Spec Sheet Shows iPhone 7 Plus With 256GB Storage and Lightning EarPods

[Steve121178]

I can see you love moaning that much you've resorted to making things up in order to moan about them.
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Phone --> Computer --> Headphones

Problem solved. Next.

At a lot of corporate places you can't use your work computer for personal things, so it's not solved. Some people just use terminals and use virtual desktops, so even the USB ports on their terminals are disabled via policy. Get in the real world and you'll see why this is an issue for many people.

 

[flexiboy]

Why not leave the adapter attached to the cord you are already carrying around?

Because I don't have to now and gain nothing by them dropping it apart from something else to stuff in my pocket.


This is change for changes sake and will piss a lot of people off.

 

[Steve121178]

Sooo does this mean the standard model with start at 32 g?

32/128/256 options.

 

[doelcm82]

What's the compelling reason for getting rid of it? With optical, it took up a lot of space and wouldn't fit in ultra thin laptops. This iPhone doesn't seem to be thinner than, say, iPod touch. So why?

It takes valuable space inside the phone. It's one more opening into the phone that needs to be protected against water damage (which also takes up valuable space). Apple may have additional reasons that they find compelling.

 

[KdParker]

You made my day!

I hope they'll include bluetooth EarPods, but a lighting version is ok too. As a matter of fact I prefer wired headphones since I don't have to bother about charging them, but sometimes I take calls while charging my iPhone and I won't be able to to that.
As for the adapter we'll see next week, it would be a bonus since Apple's adapters are usually expensive.
As for the 256GB option it is a good news if they just double the storage, so 32GB 128GB and 256GB at the same price

Charging your phone and listening will not be a possiblilty anymore if this is true.
Guess we will have to wait and see.

 

[Kiwikat88]

But your use case is via third party products and using Apple's products in a way they were not intended. If the third party Lightning headphone makers had thought this through, charging and listening would not necessarily be a problem. The same is true for your external DAC kit.

Apple is introducing an integrated product, likely with new MFi specs. They're not the kind of company to overlook this problem which is simply solved. This is all it would take -- reverse this and there's you're solution -- headphones plug right into the passthrough port on the power cable:

Maybe they'll release a new daisy-chainable CCK then... but probably not. Wireless charging seems like a plausible solution to the problem. Daisy chaining doesn't seem like something apple would officially endorse.

 

[theyeoman16]

I can see you love moaning that much you've resorted to making things up in order to moan about them.
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Phone --> Computer --> Headphones

Problem solved. Next.

I can see you love moaning that much you've resorted to making things up in order to moan about them.
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Phone --> Computer --> Headphones

Problem solved. Next.

Again I work in corporate environment. Things such as spotify and pocketcasts (which i listen to most of the day) are blocked on my computer. And i'm not getting a new job if that is your next suggestion. Just because I am a different user of the iphone than you does not make me wrong.

 

[Mac 128]

Are Apple going to build a lightening port into the new Mac's?

They should have gotten rid of the lightening port and replaced it with USB-C instead.

Yes. And there are many benefits to doing so.

If they replaced Lightning with USBc, then I and half-a-billion iOS customers would have to throw out a 4 year investment into Lightning cables and accessories, and buy a whole new collection of USB-C cables and accessories, even though Apple is likely to go totally wireless in a few more years, by the time USBc is just starting to make a dent in the marketplace. Meanwhile, if I need to pick up a replacement USBc charging cable at 3AM, I'm not likely to find one at 7-11, the way I can find a Lightning cable now.

 

[Jsameds]

At a lot of corporate places you can't use your work computer for personal things, so it's not solved. Some people just use terminals and use virtual desktops, so even the USB ports on their terminals are disabled via policy. Get in the real world and you'll see why this is an issue for many people.

BT headset.

Problem solved. Next.

 

[jimbo1mcm]

In addition to the headphone adapter, Apple will also include a free 8x10 glossy of the new headquarters building.

