Some iPhone XS and XS Max Units Won't Start Charging While Screen is Turned Off [Fix Coming in iOS 12.1]

[AppleFan910]

LoL when you were saying: What else has Apple released that is half baked??? And not your anti Apple opinion, but FACT what did you imply? That he can't even give one objective example because Apple is perfect? The he is just biased and absolutely nothing else? That apple can't be criticized in any way?

And actually the iphone 6 is a great example: problematic design that made the phone more susceptible to bends(which was fixed with the 6s), caused other problems like Touch Disease and forced Apple to throttle the phone's performance because of subpar batteries.

Because when you see the same folks coming to post their wun wun wun, it’s not because they OWN an iPhone, they just thrive on downing Apple any chance they get. I never said Apple was perfect, and if you saw my original reply to Dave, I gave my opinion on certain things where Apple should’ve done better.

 

[teknikal90]

Not really. I also don't have an LG microwave. But if I did, I doubt I'd go to a forum about it.

So apple isn’t just another company even to yourself.
It’s a company that has fans like yourself, to a level that would draw people to even join an online forum to talk about its products.

 

[Michael Goff]

So apple isn’t just another company even to yourself.
It’s a company that has fans like yourself, to a level that would draw people to even join an online forum to talk about its products.

No, I just find smartphones and other computers to be more interesting than microwaves. It is just another company to me.

 

[ROGmaster]

Because when you see the same folks coming to post their wun wun wun, it’s not because they OWN an iPhone, they just thrive on downing Apple any chance they get. I never said Apple was perfect, and if you saw my original reply to Dave, I gave my opinion on certain things where Apple should’ve done better.

Oh you poor soul.
Those people are just mean.

 

[yansun]

The point he was trying to make is that an apparently "superior" LCD screen is still only able to run HD videos (720p) which if I remember correctly the iPhone 4 did too, so yeah, he was spot on, whether you like it or not, you gotta ask what's so bloody fancy about that "best ever LCD in an iPhone" if I'd still end up watching YT in 720p.

Who needs 1080p on a smartphone anyway? If you do, you're using it wrong!

 

[FFR]

The point he was trying to make is that an apparently "superior" LCD screen is still only able to run HD videos (720p) which if I remember correctly the iPhone 4 did too, so yeah, he was spot on, whether you like it or not, you gotta ask what's so bloody fancy about that "best ever LCD in an iPhone" if I'd still end up watching YT in 720p.

The point he was trying to make?
He was spot on?

Guess you don’t know the difference between ppi and resolution either. Here is a hint; they are not the same.


I don’t need to like inaccurate claims.
I have two iPhone X’s max, I’m good.



Ps: he also claimed it couldn’t play HD.
It’s ok inaccuracies in statements made reflect poorly on him and his subscriber base, neither apparently knows the difference.

 

[Klyster]

A bit late but lol....

 

[Abazigal]

A bit late but lol....

That video was cringey, even by his normal standards. It’s clear that he bought an iPhone just so he could crap all over it and was never going to evaluate it in any objective manner. And he was simply trying too hard to be overly dramatic. Even funnier was him going on a tirade over how the iPhone had a charging issue, even as the charging kicked in shortly after he started (and he didn’t notice and just went on and on).

Looks like these you tubers have decided on the direction they want to go. Can’t blame them. There’s clearly a huge market of viewers actively seeking out anti-Apple content and they have made their choice.

Oh well, a sale is a sale for Apple, I guess.

 

[Klyster]

That video was cringey, even by his normal standards. It’s clear that he bought an iPhone just so he could crap all over it and was never going to evaluate it in any objective manner. And he was simply trying too hard to be overly dramatic. Even funnier was him going on a tirade over how the iPhone had a charging issue, even as the charging kicked in shortly after he started (and he didn’t notice and just went on and on).

Looks like these you tubers have decided on the direction they want to go. Can’t blame them. There’s clearly a huge market of viewers actively seeking out anti-Apple content and they have made their choice.

Oh well, a sale is a sale for Apple, I guess.

Louis was being pretty light-hearted there.. he's generally very scathing of Apples shoddy electrical engineering, he was never going to be objective, if you knew his "normal standards", I'm surprised you'd expect him to be.
I thought it was funny, not at all cringey but I'm not you, so........lol?

He makes enough money off bad Apple products, his channel isn't a huge revenue spinner.

 

[Abazigal]

Louis was being pretty light-hearted there.. he's generally very scathing of Apples shoddy electrical engineering, he was never going to be objective, if you knew his "normal standards", I'm surprised you'd expect him to be.
I thought it was funny, not at all cringey but I'm not you, so........lol?

He makes enough money off bad Apple products, his channel isn't a huge revenue spinner.

I believe his YouTube channel is more to advertise his business. It has certainly grown. I remember subscribing to it when it had about 200k subscribers and watching it balloon to just under half a million in a short span of time (it was around the time when he started pointing out flaws with Apple products, ending with a particularly brutal rebuke of TailosiveTech over the entire bendgate issue).

