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Not a monolingual American by chance?

Quite a few people have to deal with Japanese businesses, based in Japan. Being on the West Coast, Apple thought it might be wise to do this.

actually i am fluent in 3 languages and can handle basic stuff in 2 more.

so no.... not monolingual by any stretch.

and no I am not american.

I don't need japanese and doubt that the majority of OS X users have a need for it. As I said... a few obviously do and its also a cool feature for japanese customers.

I don't understand why they need to bloat the dictionary.

you like to stereotype... do you?
 
... i should go about buying my new iMac with Leopard ? Sorry but i'm a tad confused by my first mac buying experience. I'm planning on buying a 24" 2.4GHz iMac but would like to up the RAM and harddrive, if i go into an Apple store on the 27th to buy this - can i have it configured with the extra RAM and memory there and then in the store to take away that day, or do i need to pre-order it or something ? Also if i decided it was easier or faster to buy what i want on-line do i need to wait until the 26th to make sure it's installed with Leopard ?

thanks for any words of wisdom you can offer.

I'll try to help you since nobody else has yet. Take this w/ a grain of salt as I will also be new to Mac very soon. I'm also wondering about what operating system would ship with a Mac if I ordered it on line from Apple before the 26th. BUT, I am fairly certain that Apple stores do not upgrade hard drives. They can upgrade RAM, but to get a bigger hard drive, I'm almost certain you have to order on line. At least that is the case with the Apple stores I have visited.
 
I could not agree more. Wikipedia is malware and not a feature,

It's a plugin...it can be removed. In fact, every dictionary within Dictionary is a plugin that can be removed or turned off.

edit: dang...it ISN'T a plugin. Not one that I can find. The normal dictionary plugins are in /Library/Dictionaries but I'm guessing since wikipedia isn't a local dictionary it couldn't get it's own plugin and the functionality had to be hardcoded into Dictionary. Ah well...you can turn it off at least.
 
love the features

There's so many features in Leopard I can't wait to use, and that will make my (and my families) life easier.

But I keep hearing conflicting information on how CS3 is running under 10.5, can anyone here shed some light on if Adobe and/or Apple has been able to get this resolved ?

Unfortunately if CS3 isn't running well in Leopard, I will have a leopard box sitting on my shelf for a little while.
 
Perhaps I overstated my point. I agree with what you are saying. It's just that Apple could push the UI in a whole new direction. It wouldn't replace the existing UI, but offer you a different way to interact with it that is superior for many tasks. This would be bold an innovative.

Vista can be configured to almost do this, while OS X can not. But consider what this does for PC venders. HP, for example, has a suite of apps that come with their new iMac knock off -- the Touchsmart PC. The Touchsmart apps work in full-screen mode and are activated by pressing a button on the computer. These apps right now are simplistic and not very useful, but HP could theoretically develop them into a full fledge suite of apps like iLife. You can boot your PC, press that button, and never even see the Vista UI. Add internet apps like Google Docs and a file browser, HP could essentially create an OS inside an OS. In other words, HP could offer their customers a completely unique user experiance even though they are using Windows.

This is what I think will happen with Windows and PC makers. Because Apple's iMac concept is so strong and successful, PC makers will have to start competing with Apple and this is the way they will do it, regardless of what Microsoft is doing or not doing. Browser technology and full-screen viewing can give PC venders a way of creating their own customized UI. Even Google could get into the action.

It's funny because I use Photoshop CS3* (in which you have the option to set the usual full-screen mode, the full-screen mode (with-menu-bar), the maximized-screen mode and the standard-screen mode). Even if I tried hard (and I did!), I just keep coming back to the usual standard-screen mode (ala Mac). And I work a lot in PS... So I guess, as mentioned above, it's really a matter of preferences! :)

But for some apps, it's something to think about!

* I know, CS2 and below versions also give you the option of most of these modes... :)
 
I'm interested to see how well (or if) Apple optimized Leopard for mult-core machines. My bet is it's significantly faster than Tiger on multi-core CPUs on average.
 
It's a plugin...it can be removed. In fact, every dictionary within Dictionary is a plugin that can be removed or turned off...

Good to know! But what I'd really like 'tho, is to *add* some more dictionaries (plugins), like the French and Spanish ones that I don't get because my system is set to English... Well, maybe in 10.6...:rolleyes:
 
That's a strange comment to make, because the same mentality that appreciates the value Apple brings to the marketplace should also recognize that encyclopedias are far and away a better choice than Wikipedia. Wikipedia is Dell/HP/Taiwan, and encyclopedias are Apple.

Each has their place, but it isn't the same place.

Oh, come on :p Do people seriously believe that?

