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Source Claims Hands-On Experience with iPhone 5 Prototype
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The dock licensing is the only thing keeping apple dedicated to that stupid port. micro usb is just as good... but a micro thunderbolt port would be the tits.
Remember the OLED videos from a few years ago with people smashing them with hammers and bending them and they wont break?
Fiscally speaking it would be really stupid for them to sell a waterproof, unbreakable phone (when they're at least $700 to replace).
The iPhone 6 better be a flexible polymer I can just stitch to my arm.
Oh there are nanobots that run on blood... create a tiny blood dam in your forearm and never plug your phone in again. Not to mention wireless charging and sh#t... All of these technologies alone mean nothing, so they aren't getting advanced. When combined, we could be living in a Jetsons world in a years time.
Too bad companies care more about suing each other than making better Sh17.
Screen size highlights more "pragmatic" concerns...
It appears to me that the concerns of which Jobs spoke were much more "pragmatic" in nature. As a marketing genius of note, it's likely that he was merely worried that by increasing the screen size of the iPhone (and, hence, the iPhone itself), Apple would be undercutting the sales/profits of it's iPad products. As the form factor size of the two distinct products become more similar, a prospective customer is more likely to choose one OR the other, not BOTH.
With the coming of the new Apple TV (not to be confused with the currently available television box that has heretofore been less than successful), it's likely that both the iPhone & iPad will become increasingly important interfaces for our televisions, and by extension, our lives. From the corporate Apple perspective, it's imperative that both product lines remain independently relevant... and profitable!
Does any of this make any sense to anybody else? (Or, am I just a crazy dreamer...?!)
It appears to me that the concerns of which Jobs spoke were much more "pragmatic" in nature. As a marketing genius of note, it's likely that he was merely worried that by increasing the screen size of the iPhone (and, hence, the iPhone itself), Apple would be undercutting the sales/profits of it's iPad products. As the form factor size of the two distinct products become more similar, a prospective customer is more likely to choose one OR the other, not BOTH. With the coming of the new Apple TV (not to be confused with the currently available television box that has heretofore been less than successful), it's likely that both the iPhone & iPad will become increasingly important interfaces for our televisions, and by extension, our lives. From the corporate Apple perspective, it's imperative that both product lines remain independently relevant... and profitable! Does any of this make any sense to anybody else? (Or, am I just a crazy dreamer...?!)Yes, I agree. Totally. You stated all the reasons why WP7 became the smash hit it is today.
This is false in my opinion.
There's no way on earth they'd have released the iPhone 4S (aka "5") with faster hardware (aka "A6") than what they did. This may, however, be a prototype device for next year, but the iPad 3 will be the first iDevice to get the A6. The part of "poor battery life" is ridiculous, the A6 would very likely improve battery life, not decrease it.
Additionally I don't see how a larger screen would fragment the iOS ecosystem. There's only one definite thing I know of which can fragment the iOS ecosystem and that's changing the resolution to something other than 1440x960 which is the next step after 960x640. And in my opinion there's no reason for them to need to increase the resolution past 960x640 at 4 inches, which would be 288 PPI. However perhaps Steve Jobs did have a problem with having less than 330 PPI and I don't think 1440x960 is possible yet on a 4 inch display.
I did however have another thought, using a 960x640 resolution on a 4 inch screen may not be desirable because it would cause content to appear larger than on the 3.5 inch iPhone. Perhaps developers would use smaller elements on the 4 inch iPhone without thinking that they might be too small on the 3.5 inch iPhone. This is however, very unlikely to be a problem, in my opinion.
If they have any smarts, they will. All they need to do is cram the 9" pixels into a 7" screen, re-use components used elsewhere (ipod is the cheapest i'd assume), and fit as large a battery as possible in there, while maintaining some form of balance.
we call it... the iPadfone, err.. the iTab, err... **** off!
Yeah, you have no idea how statistics work. It's cute to see you flailing your arms, though.
A lot of geeks will be upset. The public in general will say "AWESOME", then make it the best selling phone in history. Once again.
PCMag and CNET. Two mainstream sites, for sure.
Nope. Just not true.
Wow. Not a programmer, are you?
Very popular. Except for, you know, the #1 and #2 most popular phones in the world. But, uh, other than that, spot on.
You should look up the wiring spec on the dock connector. Then, assuming you understand what it means, come back here with your tail between your legs.
Wrong, Jobs allways said it's better to cannibalize your own products before another company does
Yeah, you have no idea how statistics work. It's cute to see you flailing your arms, though.
A lot of geeks will be upset. The public in general will say "AWESOME", then make it the best selling phone in history. Once again.
PCMag and CNET. Two mainstream sites, for sure.
Nope. Just not true.
Wow. Not a programmer, are you?
Very popular. Except for, you know, the #1 and #2 most popular phones in the world. But, uh, other than that, spot on.
You should look up the wiring spec on the dock connector. Then, assuming you understand what it means, come back here with your tail between your legs.
Correlation does not imply Causation. In buying an iPhone, you buy an iPhone. I feel quite confident saying that 95% of the customers would do the same purchase regardless if the screen was 3.4, 3.7 or 4".
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a.k.a. creative destruction.
Why mess with something that's not broke?
3.5 inch screen is perfect and nothing about the designs people have rendered will get me to wanting one.
I say leave it the same and just add an aluminum back to make it look more like it's Mac Air and Pro series.
