporting it are liars, Samsung trolls, etc.
and
"You're wearing it wrong"
The real problem is the very bad design of the totally hyped 
watch! Any engineer will agree that moving parts in any machine do wear out and will eventually break first – it's that simple!
I don't understand why Apple, namely Ive, decided to go with a physical crown, while we have touch technology almost everywhere nowdays. The next design iteration should get rig of any moving interface parts = problem(s) solved.
watch! Any engineer will agree that moving parts in any machine do wear out and will eventually break first – it's that simple!I don't understand why Apple, namely Ive, decided to go with a physical crown, while we have touch technology almost everywhere nowdays. The next design iteration should get rig of any moving interface parts = problem(s) solved.
Next job listing will be for someone to spend al day eating doritos whilst testing equipment under 'real-world' usage conditions!
I wonder how good the o rings are around the crown stem...
To my mind, rotating and plunging the crown while running it under water is like an invitation for some of that water to migrate across the seal and foul the optical encoder at the inner end of the crown stem.
To my mind, rotating and plunging the crown while running it under water is like an invitation for some of that water to migrate across the seal and foul the optical encoder at the inner end of the crown stem.
Jony Ive might have to eat his words: "Swiss watchmakers are ********** "
Wonder what the refurb price on that $20K+ "Watch Edition" will be, after sweaty wrist returns.
Wonder what the refurb price on that $20K+ "Watch Edition" will be, after sweaty wrist returns.
How many hundreds of years have we had watches that you had to wind up or set the time with a rotating stem similar to the crown on the Apple watch?
Weird that Apple could find a way to make something that's been tested over time and ages, suddenly failure prone. In my entire life, none of my old standard watches had the stem become difficult to turn.
Now Apple has devised a way for reliable ancient methods to fail in a week or two?
Very sad.
Weird that Apple could find a way to make something that's been tested over time and ages, suddenly failure prone. In my entire life, none of my old standard watches had the stem become difficult to turn.
Now Apple has devised a way for reliable ancient methods to fail in a week or two?
Very sad.
I'm not so sure. Let me make a hypothetical suggestion:-
Let's say Apple had 10,000 watches out in the real world on sample - not test, there's no way they hired 10,000 professional testers.
Say 0.3% of the users (30) experience a sticky crown but maybe 10 bother reporting it because they think it's not worth reporting. The people recording the complaints just put that down to bad samples. Maybe all 30 of them note it to Apple but what they don't do is jump on the Internet and make a complaint. Maybe Apple believes that it's expected behaviour - watches will get dirty and this is the first watch (that I'm aware of at least) where the wearer will use the crown for anything other than (maybe) a daily winding or occasional date re-setting and will not GAS whether it's tad sticky or not.
OK we're now in a place where there's say 2M watches out in the wild and say the same 0.3% have this issue, so that's 60,000 people. Say 10% of them are cross enough to write it up on the Internet, that's 6000 complaints. All of a sudden every tech news site has a story - but it's still only 0.3% of total units. And it still may be expected behaviour.
Apple PR/Marketing people are having to work overtime in post Jobs Apple. A lot of apologetics in the MacRumors forum. Within two minutes of a negative post Apple PR reps are quick to try and quell any criticism.
No amount of apologetics can hide the fact that post Jobs products have largely been a disappointment: Apple Watch, 12" Macbook, soldered memory, downgrade product updates, shell-game pricing schemes, buggy software, etc. Too bad Steve is gone.
No amount of apologetics can hide the fact that post Jobs products have largely been a disappointment: Apple Watch, 12" Macbook, soldered memory, downgrade product updates, shell-game pricing schemes, buggy software, etc. Too bad Steve is gone.
Depends on how witty people are. For example tattoogate and digital-crown-gate are braindead responses. Watergate was not bad. Gate-gate was a winner.
And yet you're still posting on an Apple forum even though apparently nothing Apple does makes you happy.
Steve's not coming back, so I sure hope you find some other products that make you happy.
It seems easy for the crown to collect fibers as wool or cotton for example, and then good luck with water to clean this.
Crown on watches are usually fixed and can't rotate unless pulled-off (position allowing cleaning, too). This of course wouldn't work with the Apple Watch.
Well moving parts break and get compromised; a watch usually is either a jewel taken care of, or a day-to-day solid object worn in every situations.
I wonder about the result of riding a giant Bentley in a crowded Newcastle suburb every day to bring the kids to school, go to the supermarket and go to work.
Crown on watches are usually fixed and can't rotate unless pulled-off (position allowing cleaning, too). This of course wouldn't work with the Apple Watch.
Well moving parts break and get compromised; a watch usually is either a jewel taken care of, or a day-to-day solid object worn in every situations.
I wonder about the result of riding a giant Bentley in a crowded Newcastle suburb every day to bring the kids to school, go to the supermarket and go to work.
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To be honest, I don't think it's a bad thing to feature the first few issues that a certain amount of users run into with a new product, no matter who is (not) to blame.
And he's not alone. The divide here is between new/recent Apple advocates and long-time Apple users. Many of the latter liked Apple better when it was the underdog than the 800-pound gorilla in the room. It's kind of a generational gap thing.
They should have used the iPod click wheel Oh that's right Tim Cook put those manufacturers out of business...
Oh that's right Tim Cook put those manufacturers out of business...The Digital Crown is being hailed (by Apple) as one of the next great user interfaces. It should not experience a simple problem of "dirt or grit" getting stuck underneath of it. That's a design flaw, no matter how elegant it may be.
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Has anyone reported arm hair getting stuck in the Digital Crown yet?
Apple should have never made a watch. The thing is clunky, oversized, and unnecessary when you have a smartphone. The should have just improved the already existing iPod Nano 6th gen by making it thinner with more ram and bluetooth.