Let me explain my mentality to you. I use what works best. I have extremely ecclectic interests, so I find traditional encyclopedias far too limiting.

For instance:
The Encyclopædia Britannica said:
The 2007 Macropædia has 699 in-depth articles, ranging in length from 2 to 310 pages and having references and named contributors. In contrast, the 2007 Micropædia has roughly 65,000 articles, the vast majority (about 97%) of which contain fewer than 750 words, no references, and no named contributors.

In contrast:
Wikipedia said:
The English-language Wikipedia currently contains 2,053,538 articles.
This number excludes redirects, discussion pages, image description pages, user profile pages, templates, help pages, portals, articles without links to other articles, and pages for Wikipedia administration.

So assuming that each Wikipedia article contains no more useful information than the usual Micropædia article, Wikipedia still has 31.2 times as many articles. In my personal experience, the Wikipedia articles I've read have been longer, more comprehensive, more meticulously-sourced (generally), and far more conservative (by which I mean avoiding speculation) than the books I've read for a given subject.

Of course, that doesn't go into accuracy -- but I suggest that useless or incorrect information in many fields is easy to discern. Vandalism almost never is of an intellectually-dishonest sort, but is more often performed by bored teenagers and quickly reverted. While I wouldn't build a nuclear reactor from Wikipedia instructions, I would not build one from Encyclopedia instructions either. As I mentioned above, I believe Wikipedia to be of higher quality than most if not all of the books I've read for a given subject. I don't believe myself to be reading the wrong books, either... even if you considered me personally ignorant or unable to find books, certainly my wife, a librarian with seven years experience working in science libraries would be able to.

Likening Wikipedia to a specific brand of computer would be futile; you could, however, liken it to Project Gutenberg, whereas a customary encyclopedia could be likened to the Great Books of the Western World (forgive me for linking to Wikipedia -- you have to register to read the article about it on Britannica's website); one has over 20,000 works and is completely free of cost. The other has sixty volumes and costs $1200.

Believing something is better just because it's expensive is utterly retarded.
 
I'll try to help you since nobody else has yet. Take this w/ a grain of salt as I will also be new to Mac very soon. I'm also wondering about what operating system would ship with a Mac if I ordered it on line from Apple before the 26th. BUT, I am fairly certain that Apple stores do not upgrade hard drives. They can upgrade RAM, but to get a bigger hard drive, I'm almost certain you have to order on line. At least that is the case with the Apple stores I have visited.


I did answer the question earlier and thank you for confirming the hard drive thing...i was only 99.9% sure. And to reiterate, you will almost certainly get a machine with tiger if you order before the 26th. You MAY get leopard after the 26th, and if you don't....you can get Leopard for $9.95 USD + tax. Actually you can still get Leopard for 9.95 if you order before the 26th. There's no sesnse in waiting until the 26th to order because it's a crap shoot as to whether you will get a machine with Leopard and you will just end up waiting another week for nothing.
 
I'm interested to see how well (or if) Apple optimized Leopard for mult-core machines. My bet is it's significantly faster than Tiger on multi-core CPUs on average.


As I have stated earlier, I have noticed a substantial increase in the performance under Leopard. Applications open and respond faster. Start up times are slightly faster...everything seems, and i hate this word as a descriptor, snappier....and it's not a placebo effect.
 
There's so many features in Leopard I can't wait to use, and that will make my (and my families) life easier.

But I keep hearing conflicting information on how CS3 is running under 10.5, can anyone here shed some light on if Adobe and/or Apple has been able to get this resolved ?

Unfortunately if CS3 isn't running well in Leopard, I will have a leopard box sitting on my shelf for a little while.

CS3 runs exceptionally well under Leopard.
 
A little factoid: I bought my first Sun workstation right after Sun announced that it was going to make OpenStep the center of its development effort. Sun even bought Lighthouse, one of the leading OpenStep developers with a great suite of NeXTSTEP apps. Then upper management discovered Java and put all their effort behind that and dropped OpenStep.

Good to see Sun made the right choice. :rolleyes:
Your factoid seems to run astray when you attempted to discuss motivations... Sun didn't drop OpenStep, NeXT was bought by Apple. Sun's use of the NEXTSTEP environment was part of a partnership with NeXT (designed to help move NeXT users from NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP to Solaris OpenStep on Sun hardware), that partnership ended when NeXT became part of Apple.

The fallacy that most people make when looking back on these events is that NeXT placed any value on NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP... they didn't. NeXT was looking for a way to relieve themselves of supporting an operating system, and Sun wanted something better than CDE or OpenWindows for a user environment. NeXT rolled back interface advances that were going to be included in NEXTSTEP 4.0 because Sun's Solaris OpenStep looked like NEXTSTEP 3.3. NeXT realized that had version 4.x included these advances, users would see a move to Solaris OpenStep as a step backwards.