He even admits as much. He covers Apple products because that’s what draws in the views compared to say, Samsung products. And it’s clearly working.

He knows his stuff. That I don’t deny. However, I suspect that because it is literally his business to deal with faulty Apple products day in and day out, it naturally makes him very critical and negative towards them.

After all, what kind of impression are you going to develop with regards to the quality of Apple products when you do nothing but repair them day in and day out?

I have rewatched the video (actually saw it yesterday) and I am still not seeing the light-hearted element. He was coming across as simply trying to hard to act all exasperated and self-righteous and well, looking at the comments section, it clearly works in resonating with his subscriber base. That’s all I can say.

 

[ochawkeye]

The catch here is that at the time the video was released, iOS 12.1 beta had already been released, which reportedly fixed the charging issue.

So it wasn’t that Apple was not aware of the issue, and it wasn’t that Apple was never going to fix it.

But as always, it’s just easier to generate hysteria and controversy rather than get your facts right, because the latter actually requires more work and doesn’t always result in more views.

Yeah, no context, more than half was just bashing Apple, ignoring that fact that a fix had already been pushed up in 12.1 beta, it was less a discussion and more than just another outlet to vent at Apple for the heck of it.

Just to be clear, the fix for this was *not* included in the 12.1 beta that was out at the time of the video being posted. The fix was included in the second 12.1 beta that just dropped on 2 October. It's certainly possible that the squeakiness of the public on this one motivated the second beta release.

 

[Abazigal]

Just to be clear, the fix for this was *not* included in the 12.1 beta that was out at the time of the video being posted. The fix was included in the second 12.1 beta that just dropped on 2 October. It's certainly possible that the squeakiness of the public on this one motivated the second beta release.

https://www.theverge.com/2018/10/1/17924252/apple-iphone-xs-charging-issues-chargegate

That’s not what this article (which was written on 1 October, prior to the second beta) suggests.

Users experiencing the issues have come up with workarounds, including upgrading to iOS 12.1 beta, which apparently eliminates the problem entirely.

 

[ochawkeye]

https://www.theverge.com/2018/10/1/17924252/apple-iphone-xs-charging-issues-chargegate

That’s not what this article (which was written on 1 October, prior to the second beta) suggests.

Not sure why Apple would release a 12.1 Beta 2 that explicitly fixes an issue that was already fixed in a previous release.

 

[Abazigal]

Not sure why Apple would release a 12.1 Beta 2 that explicitly fixes an issue that was already fixed in a previous release.

Maybe it was more to draw attention to the fact that this patch does indeed fix said issue? You could accuse Apple of being overly secretive here, but it would seem they were in fact aware of the issue, and had likely already created a tentative fix even as the video was being made.

 

[Feenician]

Not sure why Apple would release a 12.1 Beta 2 that explicitly fixes an issue that was already fixed in a previous release.

They didn’t. There’s nothing in the release notes about it. In fact there’s nothing in the release notes at all (https://developer.apple.com/documentation/ios_release_notes/ios_12_1_beta_2_release_notes). The MR article was inaccurate. However, if you look at the thread for beta 1 you’ll see MR members determined it fixed the issue https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/ios-12-1-beta-1―-bug-fixes-changes-and-improvements.2139205/

Edit: It appears MR used Rene Richie as a source, without fact checking. https://www.macrumors.com/2018/10/02/ios-12-1-charging-bug-fix/

 

[sppunk]

Learned today my Xs has this issue (I use a wireless charger at home and decided to try a chord at work since I’m traveling tomorrow and not taking a wireless charger).

If I unlock the phone when it asks it charges. My question can I think lock it again and it keep charging? If not how on earth do you charge it overnight?

 

[ochawkeye]

They didn’t. There’s nothing in the release notes about it. In fact there’s nothing in the release notes at all (https://developer.apple.com/documentation/ios_release_notes/ios_12_1_beta_2_release_notes). The MR article was inaccurate. However, if you look at the thread for beta 1 you’ll see MR members determined it fixed the issue https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/ios-12-1-beta-1―-bug-fixes-changes-and-improvements.2139205/

Edit: It appears MR used Rene Richie as a source, without fact checking. https://www.macrumors.com/2018/10/02/ios-12-1-charging-bug-fix/

MR isn't the only place using Rene Richie as a source. What a muddy situation when a headline from Forbes reads "Apple 'Confirms' iPhones Have A Serious Problem" but then asks in the article "So why hasn’t Apple admitted this fault directly?"

(By the way, they also give credit to UnboxTherapy for the swift addressing of this by Apple)

 

[C DM]

MR isn't the one place using Rene Richie as a source. What a muddy situation when a headline from Forbes reads "Apple 'Confirms' iPhones Have A Serious Problem" but then asks in the article "So why hasn’t Apple admitted this fault directly?"

(By the way, they also give credit to UnboxTherapy for the swift addressing of this by Apple)

Unfortunately Forbes has gone down the path of a bunch of clickbait and cry wolf type of stuff when it comes to any Apple release basically.

