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Sony CEO Confirms Camera Module Production for Apple? 8-MP Camera on iPhone 5?
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No, but enough sites do make use of it that Apple really should allow the CONSUMER to make the decision to enable or disable it. I know the Apple fanboys will disagree, but I wouldn't expect anything less from those guys.
Hehe. You are the one falling for the myth about MP myth. DXOMark has a lengthy article that explains why more megapixels is NOT a bad thing. It does NOT negatively influence low light capabilities, contrary to popular belief.
Correct. An 8M image sensor for cameraphones is retarded because it is beyond the resolving power of the lens itself. It's just generating big images of digital noise; no extra information is being captured.
Really a 3-5 megapixel sensor is really the resolution limit based on the optics. What manufacturers should concentrate on is low-light performance.
This also helps video recording since those frames are basically taken around 1/60 of a second shutter speeds. For still shots, you can have longer exposures but you don't have that luxury when shooting video.
Not on mobile devices...
I would not feel so strongly about this if Adobe could write a stable, fast, less vulnerable version of flash for the Mac.
However as of today Adobe has shown they could give a rats ass about Apple and Flash is proof. It is buggy, it crashes a lot, even with hardware acceleration it is still a cpu hog and it seems every time I turn around another security exploit has been found.
Apple please keep Flash off of your iOS products and keep moving forward with html5.
I never disagreed with that, but that's not what I'm talking about-- I'm talking about sensor capabilities, which is the core issue in the MP myth. Just because something has 3 more MP than something else doesn't make it better at all... the quality of the sensor is essential, no? I'm not saying its a bad thing, but to say that this 5MP camera from this manufacturer is worse than this 8MP camera from a different manufacturer solely based on MP... that's the crux of the MP fallacy.
Most internet users do, yes. 96.79% of them infact. That site polls (and updates, so no duplicates) PC and Mac users who use Steam.
I want an iPad that takes, at least reasonable quality photo's.
I would not expect DSLR quality, but if I am out and I have my iPad with me, and I wish to take a photo or a video, then at least I would like it to be of a quality that does the moment justice.
The silly thing about this argument is you are defending the indefensible.
There is no reason why a worse item is desirable over a better item all things being equal.
The only reasons are cost, size etc.
1mp camera's should have stopped being made years ago. There is no reason to deliberately make anything worse that you can, unless it's marketing and a planned strategy.
A good photographer can take brilliant photographs with a disposible camera, a bad photographer will still take rubbish photographs with a top end DSLR.
So true, there is always a person in every photo.
The photographer....
If you're out, you'd rather pull out your iPad then a phone or camera to take a picture? Really?
Great, fantastic, and amazing news! The most advanced camera in the universe for the most advanced phone in the universe!
No company innovates the way Apple does, no company!
No company innovates the way Apple does, no company!
Arh, in that case I agree. I don't think the iPhone4 really resolves 5 megapixels as it is.
But I'm sure this 8MP sensor from Sony will have better dynamic range and low-light capabilities than the current one.
Bigger is not always better
Yes! thank you Chris. God, finally! Please all fanboiz, wake up! It is the LENS it is the quality of the sensor. More MP is not always better!! Spec heads.
Yes! thank you Chris. God, finally! Please all fanboiz, wake up! It is the LENS it is the quality of the sensor. More MP is not always better!! Spec heads.
Well my phone does not have a camera and I may not be carrying a camera at the time.
If an event occurs, then I will use whatever I have to hand at that moment.
If I happen to be carrying my DSLR then I would use that, if I happen to have the iPad in my hands then I would use that.
Again, I see no reason to select a worse device other than marketing.
In the same way, in the old days, your car may not have a stereo, but the deluxe model had a stereo. Despite it only being $20 on a $5000 car.
It was just done for marketing.
Or course, if a nice camera added an inch to the back, or $100 to the device then of course, there is a reason not to.
Very true. My 8 year old 3.2MB Olympus takes amazing pictures as good as my much more expensive 10MP Canon SLR. Also, my GF's new phone has a 8MP camera and it's junk. My iPhone does soooo much better.
