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J'aiI managed to create a bootable partition of macOS X 10.5 without with error 16 via disk manager. So I'll be able to switch normally to version 10.5.8 and 10.5.9 (we'll do it in order) I also saw that the store is unfortunately no longer active. Tell me where I could find programs for this system (photoshop or other interesting program)
The Sorbet “App Store” still functions for me as do the respective app dl links. Just tried it on my pmG5.
Sorbet appstore1.jpg

Finder>Applications>Sorbet App Store.

Good luck :)
 
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Merci pourThank you for your help in any case. The PMG5 will come back to life, I will be able to push it to the maximum of its possibilities (now it has 3GB. So at 8GB found a wifi and Bluetooth card)
Your welcome & welcome to MR :) Sorbet and the modern web really like max ram and an SSD :apple: Your Powermac will thank you with snappier response/function. Have fun on your Powermac G5 rebuild journey!

Let us know how it goes :cool:
 
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J'aiI managed to create a bootable partition of macOS X 10.5 without with error 16 via disk manager. So I'll be able to switch normally to version 10.5.8 and 10.5.9 (we'll do it in order) I also saw that the store is unfortunately no longer active. Tell me where I could find programs for this system (photoshop or other interesting program)

If you consider open-source, then https://macos-powerpc.org (it’s like MacPorts, but better for PowerPC).

P. S. For proprietary software, besides obvious, you may check KDX/Hotline servers, some are still alive.
 
So, good news and bad news.
I managed to install from version 10.3.9 to 10.5.8.
The bad news is that 10.5.9 bugs during installation
I have:
1 Mac OS X video (OK)
2 page of the choice of language (OK)
3 keyboard selection page (OK)
4 User Information Transfer Page (Bug)
Because, as soon as I'm on page 4 automatic after a few seconds it goes back to 1 and it loops

 
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I found my mistake for the installation of sobert. You have to create an account not retrieve the information from an existing one.
So I'm in the process of installing some good programs.
This is one more operasionel.
 
Can you tell me the name and where you found this application? And the 2 surrounded, what is it?
The Amazon and Ebay apps I have on this mac are separate instances of INTHEBOX (@wicknix) which utilizes a mobile UA to open a lighter separate instance of a website. Prior to Aquafox browser, I was using InterwebPPC browser (wicknix) which was a continuation of TenFourFox browser (Cameron Kaiser). InTheBox is a continuation of TFF's companion app TFF Foxboxes ( also by Cameron Kaiser). They're reasonably snappy on this dual core a1117 and not bad on my slower a1047 dual cpu G5s but you do see performance slow down especially on sub 1ghz G4s. Still, very useful and fun to have.
ITB1.jpg

In regards to these apps: (from left to right)
pm apps1.jpg

The red icon is TenFiveTube (wicknix) which is a stand alone player for Youtube which uses a mobile user agent to open a mobile instance of the YT website. Its pretty great and is a staple in my PowerPC mac setup - all my ppc machines I have utilize this fantastic app from singlecore g4 cpus up through this dualcore G5. IIRC there is a Snow Leopard Early Intel version of this too called TenSixTube also available/searchable through the above link/site. I havent used it though but Im sure it works great.
TFT1.jpg

The circle with cool siri-esque waves in it was an app I put together called Invidtube that streamed invidious video instances from the site. Since 2023, it's sadly been shut down (by YT). As it doesnt work anymore and with three kids (young boys into sports and BMX no less - oldest is noticing girls now lol) I haven't had time to work/evolve it into anything else unfortunately :)

The blue flower is the icon that is generated for Legacy AI (Manticore, @greystash ). I love this app for standing up AI chat function on my Early Intel, PowerPC and 68k macs. I bought this one - absolutely worth the modest $15 bucks IIRC? to support the developer. They did an awesome job - still works and the dev offers it as a free download too which is such a cool nod to the small retro Apple community. Anyways, I use it often. Its like my own little personal protocol droid haha.