Those who don't believe me should look into the dates of all this... The first release of Solaris OpenStep was in August of 1996 (Lighthouse was bought in June of 1996), Apple's acquisition of NeXT was announced in December of 1996. The project was dropped after that, with the exception of a few Lighthouse people who put together an unofficial 1.1 release to address a few issues.

If you bought your Sun in the Summer of 1996 because they were going to make OpenStep the center of its development effort, then I'm sure that the news of Apple acquiring NeXT in December of that year couldn't have escaped you. Sun didn't have a choice, NeXT disappeared and Apple had no intension of supplying Sun with any help.
 
Just took some time to read through the list on Apple.com.

There's some really awesome stuff here, and I'm highly eager to play around with it on my newly purchased hardware (MacBook Pro).

If I was a bit closer to the Apple Store, I'd take a ride out for the ensuing party! :)
 
iChat File Fransfer Manager

Anyone know if there is a setting in Leopard's iChat that allows Automatic File Transfers from designated people in your Buddy List?
I would welcome that feature.
As it stands now, in iChat, I have to be present to manually "Accept" any file transfers.

My PC-using friends can set their IM clients to auto allow any files I send them to begin transferring.

And I know there are other Mac-centric IM clients that allow this.
I'm just curious if new iChat does.

Thanks.
 
actually i am fluent in 3 languages and can handle basic stuff in 2 more.

so no.... not monolingual by any stretch.

and no I am not american.

I don't need japanese and doubt that the majority of OS X users have a need for it.

Given that a major emphasis of Apple for a very, very long time was the Japanese market, I would say your doubts are based more on your personal biases and not on actual needs.

And did you not read the part about the West Coast and their need to work with Japanese businesses?
 
Enhanced Wireless Capture

"Wirelessly import images from many 802.11-enabled digital cameras and Bluetooth devices."

Anyone know if this includes iPhones?
 
Does anyone know if you can FLIP the image of a hanging camera in iChat??

As for the rest of these; we'll see. I just can't imagine anything all that great coming through with expectations they conjure. Maybe I will be surprised.
 
Great features! The only missing feature I wish was in there was full NTFS support. This is a biggie as now more and more users are going to use BootCamp with either XP or Vista. Vista doesn't allow you format for FAT32 and XP doesnt always either. So this makes it hard to transfer files back and forth. With NTFS you can only copy files from the NTFS volume, but not write to it. I know that FAT32 is full support.

Microsoft has NTFS patented, so Apple can't really do anything about write support unless Microsoft played nice.
 
Given that a major emphasis of Apple for a very, very long time was the Japanese market, I would say your doubts are based more on your personal biases and not on actual needs.

And did you not read the part about the West Coast and their need to work with Japanese businesses?

you need to take a chill pill and get a life buddy.

i did read your post and i find your statement irrelevant.

( are you a bilingual asian ? )
 
Yah I ordered Leopard today after depositing this....

000086zp


Thanks Microsoft for almost buying me Leopard. :D

I'm still not planning on installing it for at least a month after getting it. Yes I'm paranoid but I still think this OS was rushed at the end. We'll see though. If there are no major issues...maybe my external FW800 Drive before I dive into installing it on my MBP. :confused: While overall I'm disappointed on the evolutionary progress of OS X and leopard, there are some key features, both on the surface and under the hood, that makes Leopard a solid purchase.....esp at about $20
 
Yah I ordered Leopard today after depositing this....

000086zp


Thanks Microsoft for almost buying me Leopard. :D

I'm still not planning on installing it for at least a month after getting it. Yes I'm paranoid but I still think this OS was rushed at the end. We'll see though. If there are no major issues...maybe my external FW800 Drive before I dive into installing it on my MBP. :confused: While overall I'm disappointed on the evolutionary progress of OS X and leopard, there are some key features, both on the surface and under the hood, that makes Leopard a solid purchase.....esp at about $20

Ha! That's pretty hilarious... :D
 
Yah I ordered Leopard today after depositing this....

000086zp


Thanks Microsoft for almost buying me Leopard. :D

I'm still not planning on installing it for at least a month after getting it. Yes I'm paranoid but I still think this OS was rushed at the end. We'll see though. If there are no major issues...maybe my external FW800 Drive before I dive into installing it on my MBP. :confused: While overall I'm disappointed on the evolutionary progress of OS X and leopard, there are some key features, both on the surface and under the hood, that makes Leopard a solid purchase.....esp at about $20
Post of the day. :D
 
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