Anyway... it would be good to see more in the iPhone 5. I would love to see them put a bigger lens though. More lens would do much better in lower light.
Considering it runs like crap on Android from what I have read there is no way as long as steve is around that will go in an iOS.
http://gigaom.com/video/video-flash-on-android-is-startlingly-bad/
Use Skyfire if you really need it I sure don't miss Flash.
And plenty of people who have Droids are happy with their Flash.
Posters here like to cite the average consumer. Well, I submit the average consumers have no negative pov towards Flash (or rather no opinions either way) and while not having it isn't going to keep them from buying iPads/iPhones they'd take it if given the choice.
I thought I would say why I am excited about this news. You can all say it's got nothing to do with megapixels and your right, a jump from 5 to 8 is hardly front page news worthy, all of Canons decent compacts use very nice 10 to 12 megapixel backlit sensors.
I'm excited because the Exmoor R Sony sensor has been hailed as a great device, because of it's lens and it's backlit CMOS. That's why I want it, I'm in way a professional photographer like the large majority of mobile phone owners. You want a camera on your phone that can take great pics when you have the time to frame and so on every shot, but also a device you can whip out and take very quick shots with. But you want it in a phone to save carrying another device as you always have your phone.
Because of this, moving to Sony is the best news yet as it will give users like me what I want that I think the current iPhone lacks. I would also like to see scene selections as well.
If I wanted to take care with photographs and wanted great shots every single time I would buy a beginners SLR.
And a note to Apple, considering the shake you can get holding a phone, is it really that hard to put a dedicated hardware camera button on the side? And move the flash away from the sensor and make it more powerful please?
Heres a review of the Xperia Arc's camera, and this is on early software for the phone too:
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Sony-Ericsson-Xperia-arc-Preview_id2638/page/3
I'm excited because the Exmoor R Sony sensor has been hailed as a great device, because of it's lens and it's backlit CMOS. That's why I want it, I'm in way a professional photographer like the large majority of mobile phone owners. You want a camera on your phone that can take great pics when you have the time to frame and so on every shot, but also a device you can whip out and take very quick shots with. But you want it in a phone to save carrying another device as you always have your phone.
Because of this, moving to Sony is the best news yet as it will give users like me what I want that I think the current iPhone lacks. I would also like to see scene selections as well.
If I wanted to take care with photographs and wanted great shots every single time I would buy a beginners SLR.
And a note to Apple, considering the shake you can get holding a phone, is it really that hard to put a dedicated hardware camera button on the side? And move the flash away from the sensor and make it more powerful please?
Heres a review of the Xperia Arc's camera, and this is on early software for the phone too:
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Sony-Ericsson-Xperia-arc-Preview_id2638/page/3
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So much misinformation in this thread and very few accurate replies.
More megapixels is better than fewer, because:
1. You can make larger prints
2. You can crop tighter
HOWEVER:
There are limitations with the lens and sensor. Putting more MP on the same sized sensor creates higher pixel density. We are at a saturation point with the current 5MP sensor where adding pixels will add substantial noise and degrade the image quality. 8 MP on the current sensor is a downgrade. At best, coupled with in-camera processing algorithms to deal with the noise, it's a lateral move. At best.
You can't simply stick in a bigger sensor, either. You are limited by the focal length, which is dictated by the thickness of the device. There is no magic way around this. Here's a lesson:
http://www.dpreview.com/learn/?/Glossary/Optical/Focal_Length_01.htm
I won't even get into the lens.
More megapixels is better than fewer, because:
1. You can make larger prints
2. You can crop tighter
HOWEVER:
There are limitations with the lens and sensor. Putting more MP on the same sized sensor creates higher pixel density. We are at a saturation point with the current 5MP sensor where adding pixels will add substantial noise and degrade the image quality. 8 MP on the current sensor is a downgrade. At best, coupled with in-camera processing algorithms to deal with the noise, it's a lateral move. At best.
You can't simply stick in a bigger sensor, either. You are limited by the focal length, which is dictated by the thickness of the device. There is no magic way around this. Here's a lesson:
http://www.dpreview.com/learn/?/Glossary/Optical/Focal_Length_01.htm
I won't even get into the lens.