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You may be right. But if Apple can get streaming exclusives from the likes of Taylor Swift & AC/DC, it will be a hit.
That will bring no good to users, exclusivity, time limited exclusivity and other ********s...
 
It's true though. I know I don't care. I play music locally. I see no use in streaming music. Just buy a copy (online or disk), sync it with your iDevice and boom. You own your music when you buy it. You don't have that when you stream it.

Streaming music is way better for music discovery since there's no risk in checking out a new artist or album. This alone makes it better for both music listeners and creators.
 
It all feels a little too late..would anyone realistically move from Spotify to Apple? Unless they subsidise it down to $5 this will be another minor success and not the shift Apple is hoping for.
You assume most of the world uses Spotify. I keep company with a large amount of people that are techies. None of them stream music. Not because they refuse to. I bring up Spotify often. They never heard of it. By your logic Apple should've never created a cell phone because everybody already had one.
 
I added a bit to my post. I hope Apple do release a cross-platform SDK, but I think the Spotify-Sony deal will stop it on the PS4.

TBF, I don't know many that listen via PS4, they tend to just AirPlay via iOS or push via android direct to TV. I think consoles are the minority device here. With Xbox Music, it's baked into Windows 10 and Windows Phone.
 
that's fine if you're Apple-only, but Apple will never, for example, create apps for my PS4 or my LG TV. Spotify do.
Well that's pushing it a bit far. Apple is developing for the Android platform. Most people don't listen to music through their TV or gaming system. Yes yes yes, I know you can play your music while gaming. I have a PS4. I tried with Spotify. It works but it's not really a huge deal. I'm just stating what makes sense in terms of a business decision. Most people listen to their music via their phones or laptop computers. It would be great if they did offer Apple Music on the PS4, but I doubt it will be a priority.
 
For me, it is simple convenience.. I do not have to use up my data every time I want to listen to songs. It is that simple for me.

I pretty much only listen to music while I'm bored on a plane or on my car radio. If I only did streaming, not only would I have to pay for a subscription I would have to pay for GoGo inflight wifi, too.
Offline Mode. It's a thing.

When I listen to music I listen to specific songs I like, not random songs even if they are from an artist I generally like. I learn about new music when I have the radio on in the car or from a movie (like I did with some songs from the Fifty Shades of Grey movie.) The movie was crap but it had some really nice music in it :p

Streaming is important for the youngsters but there are plenty of people who still want to own specific songs on their iPhone that don't require data access to hear.
"Random" songs are the radio model popularized by Pandora. On-demand services like Spotify, Rdio, et al, let you listen to songs, albums, and playlists of your choice.
 
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If Apple Music offers the following, I'd be likely to switch from Spotify:

Account sharing. Right now I pay $20/month to provide Spotify Premium to myself and two family members. I'd really like to see Apple Music offer a similar discount, though this seems very unlikely at launch.

Lossless quality. Spotify maxes out at 320kbps. Tidal offers up to lossless 1411kbps. This seems even less likely than account sharing, though hopefully Apple Music offers at least 320kbps.

Offline storage. Important for me as a Spotify user, is having offline playlists. If Apple Music doesn't have this at launch, I'll be surprised.

Account sharing is feasible, look at the family thing, it'll probably tie in with that.

Lossless is mostly for a minority at the moment. iTunes Radio is 256kbps at the moment I believe, so Apple music will be the same, it'll all come from the iTunes Store. Hopefully they'll change t up to 320kbps

Yea, as for offline, I agree.
 
Streaming music is way better for music discovery since there's no risk in checking out a new artist or album. This alone makes it better for both music listeners and creators.

I'm guessing you don't have a lot of contact with "creators" to say such a thing... I do and that's ehem, total Bull. New artist got real well known in the past through radio, word of mouth, shows, even clips they put out for free themselves. They don't need the $1 per month from people streaming ten of thousands of their songs and maybe, if they're lucky gain a few fans outside their home city.

To make money from touring you need big venues, money to set up the tout, and a significant fan base. All current streaming service don't give you that kind of money and not that much exposure, so your still stuck doing shows in your home city with even less money from selling your music than before.

Its better for listeners, but not artists.
 
Massive ATV upgrade with streaming music around the home. Controlled by an Apple watch where you can pay online via Apple pay. They got to come up with some use for the apple watch beside being a bit of bling !
 
You assume most of the world uses Spotify. I keep company with a large amount of people that are techies. None of them stream music. Not because they refuse to. I bring up Spotify often. They never heard of it. By your logic Apple should've never created a cell phone because everybody already had one.

I know a lot of techies and at least half of them use some form of streaming service. Most, if not all techies know about music streaming services, Spotify isn't the only one.....
 
Under Steve Jobs, a reveal in advance of the keynote would have meant a broken partnership with Sony. The employee who revealed on Instagram would have been fired instantly as well.

"The times they are a changin'."

This is a controlled leak though which is something that occurred while jobs was at the helm too.
 
The problem with it becoming the tipping point for stream vs d/l is the data use on a mobile device. If you stream music regularly you will really hit data caps or need a larger cap, unless you have wifi access. In addition, it means no music when you can't stream, such as when flying unless you want to pay for wifi where it is available.

I'd like to see a two option model: buy the song outright or be able to stream and download with the d/ls only playable while you have an active subscription. They could auto-expire after a certain number roof days and whenever you connect to the server automatically extend the date to your next renewal date.

It's called offline mode and its not new.
 
