As someone who's owned a recent Zenbook, they have the worst trackpads in the industry.. just sayin..
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As someone who's owned a recent Zenbook, they have the worst trackpads in the industry.. just sayin..
I'd really want to get a desktop pc, but I travel a lot, I want my pc everywhere.
I tried it at a shop, it didn't feel that bad. Ofc it can't be compared to Apple's trackpad, but it is enough.
Also, I just saw a new rumor about Macbook refresh still happening this month, and also they will start shipping this month. I don't know how the second part will work (maybe it is why Apple postponed the event this much) but if that is the case, I want to hold on for just a little bit more to see if I can get a 2016 Macbook Pro.
Not necessarily true, for 2D games it might not need this.
And even then, I would recommend the Razer, and then get a Razer Core for the graphic card.
i feel opposite. i have had Zenbook from 2012 and they have been great.
if you are looking for 13" Zenbook, there are two good alternatives: Zenbook 3 (ux390ua) and less expensive Zenbook ux310uq (with dgpu 940mx).
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What are you talking about? How is it "such a slow machine"? Are we back in the 90s and 2000s where processor bumps were MASSIVE? No. I still have an first-gen i7 system that still performs decently. My 2015 custom build PC is not much faster than my 2010 Mac Pro. One is a 3.33Ghz Xeon 6-core and the other is a 3.33Ghz i7 6-core. BUT BUT BUT the 2015 is a newer processor! According to everyone here, it should be a million times faster! Except, it isnt. Why is that? I seriously regret spending $2,000 on a custom built computer when it barely out-performs my 2010 Mac Pro. The only benefit I get out of it is when I recently got the GTX 1080. But, add another $699 to the cost of that computer.
I just bought a 256 Macbook Pro 13, the box is sitting next to me untouched, waiting my friend to open it together cuz I promised him. In my country, having a Mac is like so different. I'll probably be super happy about it even the new models release. One month is a solid one month, and I didn't want to wait.
I seriously do not know what everyone is freaking out about. People are still using 2011-2012 MBPs for production and they still perform nicely. I still use my 2013 rMBP and I use it for VMs, software development, video production, music production, and more. This is not like the old days where you need to upgrade your computer yearly for new software to work. Getting a laptop now won't be crazy like everyone here is saying. And how exactly are the processors outdated? Name other computers that have the exact type of processor (Iris Pro, TDP, ...). Just because one is Broadwell and one is Skylake, it is outdated? Hmm. So if I build a 4Ghz Skylake computer, and a 1.7Ghz Kaby Lake comes out, I should consider that outdated and get the Kaby Lake instead?
My 2009 MacBook Pro is outdated. Apple will not repair or make parts for it. Buying a MacBook now basically means I'll get 3 good years out of a $1500 machine. Processors being outdated is just a fact. There are Skylake chips out now that could power a MacBook Pro. Doesn't mean it won't work but buying a laptop now puts you that much closer to it being an innefective machine. Not sure why this is confusing.
That is a fact no matter what machine you buy. After 3 years, the computers usually become obsolete and no amount of band-aiding can offset it.
Where I totally agree with you is that there are moments which instantly obsolete the older generation. One of those moments could be now (USB-C, hopefully more powerful and efficient GPU tech). E.g. if USB-C manages to get wide adoption within the next 2-3 years, any machine without USB-C will be in severe disadvantage. Another one of such moments would be move to high-bandwidth memory. The moment we get a fused CPU/RAM package, with bandwidths of 256+ GB/s, the current designs instantly become obsolete.
Where are these processors? From what I remember, the processors suitable for the 15" rMBP have only showed up in one computer. I can't remember which one. Skylakes do exist in other computers, but they do not have everything that the rMBP needs (Iris Pro, TDP).
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Regarding USB-C - not necessarily. There can always be adapters. And I got a laptop RIGHT before USB 3 became a major deal. It was a bummer. Apple cannot make a laptop with the next 5 years of tech in mind. But you are referring to different port types, which an adapter should be able to help with that.
Same here. My personal machine and laptop are both Macs but my main job is a .Net developer (loving Visual Studio 2015!). I can play World of Warcraft, Starcraft, Age of Empires (Play on my Mac (Wine)) on my Macs without a problem (though I rarely do anymore today). Won't be going back to Windows. Yeah hardware has stagnated but I'm not a gamer anymore so for me, my Late 2014 Mac Mini with SSD and Early 2015 Macbook Air 11' are more than adequate for my needs and will be for years.
I also agree that the registry is a major pain in Windows. I am not a BIG BIG BIG developer (just a small company and I also develop on my free time), and just the stuff I work on requires some registry tweaks sometimes
I still find gaming much better on Windows though. My GTX 1080 is just smoking everything I play, I rarely see dropped frames. I still see them in WoW though (I still manage to get to 15 FPS in some areas even on medium settings). I can play Doom (2016) at max settings at 144Hz/FPS and not have any issues!
Yeah my custom built 2011 $1600 CoolMaster gaming machine with a $460 graphics card smoked anything I have now (back when I was a serious gamer) - running everything on max graphics settings with 100+fps. If I was still a gamer, yeah, imo, Windows is the only way to go. Sold that to my little brother (for a few hundred) and he's still using it today.
