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If you look at the Apple Style Guide, headphone jack is perfectly acceptable

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As another user pointed out, Apple uses the term headphone jack a lot. It is on every Tech Specs page of a product with one.

My point is that I don't think Apple will call the adapter the "Lightning to Headphone Jack Adapter". That would be like calling the Lightning to 30-pin Adapter the "Lightning to 30-pin Port Adapter". The port - and jack - are superfluous.
 
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They'll win.

I appreciate it's one of the oldest port in audio but look at the 30-pin Connector. Everyone freaked out when they switched that for the Lightning Connector.

What functionality did we lose with the switch from 30-pin to Lightning?
 
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As another user pointed out, Apple uses the term headphone jack a lot. It is on every Tech Specs page of a product with one.

My point is that I don't think Apple will call the adapter the "Lightning to Headphone Jack Adapter". That would be like calling the Lightning to 30-pin Adapter the "Lightning to 30-pin Port Adapter". The port - and jack - are superfluous.

I think it's fair to say if the picture is in fact genuine it is entirely possible it is not the finished copy. We've all read instructions and guides that are way more dodgy than this.
 
Finally !!!!
I hate the 3.5 mm audio jack ... it's old and useless most of the time.

Here's the thing - if you don't like the headphone jack then right now with your current iPhone you can buy some crappy sounding BT headphones, or some proprietary lightning headphones. Meanwhile the 99.999999% of the rest of us will use wired headphones as they a) sound good, b) don't cost an insane amount, and c) work without batteries.

Options are glorious. Removing options is idiotic, especially when the option you choose to remove will greatly inconvenience virtually your entire user base.
 
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Aha great.. so those few millimeters better be shaved off, because you know, the phone is HUGE. :rolleyes:
Better leave it like that and not decrease the battery capacity even further. Yes I know it's the same old same old, but it's true.
 
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I'm glad to see Apple is providing an adapter as it appears. The 3.5 jack will be missed, but at least I still have a loop hole to my current headphones.

Still looking forward to the iPhone 7.
 
True video out.

Analogue audio out without separate DAC.


Yeah, the loss of analog video output sucked, but the 1/8" audio jack is used by far more people and it is used on the move, when dongle adapters are clumsy. Video output is usually used in one place, so an adapter isn't as burdensome.

I'd like to see iDevices move to USB-C since Apple could use it for video output without expensive adapters. It would also have the side benefit of imposing a greater minimum thickness for iDevices than the Lightning port. Of course the main benefit is that it will be an ubiquitous standard and peripherals could be shared between iDevices and Android devices.

I hope some day in the not so distant future Apple's dwindling user base will force them to adopt industry standards again. They are a better company with a fire under their arses.
 
Without a good codec (aptX or something better), there is no future in wireless sound via Bluetooth on iPhones. The reason Apple doesn't use aptX is because of a licence fee that Apple doesn't want to pay for that, just because the massive profits are more important than acutally using something good and usefull.

Sony use their own codec (gaming voice optimized) for their BT headsets on the PlayStations. And I think it does sound much better than the standard BT headsets. Of course, it only works when you pair a PlayStation (3 or higher) and a Sony BT gaming headset, and I believe rather than pairing in the normal BT fashion, you just have to plug them together quickly by USB, that makes it all automatic.

My point is that companies can use their own proprietary stuff over BT, if it serves them. And we know from history that Apple is a company that doesn't mind going proprietary to drive innovation (well, actually as you point out, to serve their own needs).
 
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If BT audio is the future then we are in for one seriously dystopian future.

If an iPhone could pair with multiple devices at once then that may at least be considered an advantage. But it cannot. If you're listening to music, you cannot pair a BT keyboard to your phone. You can't pair it to your car. And the BT connection will drop out from time to time, because BT sucks.
I thought the iPhone can carry on two BT connections? I routinely have my watch and some other connection going (car, ear phones, or satellite speaker).
 
More importantly, it even mentions lightning to 3.5mm included in the box. I think it's excellent for users if Apple does include it, but I think it's a mistake for Apple as it shows there's a need for 3.5mm still and they've removed it.

