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How many hundreds of years have we had watches that you had to wind up or set the time with a rotating stem similar to the crown on the Apple watch?

Weird that Apple could find a way to make something that's been tested over time and ages, suddenly failure prone. In my entire life, none of my old standard watches had the stem become difficult to turn.

Now Apple has devised a way for reliable ancient methods to fail in a week or two?

Very sad.

Slight difference - you hardly touch the crown on a traditional watch. Maybe to wind it in the morning or change time when change time zones or if you left it in a draw and it needs to be wound up.

The digital crown is being used multiple times per day.

Apple haven't taken something that has worked for hundreds of years and made it fail.
 
Stop apologizing for every fault Apple has made since his death.
He did rescue the company from the brink, and as such he was brilliant. No God, but we took the minor in-between flaws with the monumental successes during his reign.

Yes because my old iPhone 4 not being able to call people was a minor flaw ... As well as the sleep/wake button getting stuck ... And the dock connector breaking... About 5 of them ... Between three iPhone replacements.
I'm not saying the he wasn't brilliant. He was. I'm saying the Apple had its same amount of flaws before as they do now.
The problem is that some people in this thread thought of him being so perfect that absolutely nothing went wrong during that time. But it did.
 
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Under Jobs, we had terrible bugs in OS X 10.3 - 10.6.6, failed MobileMe, antenna issues with iPhone 4, and iOS 2 bugs.

No amount of apologetics can hide the fact that post Jobs products have largely been a disappointment: Apple Watch, 12" Macbook, soldered memory, downgrade product updates, shell-game pricing schemes, buggy software, etc. Too bad Steve is gone.

You think these are even close to the same? Under Jobs we never saw such an increasing number of unhappy, disappointed, and frustrated customers as we see under Cook.
 
I think there are enough data points now to argue the product was rushed to market by a year or so. The question is why?

Because the product has been in development for atlaest 2 or 3 years now. Apple can't just keep dumping R&D money into the product.

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Yes because my old iPhone 4 not being able to call people was a minor flaw ...

Well Steve gave us free cases.
 
It's residual NaCl Crystals from evaporating perspiration. Only highly polar solvents like water dissolve NaCl well. I'm curious if the Taptic Oscillator could be drawing in anything on an Ionic Level? :apple:
 
Better question would be why would you think someone has to clean a watch after exercising? It's not like that's a normal proposition for a watch. Wiping sweat off the back, sure, but cleaning a watch after every exercise session? Nothing about that says reasonable expectation.

By clean, I just mean run water over it and dry it with a towel. Any electronic device I use when I'm dirty or sweaty gets at least that kind of cleaning. I don't want dried up sweat all over expensive electronics.

Did I say 2 minutes? Sorry, actually it's within 6 minutes.

Oh, so anybody that dares to have a different opinion than you is an Apple PR rep?

I guess that makes you a Samsung PR rep.

And he's not alone. The divide here is between new/recent Apple advocates and long-time Apple users. Many of the latter liked Apple better when it was the underdog than the 800-pound gorilla in the room. It's kind of a generational gap thing.

I understand, but the "old Apple" is never coming back. Ever. Those days are long gone, and it seems like the long-time Apple users who are currently unsatisfied with Apple might need to move on.
 
Stop apologizing for every fault Apple has made since his death.
He did rescue the company from the brink, and as such he was brilliant. No God, but we took the minor in-between flaws with the monumental successes during his reign.

Just like you're apologizing for every fault made by Steve.

-Week-long outages and data loss for MobileMe (something people were paying for, unlike iCloud)
-OS X updates that killed networking on Macs (10.2.8)
-Snow Leopard wiping out user folders
-iPhone 4 power adapter prongs breaking off

These were not "minor in-between flaws."

Yes, he was brilliant. But Apple is doing better than ever – not worse.

Lest we forget, people here and elsewhere decried the iPad even more vocally than they are the Watch.
 
Brings a whole new meaning to "wearing the crown".

Give it a jet wash, stop messing about - that'll sort it, and if it doesn't, give it a good douse with some "WD-40" :p
 
You think these are even close to the same? Under Jobs we never saw such an increasing number of unhappy, disappointed, and frustrated customers as we see under Cook.

69% of the people in this thread weren't even active on MR. I complained about my stuff breaking more during the Jobs days than I did now. I joined MR because I couldn't stand Tiger and Leopard on my iMac G4. It was taken to the Apple Store so often I just left it in the back of the car and that last time I came back home. It's a sexy coat hanger now.

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I can imagine a better solution for that. You don't have to punch zoom, you just swipe on the side.

You want to swipe through several app screens on a Apple Watch?
 
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When so many on this forum seem to derive such enjoyment from complaining about Apple and its products, what better way to make them happy? Think of it as a service to its members.

Totally devoid of content or substance, of course, but the children do seem to love it so. ;)

Apparently today's high school is really boring...
 
This issue would be a deal breaker...

As the crown is the main interface for much of the watch functionalities.. if it breaks after a few days how is the watch even going to last a year or longer? :mad::mad::mad:
 
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