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And therein lies the problem. People think USB-C is standardized...and they are both right and wrong about that. The shape of the plug...yes, that's standardized. The capabilities of that cable...not even close. I have multiple USB-C cables in my house and I'm pretty sure each and every one of them has different specs and what works and what doesn't. If people want "standardized" cables...USB-C definitely isn't that.

The EU wanted to throw its power-hungry weight around and it's leaving us with problem after problem now. The EU did what governments do best: take something that worked just fine...and break it. It really seems like with the more things the EU forces...the more the quality drops. This is what happens when people who don't understand technology try to regulate it. Things might be different if they actually had to fully understand the things they want to exert their power over instead of just throw their weight around because they like making rules and don't know what else to do.
:rolleyes:If only there was a group working on a USB PD spec. then we would have a standard. oh wait...

you complain about some accessories not working with a phone but miss the fact that with this upgrade apple finally enabled a bunch of new features and functionality that lightning could not do. give it a year and you won't even think about lightning, and nobody will think that switching was the wrong move.
 
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Which is standard in the industry, Samsung included.

Difference is Samsung calls it a charging cable.
Apple calls it a cable for charging, file transfer, etc...

Call it what it is. I have learned that I need to get a data cable. Was "hoping" based on Apple's description that this would be a 3 instead of a 2.

Silly me.
 
Aaaaaand the EU learns a hard lesson that just because the port looks the same on ALL devices, it doesn't mean the port will work with all devices. There are so many specs of USB-C and PD that comes with it, we were bound to run into these issues.

My USB-C power bank (A Costco one) does not work on everything I plug into it, so this is nothing new IMO.

You think a power bank article forced the EU to learn a hard lesson?
 
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:rolleyes:If only there was a group working on a USB PD spec. then we would have a standard. oh wait...

you complain about some accessories not working with a phone but miss the fact that with this upgrade apple finally enabled a bunch of new features and functionality that lightning could not do. give it a year and you won't even think about lightning, and nobody will think that switching was the wrong move.
Hmm...too bad that in my own personal use cases...those newly enabled features and functionality are pointless gimmicks that I'll never use. I haven't seen a single one of these new features or functions that look useful. But I DO have to go purchase a new cable though so I can continue to be able to use CarPlay. So this switch doesn't offer me anything beneficial but it does require a purchase that wouldn't have been necessary if the switch wasn't forced. Oh and all the docks in my house, and the one I have at work...are now useless. Some of which weren't cheap. I don't think switching was the right move (by mandate, specifically. The EU can go pound sand for all I care instead of sticking their noses where they don't belong) and I don't see that changing. The one on my iPad doesn't always work (which is a problem I NEVER had with Lightning) and one of the ones on my Mac doesn't either.
 


Apple added a USB-C port to the iPhone 15 lineup this year, allowing it to work with USB-C cables, USB-C power banks, and more. It turns out that some USB-C battery packs are not working properly with Apple's iPhone 15, resulting in charging issues.

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As highlighted on Reddit and the MacRumors forums, not all existing USB-C power banks can be used with the iPhone 15 models, perhaps due to the iPhone's reverse charging feature. In some cases, the iPhone 15 will fail to charge, or the iPhone 15 will charge the power bank.

A range of different power banks are affected, and because of the wide number of them on the market, it is impossible to list the models that are non-functional. One version that fails to work is the Anker PowerCore Slim 10K PD, and a customer who contacted Anker was told that the only way to get the power bank to charge the iPhone is to use the USB-A port.

The iPhone 15 models are able to charge an Apple Watch, AirPods, or another iPhone through the USB-C port, and there is a possibility that this functionality is what's impacting some power banks. Most USB-C power banks with Power Delivery seem to be working as intended, including a number of models tested by MacRumors, but iPhone 15 owners should be aware that some could be incompatible.

Article Link: Some USB-C Power Banks Fail to Work With iPhone 15


Apple added a USB-C port to the iPhone 15 lineup this year, allowing it to work with USB-C cables, USB-C power banks, and more. It turns out that some USB-C battery packs are not working properly with Apple's iPhone 15, resulting in charging issues.