It's true though. I know I don't care. I play music locally. I see no use in streaming music. Just buy a copy (online or disk), sync it with your iDevice and boom. You own your music when you buy it. You don't have that when you stream it.

Buy?!?!?

So spend 14 dollars on the CD, go home, burn it to my computer(take up space on my computer), and store it to only listen to it for a couple of months and never again until two years later just because one of my friends was humming the tune one day.

Nope......no sir. Ill pay the 10 a month to have access to a much broader library of music.
 
I'm guessing you don't have a lot of contact with "creators" to say such a thing... I do and that's ehem, total Bull. New artist got real well known in the past through radio, word of mouth, shows, even clips they put out for free themselves. They don't need the $1 per month from people streaming ten of thousands of their songs and maybe, if they're lucky gain a few fans outside their home city.

To make money from touring you need big venues, money to set up the tout, and a significant fan base. All current streaming service don't give you that kind of money and not that much exposure, so your still stuck doing shows in your home city with even less money from selling your music than before.

Its better for listeners, but not artists.
The key term in your post is "in the past". That is how new artists became well known IN THE PAST. Streaming services open up everyone's audience.

Even Billboard, Nielsen & Soundscan have changed formulas they use to determine chart positions to account for streams. Even a YouTube stream helps music chart. Things are different. Just because something is true in your extremely limited environment does not make it true for an industry as a whole.

Have you ever used a streaming service? You're literally assaulted with playlist on playlist on playlist of music filled with new and upcoming artists, and even well established artists who've never gotten a big spotlight.

If your concern is for the wellbeing of the artist, that's a whole different ballgame far above both our pay grades. But at the end of the day, I think most musicians just want to get their music out and be heard, and streaming music is wonderful way to be heard.
 
If Apple Music offers the following, I'd be likely to switch from Spotify:

Account sharing. Right now I pay $20/month to provide Spotify Premium to myself and two family members. I'd really like to see Apple Music offer a similar discount, though this seems very unlikely at launch.

Lossless quality. Spotify maxes out at 320kbps. Tidal offers up to lossless 1411kbps. This seems even less likely than account sharing, though hopefully Apple Music offers at least 320kbps.

Offline storage. Important for me as a Spotify user, is having offline playlists. If Apple Music doesn't have this at launch, I'll be surprised.
Same here, I want lossless quality above all. Then I can finally forget about buying CDs. Something tells me though that Apple just underwhelms us again, since Steve is not pushing this anymore. I mean, if there ever was a real music lover (not just for marketing reasons) inside Apple, it was Steve.

Just think about the possibilities, all songs lossless and available everywhere and maybe an option for reduced quality to optimize on data usage. Together with a lossless upgrade for iTunes Match this would hands down blow everyone else out of the water. They would literally destroy their competition with this. But I am dreaming too much.
 
Am I the only one here who isn't looking forward to 20 minutes of Apple Watch & Apple Stores statistics and then another 30+ minutes dedicated to this music service?

I'm looking forward to stellar new OS X & iOS releases! And hopefully some other unknown surprises!

Yes, you are the only one.
 
Perhaps lots of us live in caves. Or think 10 bucks a month is (takes off socks to aid multiplication) hmm quite a lot per year. Subscription services are insidious, Adobe loves them, M$ is starting to love them, Apple appears now to love them too. When I tried to 'upgrade' to the latest Photos app it very quickly explained how much it wanted me to pay every month to keep 36 pictures of my cat, I declined, I still have the cat, I can take another picture of her tomorrow.

I have the music I bought. Podcasts still exist (no really they still do and they are FREE). I'm never going to sign up for a daily/weekly/monthly/annual fee for listening to music not at 10 a month, 5 a month or 2 a month.

The reason streaming subscriptions have become popular with companies is because they make more money out of them, which means they are worse for you Mr Joe Consumer. If that's what it costs to consume music, I will stop consuming it.
The appeal of downloading versus streaming music is largely a function of age.

The older you are, the more likely your music collection has matured to the point where you're rarely acquiring new music, in which case $120 a year seems egregiously expensive.

The younger you are, the more likely it is that your musical tastes and knowledge are still evolving, so there's a higher premium on discovering new music than on revisiting old favorites indefinitely. Paying $120 a year for access to millions of titles is a steal compared to building a library one paid download at a time (e.g., 8-10 albums per year). Being able to follow other listeners with tastes you respect (not just paid curators, but normal music fans) and learn about new music is a huge feature of streaming services that you can't get from media stores.
 
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Boring announcement. I've been using Spotify for years. They got there first and I have no intention of switching over to Apple's service. Over three years too late. I hope there is something else big at WWDC. Apple has really been losing me as a customer with toys like the Watch and this streaming service hardly needs an announcement with so many other options having been available for so long.
 
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Tomorrow will be a waste of time on epic proportions. No new products. A huge dance around to the disaster of the apple watch. A scam to get another 20 bucks a month of your money to put right next to all those other 20 bucks a months from everybody else that easily add up to thousand plus a year. Capped by a new iOS you will forced to download, as they strong arm the app developers to instantly roll out IOS9-only updates, that will pretty much brick your device if its more than two years old. All in all a typical post Jobs WWDC.
 
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I love all these positive attitudes. /sarcasm.

In all seriousness though, it's obvious that Apple has been working hard on new offerings, and I for one will wait until I actually see what that offering is before I pass judgment. I guess there's just no pleasing some people nowadays. It's not like you're forced to use this new stuff. If Spotify has worked for you, then great. It will continue to do so. But maybe, just maybe Apple might come out with a credible alternative, and hey, how's that a bad thing!?
 
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