Lastly, the big M is a separate instance of gmail using wicknix's InTheBox. It used to be AWESOME with gmails html web mail but now its a fat and bloated mess and is slow as it connects into google webtool/spaces or whatever it calls itself now (gmail killed off its html webmail last year sadly - still salty about that haha). Current gmail webmail is usable but not nearly as cool, nostalgic & snappy as it used to be as html webmail.
gmailapp1.jpg

Anyways I hope this helps to understand what is going on there :)

Good luck!
 
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here are the icons i created for Sorbet Leopard, there are since the announcement of this creation the folders for all versions of mac systems since Mac OS X, and also CDs, DVDs, Blu-rays

Edit : 🤔 I'm going to try to create an installation pack like the bonus pack that modifies the interface of Leopard in high sierra 😂 But better
 

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Working in modern Linux every day and steadily growing tired of attempting to finagle GIMP into compliance each time I need to do graphics tasks, I've been missing my good old G5 which has now been collecting dust for years. So I recently dug it out, upgraded its RAM, and reinstalled the two best operating systems ever onto a fresh disk (alongside Creative Suite and Pixelmator).

Man, if OSes could be compared to houses, there's just no place like Tiger and Leopard. Particularly on Sorbet, I am amazed that almost everything in YouTube still works in the upgraded Safari, now nearly 4 years since R15 was released. It even does the animation for entering and leaving full screen usually only seen on much newer systems, complete with the modern video player controls. Most other websites still continue to work as well, with Aquafox making short work of the few that require TLS 1.3.

Simply unreal. Everything to this day holds up far better than expected, in my opinion. I really need to figure out how to run a VNC session to another system from one of the older clients available so I can just daily this beast again like the good old days.

So, good news and bad news.
I managed to install from version 10.3.9 to 10.5.8.
The bad news is that 10.5.9 bugs during installation
I have:
1 Mac OS X video (OK)
2 page of the choice of language (OK)
3 keyboard selection page (OK)
4 User Information Transfer Page (Bug)
Because, as soon as I'm on page 4 automatic after a few seconds it goes back to 1 and it loops

That's definitely not supposed to happen. Now that you mention it though, I vaguely recall that there might have been a known issue with the user transfer mode in Setup Assistant around when the first public build was released (which later this year will be half a decade ago), perhaps caused by a missing framework of some sort.

In any case, the whole thing is due for an update--for instance, there's no practical reason it's incompatible with Intel, and the fact that the base system cannot be reinstalled from the disc is a longstanding problem. But unfortunately with remote work and other commitments, I don't get an off button and spare time comes at a premium.

If I can ever get around to it though, I'll showcase your icon theme for everyone to see. Looks cool, great work! :)
 
Working in modern Linux every day and steadily growing tired of attempting to finagle GIMP into compliance each time I need to do graphics tasks, I've been missing my good old G5 which has now been collecting dust for years. So I recently dug it out, upgraded its RAM, and reinstalled the two best operating systems ever onto a fresh disk (alongside Creative Suite and Pixelmator).

Man, if OSes could be compared to houses, there's just no place like Tiger and Leopard. Particularly on Sorbet, I am amazed that almost everything in YouTube still works in the upgraded Safari, now nearly 4 years since R15 was released. It even does the animation for entering and leaving full screen usually only seen on much newer systems, complete with the modern video player controls. Most other websites still continue to work as well, with Aquafox making short work of the few that require TLS 1.3.

Simply unreal. Everything to this day holds up far better than expected, in my opinion. I really need to figure out how to run a VNC session to another system from one of the older clients available so I can just daily this beast again like the good old days.



That's definitely not supposed to happen. Now that you mention it though, I vaguely recall that there might have been a known issue with the user transfer mode in Setup Assistant around when the first public build was released (which later this year will be half a decade ago), perhaps caused by a missing framework of some sort.