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As highlighted on Reddit and the MacRumors forums, not all existing USB-C power banks can be used with the iPhone 15 models, perhaps due to the iPhone's reverse charging feature. In some cases, the iPhone 15 will fail to charge, or the iPhone 15 will charge the power bank.

A range of different power banks are affected, and because of the wide number of them on the market, it is impossible to list the models that are non-functional. One version that fails to work is the Anker PowerCore Slim 10K PD, and a customer who contacted Anker was told that the only way to get the power bank to charge the iPhone is to use the USB-A port.

The iPhone 15 models are able to charge an Apple Watch, AirPods, or another iPhone through the USB-C port, and there is a possibility that this functionality is what's impacting some power banks. Most USB-C power banks with Power Delivery seem to be working as intended, including a number of models tested by MacRumors, but iPhone 15 owners should be aware that some could be incompatible.

Article Link: Some USB-C Power Banks Fail to Work With iPhone 15
This is because the person trying didn't bother to read the labels on the ports. Some USB-C ports do both. Some....do not. I have an Anker 737 that works fine....it's NOT a problem with Apple. It's not a problem with Anker. It's a problem with people just assuming all USB-C ports are always 2 way.
 
Maybe there needs to be a toggle under battery settings that tells the iPhone to either accept a charge or to reverse charge? 🤷‍♂️
Here's how to get it to work right....if the bank has a power button or button to detect charging...press it to make sure the lights are lit up before you plug it in. Then plug in the phone...works every time for me on those with that. Also the Anker 737 works with our that. There's no need for a toggle in iOS.
 
Lots of issues seem to be popping up with USB-C lately. Wonder how many more stores we're going to see about USB-C not working correctly for whatever given function. Superior connector my ***. Maybe the EU should've kept their noses out of it instead of mandating this crap.
It IS a superior connector. You just have to learn how it works.

Lightening was input only. USB-C isn't. Some banks that have a port doesn't mean you can use that port to charge the phone.

Learn how it works and you'll be fine.
 
It IS a superior connector. You just have to learn how it works.

Lightening was input only. USB-C isn't. Some banks that have a port doesn't mean you can use that port to charge the phone.

Learn how it works and you'll be fine.
I'm well aware of how it works, thank you very much. As an example...I have multiple in my house and all of them have different specs and what they do and can't do. But I knew that when I bought them because I know what I need them for. But there is nothing "superior" about it, especially for the average person who will see a USB-C cable and assume it works without reading the packaging because people don't read anymore! Not to mention the fact that the potential point of failure is now IN THE FREAKING DEVICE instead of on the cable! If my Lightning cable craps out...buy a new lightning cable. But the f'ed up USB-C port on my iPad and one on my MacBook...not as easy of a fix, which is a problem because the darn thing doesn't reliably charge! I can deal with that issue on the MacBook because, well...Magsafe. The iPad though is a problem. For my personal uses...USB-C is a downgrade in every single way. End of story.

Here's the thing...the technologically clueless politicians in the EU mandated a "standard". The problem is their mandated "standard" isn't even standard ITSELF!!! Going back to what I said above...you could go to the store and buy 5 USB-C cables and each one of them will have different specs. If you're going to mandate a "standard" you should also ensure that the standard itself is standardized! Otherwise you start seeing stories like this where "x thing doesn't work with x thing"
 
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This sounds like an Apple design issue.
Note: I do not have an iPhone 15.

I have several power banks (Cali brownout and earthquake preparedness) and use Android and Apple stuff. Along with Windows and Mac. All but my iPhone use USB-C. I buy the higher capacity cables.

Can't say I have had any of these, including iPhone not work with a powerbank. Knowing this, it tells me this is an Apple design issue, not a powerbank issue or a USB-C issue.
But it's never Apple's fault, right? 😉
 
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Difference is Samsung calls it a charging cable.
Apple calls it a cable for charging, file transfer, etc...

Call it what it is. I have learned that I need to get a data cable. Was "hoping" based on Apple's description that this would be a 3 instead of a 2.

Silly me.

Have you seen the USB 3 cables? They're a lot thicker and stiffer. Most of us don't even need data cables so I'd prefer something that can fast charge and stays slim.
 