 

[Keerock]

Yeah, Apple would never give a whole new name to something that is essentially the same phone.

I'll happily trade you my 5S for your 5SE. They are essentially the same right?

 

[Jsameds]

Again I work in corporate environment. Things such as spotify and pocketcasts (which i listen to most of the day) are blocked on my computer. And i'm not getting a new job if that is your next suggestion. Just because I am a different user of the iphone than you does not make me wrong.

Dock with a headphone jack.

Or BT headphones.

Or shift your charging patterns around a little.


Look guys this isn't hard...

 

[Munky]

At a lot of corporate places you can't use your work computer for personal things, so it's not solved. Some people just use terminals and use virtual desktops, so even the USB ports on their terminals are disabled via policy. Get in the real world and you'll see why this is an issue for many people.

LOL "real world". Why don't you get in the real world and buy a phone that is more suited to your needs. I don't go down to the local dealership and buy a Chevy Cobalt only to then complain that it doesn't come with a tow hitch and enough power to tow a trailer. I become sensible and buy a truck in the first place.

 

[KdParker]

Wireless charging would be an awesome surprise. Most likely will not happen IMHO.

 

[profets]

You can't say "wireless is the future, here are some wired headphones".
They have to claim "THESE wired headphones are better". Which is a harder case to make, since all it's really doing is moving the DAC to the other side of the plug.

Agreed. The wired headphones themselves won't be any better (unless they change something drastically, but still it would have been possible on 3.5). I almost feel like if there are AirPods coming and they want to push the wireless angle of it, that they should be bundled in the box.
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Disagree sorry , most people I see daily don't use the Apple ear pods. Quality rubbish so people but their own.

Do you honestly think anything less than 95% of iPhone users use something other than the bundled headphones? Being honest here - any guess as to what percentage have a different pair that they've bought?

 

[Nautilus007]

Since we decided to keep this years iPhone pretty much the same and remove the headphone jack, were going to bump basic storage to 32gb at no charge and also add a 256gb tier and charge you 999.99 full retail for the phone.

PURE INNOVATION
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Will there be one surprise at this event?

I doubt it, everything will look the same and it will just be spec upgrades. Maybe upgraded iPods?

 

[matjamca]

You must be new here.

Why would you think that?

 

[Mac 128]

Maybe they'll release a new daisy-chainable CCK then... but probably not. Wireless charging seems like a plausible solution to the problem. Daisy chaining doesn't seem like something apple would officially endorse.

Apple already offers passthrough ports on several adapters. The only difference here is the configuration of implementation. Lightning is a smart connector, so what can be daisy chained through it is completely controlled by Apple. Headphones, yes. Anything else? No.

My point is a passthrough is a simple way to solve this idiotic complaint that lightning headphones can't be used while the phone is being charged -- as if Apple never thought of this problem.

Another solution in the box would be adding a Lightning port to the charging cube. And then there's Lightning passthrough ports on larger headphones, to allow other users to daisey chain to listen to each other's music without a splitter, as well as charging both devices. And that's before even getting into adapters.

Here's the thing ... I hope there's wireless charging, but smart connector, charging mat, or true contactless wireless charging all require the presence of additional technology. There will need to be a Lightning method to address this problem regardless for when the wireless options are not available.

 

[Tom-Helge]

Yes. And there are many benefits to doing so.

If they replaced Lightning with USBc, then I and half-a-billion iOS customers would have to throw out a 4 year investment into Lightning cables and accessories, and buy a whole new collection of USB-C cables and accessories, even though Apple is likely to go totally wireless in a few more years, by the time USBc is just starting to make a dent in the marketplace. Meanwhile, if I need to pick up a replacement USBc charging cable at 3AM, I'm not likely to find one at 7-11, the way I can find a Lightning cable now.

Ehhh ok?

Just buy a freaking USB-C to Lightning adapter, and it's solved.

See?