3.5 inch screen is perfect and nothing about the designs people have rendered will get me to wanting one.
I say leave it the same and just add an aluminum back to make it look more like it's Mac Air and Pro series.
Not trying to imply causation. Simply countering the assertion that "3.5 screens aren't popular". Which is clearly untrue.
Agreed, and I've never heard one person in the real world tout screen size on their iPhone or Android device. It's always OS vs. OS. Most people don't care because the iPhone screen is big enough.
LOL! This actually made me laugh aloud.
Problem with a 2 GP camera though.. would be a bitch to stabilize, hah. Can you imagine? It's hard enough to keep a 14 MP "real" camera with stabilization features steady enough for a clear shot!
Quite the contrary actually. The majority of the consumers doesn't know or care which OS a phone uses. Of course, some of them goes for brands with proven track records like Apple but for those who simply want a phone to browse Facebook on, the physical aspects and the price point of the phone are the only thing they look at.
So yes, I could see a 4 inch iPhone would be good for those who loved large screens and would have otherwise went for an Android. Most Android screen sizes are at least 4 inches nowadays but still retain a similar form factor as that of the iPhone (thinner bezel). More choices are always good.
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I'm with Steve, don't make it larger. If I wanted a large phone I'd have bought the Galaxy S II.
I'm with Steve, don't make it larger. If I wanted a large phone I'd have bought the Galaxy S II.
There's an argument going on here, about a rumour about a device that never saw the light of day, possibly never existed in the first place, and that even if it did will only be released a year from now, without any guarantee about what it will look like.
The 4s is About Cheapness
From many sources I don't have time to go back and find (but well known here) we know Apple is prototyping many future models at one time. Of course they would try a 4" one out, and I even can buy that a major concern was battery life--how could it not be a concern if we're talking A5, a larger screen, AND less room for a battery? Battery was likely a major concern. Nonetheless, the whole 4s design just reeks of big company saving money.
The chief advantages of the 4s is bringing production costs down sharply. They go with the new CDMA/GSM radio and antenna solution, so now they set themselves to be making only iPhone 4 device in the future. The only other hardware change was a new Sony image sensor, to let them do 1080p hd video. But, these are very minor changes that cost Apple little now and will bring down production costs/increase profits over the lifetime of the 4s.
You may be wondering who cares? Well, Apple cares a lot if you've been noticing where much of their attention has really been focused of late...China and the East. They need to sell a phone for much less over there and not take a loss. The iPhone is just a ticket to iTunes, the App Store, and whatever other content Apple is licensed to sell. They want iPhones in the hands of emerging markets, and they want to beat Samsung (responsible for much of the actual iPhone's expensive hardware).
This is why we have an unchanged form factor this year. Apple didn't want to put out another small screen, it was simply the most economical since they weren't worried about US/Western sales.
Heck, they bought an App (Siri) already available, killed the functionality on existing phones, then used it for an ad campaign. --Truly a low for Apple imho. ...But that's what happens when you don't change anything but a camera and stick in a a processor that eats more battery than the last one with little advantage...you need something to sell that.
But, finally, just to address this nonsense about Apple caring about fragmentation. Pick up an iPad. Most apps are crap compared to their iPhone counterparts, the low pixel density is far more pronounced than on the 3Gs, and they still have no problem selling you an iPhone app and surrounding it with inches of black to keep the same UI. Why would Apple allow bad apps, ugly apps, or apps that are visually sandboxed by inches of black otherwise?
From many sources I don't have time to go back and find (but well known here) we know Apple is prototyping many future models at one time. Of course they would try a 4" one out, and I even can buy that a major concern was battery life--how could it not be a concern if we're talking A5, a larger screen, AND less room for a battery? Battery was likely a major concern. Nonetheless, the whole 4s design just reeks of big company saving money.
The chief advantages of the 4s is bringing production costs down sharply. They go with the new CDMA/GSM radio and antenna solution, so now they set themselves to be making only iPhone 4 device in the future. The only other hardware change was a new Sony image sensor, to let them do 1080p hd video. But, these are very minor changes that cost Apple little now and will bring down production costs/increase profits over the lifetime of the 4s.
You may be wondering who cares? Well, Apple cares a lot if you've been noticing where much of their attention has really been focused of late...China and the East. They need to sell a phone for much less over there and not take a loss. The iPhone is just a ticket to iTunes, the App Store, and whatever other content Apple is licensed to sell. They want iPhones in the hands of emerging markets, and they want to beat Samsung (responsible for much of the actual iPhone's expensive hardware).
This is why we have an unchanged form factor this year. Apple didn't want to put out another small screen, it was simply the most economical since they weren't worried about US/Western sales.
Heck, they bought an App (Siri) already available, killed the functionality on existing phones, then used it for an ad campaign. --Truly a low for Apple imho. ...But that's what happens when you don't change anything but a camera and stick in a a processor that eats more battery than the last one with little advantage...you need something to sell that.
But, finally, just to address this nonsense about Apple caring about fragmentation. Pick up an iPad. Most apps are crap compared to their iPhone counterparts, the low pixel density is far more pronounced than on the 3Gs, and they still have no problem selling you an iPhone app and surrounding it with inches of black to keep the same UI. Why would Apple allow bad apps, ugly apps, or apps that are visually sandboxed by inches of black otherwise?
You have no idea what you're talking about.
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You have no idea what you're talking about.
here's a tip... next time, take a statistics class before you post so you don't look like a fool.