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It appears that there are 2 versions of the Anker PowerCore Slim 10K PD mentioned in this post. The original model number was A1231. At some point, the model number became A1245. When I purchased it in May 2022, I received A1231, but I was having some issues recharging it early this year, so they swapped it under warranty, and I ended up with A1245. They looked extremely similar, but I think the A1245 was just a hair thicker.

My A1245 doesn't charge my iPhone 15 Pro Max, but someone on Reddit said that their A1231 worked fine. Some people in this thread mentioned that charging is fine, and other people mentioned that it doesn't charge. If you have a PowerCore Slim 10K PD and an iPhone 15, please post what model number you have and if your PowerCore Slim 10K PD can charge your phone or not.
 
I'm well aware of how it works, thank you very much. As an example...I have multiple in my house and all of them have different specs and what they do and can't do. But I knew that when I bought them because I know what I need them for. But there is nothing "superior" about it, especially for the average person who will see a USB-C cable and assume it works without reading the packaging because people don't read anymore! Not to mention the fact that the potential point of failure is now IN THE FREAKING DEVICE instead of on the cable! If my Lightning cable craps out...buy a new lightning cable. But the f'ed up USB-C port on my iPad and one on my MacBook...not as easy of a fix, which is a problem because the darn thing doesn't reliably charge! I can deal with that issue on the MacBook because, well...Magsafe. The iPad though is a problem. For my personal uses...USB-C is a downgrade in every single way. End of story.

Here's the thing...the technologically clueless politicians in the EU mandated a "standard". The problem is their mandated "standard" isn't even standard ITSELF!!! Going back to what I said above...you could go to the store and buy 5 USB-C cables and each one of them will have different specs. If you're going to mandate a "standard" you should also ensure that the standard itself is standardized! Otherwise you start seeing stories like this where "x thing doesn't work with x thing"
I agree, there is nothing "superior" about having all ports and cables looking the same but serving different purposes.

You can't tell anymore which one is a charging cable, a data cable, a video cable, or an audio cable because they are all look the same.

But as usual they'll blame it on the user, saying that he's dumb because he can't distinguish a black USB-C cable from another black USB-C cable.
 
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I agree, there is nothing "superior" about having all ports and cables looking the same but serving different purposes.

You can't tell anymore which one is a charging cable, a data cable, a video cable, or an audio cable because they are all look the same.

But as usual they'll blame it on the user, saying that he's dumb because he can't distinguish a black USB-C cable from another black USB-C cable.
Exactly! If USB-C's specs themselves were standardized, this would be a different conversation! Because all of the USB-C cables in my house have different specs...I color coded them. If I didn't do that, I'd be screwed because they all have different capabilities despite some of them looking EXACTLY the same.
 
Not being a dick but that LCD with the charging stats is an OCD's charging dream.

I was thinking of buying this $150 UGREEN 145W powerbank as it was on sale outside of the US for $57.

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The 737 is $99 on Amazon right now.

Speaking of OCD, listing every iPhone you’ve owned seems a bit more OCD to me.
 
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I'm well aware of how it works, thank you very much. As an example...I have multiple in my house and all of them have different specs and what they do and can't do. But I knew that when I bought them because I know what I need them for. But there is nothing "superior" about it, especially for the average person who will see a USB-C cable and assume it works without reading the packaging because people don't read anymore! Not to mention the fact that the potential point of failure is now IN THE FREAKING DEVICE instead of on the cable! If my Lightning cable craps out...buy a new lightning cable. But the f'ed up USB-C port on my iPad and one on my MacBook...not as easy of a fix, which is a problem because the darn thing doesn't reliably charge! I can deal with that issue on the MacBook because, well...Magsafe. The iPad though is a problem. For my personal uses...USB-C is a downgrade in every single way. End of story.

Here's the thing...the technologically clueless politicians in the EU mandated a "standard". The problem is their mandated "standard" isn't even standard ITSELF!!! Going back to what I said above...you could go to the store and buy 5 USB-C cables and each one of them will have different specs. If you're going to mandate a "standard" you should also ensure that the standard itself is standardized! Otherwise you start seeing stories like this where "x thing doesn't work with x thing"
You can buy a Lightning to USB-C, even from Apple, for the low,low price of $29.00. BTW, not every "average person" is an idiot, at least I hope not.
 
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