That GPU would heat my room so bad. lol.Yeah my custom built 2011 $1600 CoolMaster gaming machine with a $460 graphics card smoked anything I have now (back when I was a serious gamer) - running everything on max graphics settings with 100+fps. If I was still a gamer, yeah, imo, Windows is the only way to go. Sold that to my little brother (for a few hundred) and he's still using it today.
I am just a casual gamer (says the guy with a GTX 1080). But it is nice not having to deal with a lower performance video card. And the extra CUDA cores helps while video editing. I did get the Founder's Edition, so it was a little bit more expensive for lower performance compared to the other ones. But due to my GTX 980 issues, I don't mind getting one that is not factory overclocked or anything like that.
lol dude if things are good for you that's great, but they're not for me which is, well, what matters the most to me
My 13-inch, Early 2015, with no upgrades (machine I bought for myself, and cost quite a lot) is slower than the everything-upgraded Mac from late 2013 I had (which was insanely expensive, by the way). And both are slower than my colleagues' Windows & Linux machine for similar tasks - say, compiling a very heavy Gulp setup. And for that last example, there's quite a difference (about 15 seconds), but even 5 seconds counts when you're testing stuff all the time and wait for recompilation. Please don't mention Webpack or whatever, I know what to do to make it faster, but in raw perf the MBP is crap.
So yeah I'm pretty bummed by buying outdated hardware for a very high price, and then new adapters, or headphones for a certain phone
If I get this one (because I'm kinda stuck in the Apple world), this will definitely be my last Mac ever. PS: Pretty sure your computer would be faster, and also you can game with it !
All I know is my UX31L was a pile of steaming feces, I had it replaced once at the Microsoft Store within the first month for not powering up. The second one had nothing but trackpad issues.
Let's be completely insane for a second here, and imagine, for an instant, that the MBP were updated with Skylake when it was released, and then updated again with the more powerful Kaby Lake than the ones available now ( so, in a few months). Imagine.
Impossible ! Preposterous !! Surely Apple can't do that ! Dell and the others can, but that's because [whatever BS reason].
Much like making us wait 2.5~3 years for USB 3.0 more than the competition, surely making us wait so we pay a lot for hardware that costs them little is ONLY for our own good !
And not at all because they can, they're *******s, and they make the insane margins ( the highest in the industry) by selling outdated hardware, no sir !
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lol dude if things are good for you that's great, but they're not for me which is, well, what matters the most to me
My 13-inch, Early 2015, with no upgrades (machine I bought for myself, and cost quite a lot) is slower than the everything-upgraded Mac from late 2013 I had (which was insanely expensive, by the way). And both are slower than my colleagues' Windows & Linux machine for similar tasks - say, compiling a very heavy Gulp setup. And for that last example, there's quite a difference (about 15 seconds), but even 5 seconds counts when you're testing stuff all the time and wait for recompilation. Please don't mention Webpack or whatever, I know what to do to make it faster, but in raw perf the MBP is crap.
So yeah I'm pretty bummed by buying outdated hardware for a very high price, and then new adapters, or headphones for a certain phone
PS: Pretty sure your computer would be faster, and also you can game with it !
Faster for production tasks? Nope. I timed it. Encoding the same video on my 2015 computer vs my 2010 Mac Pro was faster (like seconds faster, not minutes or hours), but not $2,000 and a few processor generations new better like people here are treating Skylake as a 3000% performance boost.
Faster for gaming? Of course. I have a GTX 1080 and Windows. But my 2010 Mac Pro with a GTX 980 isn't that bad at gaming either.
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I have yet to see someone mention which computers out there have Skylake that suits the 15" rMBP. Same iGPU (except newer gen), same TDP. There is only one on the market that I know of.
Why would it have to accomodate the 15" ?! This makes no sense, the laptop accomodate the chip, not the other way around !
Why would it have to accomodate the 15" ?! This makes no sense, the laptop accomodate the chip, not the other way around !
So you would prefer a crappy 15" rMBP even if it has Skylake? Wow, okay.
I literally don't follow you anymore. You say there is only one processor which would fit the current MBP, which is the reverse of how things normally happen :
Intel announce a serie of chips with possibilities & requirements, manufacturers create laptops & motherboards which accomodates them.
I know when it comes the the Apple world everyone wants to be a special flower, but Intel doesn't make its serie with, in mind "oh yeah we should have that one that fits the current MBP 15", just in case Apple want us in their laptops !".
Anyway, if you're happy by all mean enjoy, but there are good reasons to be pissed by the whole thing. It's like many people are saying it just because they don't like apples (but buy them anyway).
And you don't seem to react about all the other abuse (USB3.0, HDMI etc) which follow the same pattern : screw the customers by offering the strict minimum of cheap hardware, that they'll buy at a very high price.
Side note : For reasons I won't detail (boring), today I had to deal with a not so recent HP, and Outlook.
Dear God, the horror. Trackpad madness and this
Why has it taken the PC industry so long to make a decent trackpad, only now are they starting to roll out with decent models.