In any case, the whole thing is due for an update--for instance, there's no practical reason it's incompatible with Intel, and the fact that the base system cannot be reinstalled from the disc is a longstanding problem. But unfortunately with remote work and other commitments, I don't get an off button and spare time comes at a premium.

If I can ever get around to it though, I'll showcase your icon theme for everyone to see. Looks cool, great work! :)
Safari has really surprised me too. Still works great.
 
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Simply unreal. Everything to this day holds up far better than expected, in my opinion.

I couldn't agree more @z970, I've been saying something like this for a very long time. A Power Mac G5, updated with Suriken or Sorbet, plus the Aquafox browser, is quite simply amazing after all this time. My G5 Quad is not quite my full time "daily driver", but it is close. I use it almost daily, and for pretty much everything except web browsing to "heavy" sites. The user experience runs rings around today's macOS.

Now I know that there are folks out here on these forums who disagree with this point of view, but that is fine. It doesn't have to be either/or. There is room for both. For me however, the G5/Sorbet experience is so compelling that I work in it whenever I can, and that is for most things. The G5 has held up extremely well 20 years later, demonstrating yet again just how far ahead of the curve Steve Job's Apple was.
 
Safari has really surprised me too. Still works great.

Sure I added some additional performance improvements in the config files and a collection of usability enhancements, but in retrospect I don't think Tobias Netzel gets nearly enough credit for what he did. Leopard WebKit was easily at least the second most important project after TenFourFox for the PPC platform in the last decade, and it shows just how well his port of WebKit 604 has held up, notwithstanding its restriction to TLS 1.2.

If we could just get a TLS proxy service added by default as well, it would be unstoppable...

My G5 Quad is not quite my full time "daily driver", but it is close. I use it almost daily, and for pretty much everything except web browsing to "heavy" sites. The user experience runs rings around today's macOS. ... For me however, the G5/Sorbet experience is so compelling that I work in it whenever I can, and that is for most things.

I think I'm going to take your lead where applicable. Life's too short, there's no reason not to have more fun computing.

Though to be fair the AIM alliance was for the most part something Jobs inherited. Macs from 2006 to 2012 are probably a better representation of his influence, as well as OS X itself.
 
Working in modern Linux every day and steadily growing tired of attempting to finagle GIMP into compliance each time I need to do graphics tasks, I've been missing my good old G5 which has now been collecting dust for years. So I recently dug it out, upgraded its RAM, and reinstalled the two best operating systems ever onto a fresh disk (alongside Creative Suite and Pixelmator).

Man, if OSes could be compared to houses, there's just no place like Tiger and Leopard. Particularly on Sorbet, I am amazed that almost everything in YouTube still works in the upgraded Safari, now nearly 4 years since R15 was released. It even does the animation for entering and leaving full screen usually only seen on much newer systems, complete with the modern video player controls. Most other websites still continue to work as well, with Aquafox making short work of the few that require TLS 1.3.

Simply unreal. Everything to this day holds up far better than expected, in my opinion. I really need to figure out how to run a VNC session to another system from one of the older clients available so I can just daily this beast again like the good old days.



That's definitely not supposed to happen. Now that you mention it though, I vaguely recall that there might have been a known issue with the user transfer mode in Setup Assistant around when the first public build was released (which later this year will be half a decade ago), perhaps caused by a missing framework of some sort.

In any case, the whole thing is due for an update--for instance, there's no practical reason it's incompatible with Intel, and the fact that the base system cannot be reinstalled from the disc is a longstanding problem. But unfortunately with remote work and other commitments, I don't get an off button and spare time comes at a premium.

If I can ever get around to it though, I'll showcase your icon theme for everyone to see. Looks cool, great work! :)
It's a pleasure to be able to participate at my level, I also have to take some time to learn how to create an installation pack (like the pack that installs the High Sierra style which has a small correction to do) so that the integration of the icons will be more automatic and I could therefore offer 2 versions of icons (sorbet color or gray color of the G5)
 
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