I know quite a few people here chime in with every new product announcement screaming "I WILL NOT BUY IT BECAUSE OF THIS 1 MISSING FEATURE"....and I thought I would never say it, but I am joining that body of people. I need the 3.5mm jack and no, I'm not attaching some adapter/dongle to it so it will stick out a few inches (and likely snap off and cost me $200 to fix). Even the physical aspect of the adapter aside, I don't need some brand spanking new version 1.0 technology, that isn't even a standard, being shoved down my throat while the existing technology of over 40 years works fine and works on literally tens of billions of devices. Not to mention the DRM aspects down the road.

I have an iPhone 4S and was finally going to plunk down my money and get a new 7 but not if the 3.5mm jack is gone. I'll look at (and baring any issue porting over my 7,000+ song library on the iPhone) Samsung.
 
To charge, or to use my headphones... Ah, the dilemma, brought to you by Apple. Innovation at its' best!

Really? How often are you using headphones and charging your phone at the same time? Most people are walking around and listening to their headphones, then charge their phones are night while doing something else.
 
I'm definitely going in on the 256GB model.

The iPhone 7 is going to be a truly incredible device. I'm so excited!!!

As an Apple person and someone who has had every iPhone from the 3G on -- Keep telling yourself that. Lol

iPhone 7 is going to be nice but not a "truly incredible device". iOS10 is good but not "great". I don't anticipate the iPhone 7 being amazing either. Camera update, storage, memory update. That's about it.
 
I thought the iPhone can carry on two BT connections? I routinely have my watch and some other connection going (car, ear phones, or satellite speaker).

Hmmm, I'll have to look into that. A friend of mine complains that when using BT headphones they always cut out when her phone tries to pair to her car. Or her iPhone's pairing with her car is lost when her iPhone tries to pair with her headphones. The latter is probably because she forgets to turn off the headphones, but still, what a mess!

Another thing I hate about BT is that I can't share a BT keyboard between my iPhone and Nexus 7 without re-pairing each time I switch. IMO a cable would be ten times easier. I know there's keyboards with memories for multiple BT pairings but reviews on the ones I looked at pretty much agreed that the multiple pairings switch often didn't work.
 
Time to coordinate your talking points, fanboy.

The fact you trawled through the posts is kinda sad.

Trust me, they'll win.
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Time to coordinate your talking points, fanboy.

That was in regards to including an adapter anyway.

Within a few months, people will have forgotten about it all.

Time to coordinate your talking points, fanboi.
 
As an Apple person and someone who has had every iPhone from the 3G on -- Keep telling yourself that. Lol

iPhone 7 is going to be nice but not a "truly incredible device". iOS10 is good but not "great". I don't anticipate the iPhone 7 being amazing either. Camera update, storage, memory update. That's about it.

I'm cautiously optimistic about the camera. I want to believe the LinX technology will bring back the days when the iPhone camera was the ultimate phone cam on the market. If so then I'll get one in Dec or Jan after the manufacturing bugs are worked out.

I had my hearing ruined a few years back by a prescription NSAID, so the loss of the audio jack doesn't matter to me. Well it matters that it doesn't matter to me, but it's absence still doesn't matter to me, if that make sense, lol.
 
Still a brand new phone, casing is different, internals are different, improvements to speakers, screen, and home button to be expected. Performance increase should be significant, probably specific software features as well. At some point, we'll just have a screen, the casing won't even matter.

That's how I see it as well. A lot of smaller features you already listed that add up to make a difference. I can look past the complaints regrading the antenna bands and protruding camera. Personally, there is enough for me to upgrade.
 
32>128>256 but the jump from 32>128 will be $150. Apple can say to 64GB owners you get 2x the storage for only $50. Anything to raise those ASPs.
I guess the iPhone 6s will be available in just 16gb and 64 gb after the iPhone 7.
With the 64gb 6s being the same price as the 7 32gb, and the 6s 16gb 100$ cheaper than the 32gb 7.
 
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