 

[greytmom]

Hah. 20 pages for nothing.

Are you new?

 

[4tune8chance]

With anything man made there will be issues, and while everyone does their best to anticipate problems some will slip through. So the more important thing is to have a solid way of fixing the problem. IMO apple have such a system.

 

[2979382]

The point he was trying to make?
He was spot on?

Guess you don’t know the difference between ppi and resolution either. Here is a hint; they are not the same.


I don’t need to like inaccurate claims.
I have two iPhone X’s max, I’m good.



Ps: he also claimed it couldn’t play HD.
It’s ok inaccuracies in statements made reflect poorly on him and his subscriber base, neither apparently knows the difference.

Dude, no need to be a tool. We're having a dialogue here, not a cage-fight. Here's the facts: iPhone 4, 5, 6, XR, all have 326 PPI. Given the size of the XR, you gotta admit, it's underdelivering for 2018. The you have the resolution. The iPhone 6 (4 years ago) was the first able to run a HD video. 4 years later, the XR still only HD video? I mean, come on Apple. No matter how much of a fan I am, it still bothers me, because it's not a budget phone.

 

[Feenician]

iPhone 4, 5, 6, XR, all have 326 PPI. Given the size of the XR, you gotta admit, it's underdelivering for 2018

PPI doesn't need to change for larger physical dimensions. There isn't really a relationship, other than the slightly tenuous one that you may arguably hold a larger device a little further away (making PPI less important, not more).

 

[C DM]

Dude, no need to be a tool. We're having a dialogue here, not a cage-fight. Here's the facts: iPhone 4, 5, 6, XR, all have 326 PPI. Given the size of the XR, you gotta admit, it's underdelivering for 2018. The you have the resolution. The iPhone 6 (4 years ago) was the first able to run a HD video. 4 years later, the XR still only HD video? I mean, come on Apple. No matter how much of a fan I am, it still bothers me, because it's not a budget phone.

In Apple's lineup it's basically where a budget phone would be.

 

[2979382]

In Apple's lineup it's basically where a budget phone would be.

Oh, come on. The SE and the 5C are(were) budget devices.
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PPI doesn't need to change for larger physical dimensions. There isn't really a relationship, other than the slightly tenuous one that you may arguably hold a larger device a little further away (making PPI less important, not more).

For those who like pixel hunting it does. I am not claiming it's an annoying issue, I was merely defending Lew, because this is what he starts off with in his video: same PPI as the iPhone 4, which is true.

 

[Feenician]

same PPI as the iPhone 4, which is true.

It is true. Same PPI as the iPhone 8. Also true.

Here's what Ars Technica had to say about the iPhone 8 display. Note: no complaints about PPI

OLED might be the new wave, but the iPhone 7 had one of the best LCD displays available in a smartphone, and that still applies to the iPhone 8. While some smartphone manufacturers tested the waters with OLED as far back as a few years ago, Apple has focused on providing excellent color accuracy in its displays—something that OLED was not always very good at until more recently.

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Deep blacks, bright future—where OLED screens go from here
The new phones’ basic specifications are the same as those of the iPhone 7 and 7 Plus—they’re IPS screens with 1334×750 and 1920×1080 resolutions for the iPhone 8 and iPhone 8 Plus, respectively, along with 1400:1 and 1300:1 contrast ratios. Last year’s models brought the move to DCI-P3 for a wider color gamut. It was a noticeable improvement, and you still get that here. But there’s nothing dramatically different about this display as compared to the iPhone 7.

And The Verge. Note: no complaints about PPI

Apple’s added True Tone tech to the iPhone 8 display, which first appeared on the iPad Pro. I’ve always thought the iPhone LCD was the best overall display on the market in terms of color accuracy, and True Tone just makes it look better, by measuring ambient light with sensors on the front of the phone and adjusting color temperature on the fly. You won’t notice it working while it’s on, but if you obsessively click the button on and off under most indoor lighting you’ll see things warm up a little when it’s active.

Wired. Note: no complaints about PPI

The screen, enhanced with Apple's True Tone tech, adapts its white balance to whatever room you're in to keep whites looking white and colors looking vibrant. It also has a wider color gamut

Consumer Reports. Note: no complaints about PPI

Does the use of LCDs mean the iPhone 8 models are sub-par? Not at all: Testers gave these "smooth, crisp displays" excellent marks. The screens were bright, effective at minimizing reflective glare, and easy to read both inside and out.

One twist is that Apple added True Tone to the new phones, a technology that's already used on iPads. It automatically adjusts the display's white balance depending on the lighting conditions around you, with the goal of making colors look consistent. (Consumer Reports has found it useful on the iPad, depending on what you're doing.)

And I have never heard anyone IRL complain about the screen on an iPhone since retina was a thing. It's probably the 2nd best LCD mobile display (the best being the 400+ PPI Plus screens) or thereabouts. Total non-issue in the real world.