It's will not be any harder for you guy to use an adapter than it will be for us others to use a Lightning to 3.5mm minijack adapter.

You can't just say HTFU and adapt to the adapter life when you doesn't even want to be a part of the adapter life yourself.

 

[KdParker]

Agreed. The wired headphones themselves won't be any better (unless they change something drastically, but still it would have been possible on 3.5). I almost feel like if there are AirPods coming and they want to push the wireless angle of it, that they should be bundled in the box.
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Do you honestly think anything less than 95% of iPhone users use something other than the bundled headphones? Being honest here - any guess as to what percentage have a different pair that they've bought?

Most people do use the ear buds, but they tend to breakdown after a year if you use them alot.

So I could see a need for different set of headphones, so they will just have to be bluetooth headphones now.

 

[Xultar]

How does this idiotic perception continue to be advanced?

Do you really think Apple hasn't given this a single thought?

This perceived problem is easily solved in the simplest way with a pass through plug on the charging cable. And there are many other ways Apple, or third parties could address it.



Yours is not a common use case. Apple designs for the largest common market. For you there's an adapter. all of your expensive headphones would cost more if they had digital interfaces, so for the larger customer base, they will always pay less for digital technology over lower cost 3.5mm tech.



Apple will get criticized for being greedy regardless.

Idiotic? WOW. Aren't you the wise one. All hail the wise one. You jumped into a conversation in the middle where I was clarifying to answer to a reply.

I did mention that they should introduce wireless charging when they removed the jack. Your solution, a pass trough is very simplistic is not a very 'Apple-esque' solution. Apple tends to go for ease and simplicity with minimalism. Plus the solution needs to look good and pass-throughs and adapters are very unattractive along with being bulky, cumbersome while opining apple up to cord issues.

Wireless charging addresses all the concerns and its attractive and simple. Third parties will for sure create truly wireless charging battery packs.

So before slinging insults after jumping in 1/2 way through a conversation do some legwork.

x

 

[ThomasM]

I use the headphone jack pretty much every day while charging the phone, i have a 1 hour drive +/- 10mins where i use it for music. It's not the end of the world, but either way it involves me getting an adapter just to use it for music (or buy a new car where i can use bluetooth..). Not to mention that it does drain the battery a decent amount.

In terms of the change itself, it feels a bit pointless. Especially given that it will simply force a very large number of people to buy adapters to be able to use their rather expensive headsets. I'm not planning on jumping from QC25 to QC35 just yet...

Oh and yeah, it's going to be extra amusing when they don't even offer the phone with wireless earpods

 

[Kiwikat88]

Most people do use the ear buds, but they tend to breakdown after a year if you use them a lot.

It is kind of a travesty that someone would spend many hundreds of dollars on a phone and then use crappy earbuds enough to break them. Spend a few bucks for some nice headphones, your ears will thank you and you'll enjoy your music a lot more.

 

[Mac 128]

Ehhh ok?

Just buy a freaking USB-C to Lightning adapter, and it's solved.

See?

It's will not be any harder for you guy to use an adapter than it will be for us others to use a Lightning to 3.5mm minijack adapter.

You can't just say HTFU and adapt to the adapter life when you doesn't even want to be a part of the adapter life yourself.

So you're advocating buying one adapter over another?

Hysterical.

I won't be affected by adapters, because I will be using native Lightning products and wireless headphones. Neither will many current iPhone users who never even plug in headphones.

I'd certainly rather not buy adapters for all of my Lightning equipment. If I have to buy a 3.5mm to Lightning adapter, it'll be one I might need on rare ocassion. You're advocating that not only those people who will buy adapters for their 3.5mm equipment, but also require them to buy all new Lightning cables, or adapters for them as well. That's insane. The turn over will be far worse for you if Apple chose that route.

And then for the next few years, you'd be in the same boat at 3AM if you need a new USBc cable -- out of luck.

 

[BulkSlash]

It's easy to tell this is a fake: "Lightning to Headphone Jack Adapter"