Spec Sheet Shows iPhone 7 Plus With 256GB Storage and Lightning EarPods

[KmanOz]

Dongles are useless for iPhone. You can only use them when the phone is in your hand or on the table. Not when you're moving around - unless you buy a new backpack "Made for iPhone" to prevent the lightning connector from breaking the moment you bend it slightly in the wrong way.

As much as I am pro lightning connector sans headphone jack, this is probably the most compelling argument I have read against it. It's gonna be interesting to see how that pans out. Mechanical issues that constantly break or damage the phone / headphones could become a massive issue for people.

 

[Chicane-UK]

As much as I am pro lightning connector sans headphone jack, this is probably the most compelling argument I have read against it. It's gonna be interesting to see how that pans out. Mechanical issues that constantly break or damage the phone / headphones could become a massive issue for people.

Not sure if there's technical limitations on the design of a lightning connector, that dictates how close the 'tech' that lives in the plug has to be to the connector. Wonder if they could redesign it so that there is just flexible cable straight out the bottom of the lightning port and put the tech bits that normally lives in the hard plastic casing just above the socket, further up the dongle, all integrated with the connector where the 3.5mm headphone jack is too - meaning there's nothing to actually break down at the bottom. Perhaps just a small plastic lip to help secure the connector into the port and nothing more.

 

[KmanOz]

Wonder if they could redesign it so that there is just flexible cable straight out the bottom of the lightning port and put the tech bits that normally lives in the hard plastic casing just above the socket, further up the dongle, all integrated with the connector where the 3.5mm headphone jack is too - meaning there's nothing to actually break down at the bottom.

Yeah basically a fatter version of the current microphone volume rocker bump.

 

[Nuvi]

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Maybe your mind is already blown if you didn't think of this simple solution:

Apple includes one new charging cable in the box and the problem is solved. Go figure.

Oooh... how pretty dongles. This design language leaves me gasping for air. Seriously, this stuff is hideous. Dongles and adapters should be illegal. But hey, at least the phone will be a fraction of millimeter thinner...
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But it's hardly a reason to stop progress

What progress? You mean regression to phones which had proprietary headphone jacks.

 

[KmanOz]

Have a look at this.

 

[Jimrod]

1) The one of the left is cheaper and easier to produced as already noted.
2) The one on the right is far more comfortable in use

WillyWonka.jpg Please tell me again how the beancounter is ruining Apple.

1) What are the production costs of each, since you and the other guy obviously know? The original was always touted as being liquid metal (I don't know if correct), the second is a piece of wire.

2) More comfortable? Not really, you use the tool once or twice, it's not a factor, it's about perceived quality.

(Just for reference - my previous post which we were talking about)

 

[skinned66]

the head-tethered-to-a-wall use case.

It's not an umbilical. People can get up and leave their phones at their desks or unplug them and take it with them. Imagine. You almost sound as bad as the audio consumption use case for all of humanity, Jsameds.

 

[kentsydney]

Some people don't care and for the people who do, get over it, it's happening. It's an old port, so what? Apple certainly don't care. How are you (we) supposed to move forward if the same technology is used over and over again?

I hope you're right. I admit I'm an unashamed Apple fan boy. If it wasn't for Apple we'd still be lost in Nokia menus. I've had nearly every iPhone released and currently we ( my wife and I)have two iPads two iMacs and two iPhones . I'll never go android as I think it's not secure enough.

BUT Apple is lagging behind in the hardware,

I will watch the keynote with baited breath and hope they pull something out of the hat

 

[Burger Thing]

How could I possibly understand, using Macs for 30 years. I bow to your wisdom, master of... an internet forum. Please link us to your Gofundme page so we can all fork over cash for your brightly colored vaporware.

Don't worry about this guy. He posted so much nonsense and has insulted other forum members along the way and has tanked literally very thread about the headphone jack.

Just put him on ignore and call it a day.

 

[DNichter]

That's how I see it as well. A lot of smaller features you already listed that add up to make a difference. I can look past the complaints regrading the antenna bands and protruding camera. Personally, there is enough for me to upgrade.

It's been the same thing for a while now. In my eyes, the only real advancements hardware wise besides more power have been the retina screen and touch ID.

 

[Mac 128]

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Oooh... how pretty dongles. This design language leaves me gasping for air. Seriously, this stuff is hideous. Dongles and adapters should be illegal. But hey, at least the phone will be a fraction of millimeter thinner...
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What progress? You mean regression to phones which had proprietary headphone jacks.

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1. Those aren't dongles, they're cables with pass through connectors. Just like the charging cable that Apple will include in he box, you know the one you have to have to charge your iPhone. But don't let that stop you from beating your strawman.

2. And thanks for posting your troll photo illustrating another strawman point of yours. In case you missed it, with the Nokia and other phones that required a headphone adapter, there was no other choice. Apple offers at least two other choices -- wireless, of which BT is a current and popular headphone standard, and Lightning which can directly utilize a Lightning equipped cable attached to any set of headphones with a detachable cable, and will likely be the defacto standard for wired digital audio on all of Apple's products. Or you can buy an adapter to use your old headphones. But it's your choice.

 

[Essenar]

Base model: 16GB.
16GB, 128GB, 256GB.

 

[kyleh22]

And how do you know that?

Because Apple has never release an adapter in a box. There is too much revenue to be made selling it separately. It would be a terrible business move which the second most valuable company in the world just wouldn't make.

Releasing lightning headphones and lightning to 3.5mm is opening the door for customer's to use their own headphones. It is better for apple if more people use there signature white headphones that are ultra recognizable.

Not to mention including an adapter in the box is admitting that it's to soon to remove a 3.5mm port from phones.

 

[Jakexb]

It's easy to tell this is a fake: "Lightning to Headphone Jack Adapter"

Ha, didn't notice that. You're right, you're never going to see "Headphone Jack" in Apple's materials.

 

[superboss]

http://www.goingsolar.co.za/uploads/iphone7-2.mp4

There you go, Airpods in box

 

[jigzaw]

Proprietary headphone jack built into the charger is not user-friendly. I'd need to start carrying two pairs of headphones, one for my phone and one for my macbook. Not to mention the inability to charge and use headphones at the same time. This is NOT comparable to when they switched from the old charger to Lightning because it was always a proprietary charger anyway and it didn't remove functionality. Removing the universal headphone jack that everybody uses on virtually all electronic devices removes functionality. It's an utter fail.

Is it a dealbreaker in the long run? No, because there is no way in hell I would use an Android phone, but I'm definitely skipping this year's iPhone since there is really nothing to see here except a nicer camera and this user-unfriendly decision to make an already slippery and super-thin phone even super-thinnier and lacking the ability to be used with 99.999 percent of headphones that already exist. Another year with my killer Klipsh earbuds still being usable on my phone sounds good to me. Next year I'll have to reassess, but this decision makes me want to make my 6S Plus last as long as possible.

 

[Jimrod]

Proprietary headphone jack built into the charger is not user-friendly. I'd need to start carrying two pairs of headphones, one for my phone and one for my macbook. Not to mention the inability to charge and use headphones at the same time. This is NOT comparable to when they switched from the old charger to Lightning because it was always a proprietary charger anyway and it didn't remove functionality. Removing the universal headphone jack that everybody uses on virtually all electronic devices removes functionality. It's an utter fail.

Is it a dealbreaker in the long run? No, because there is no way in hell I would use an Android phone, but I'm definitely skipping this year's iPhone since there is really nothing to see here except a nicer camera and this user-unfriendly decision to make an already slippery and super-thin phone even super-thinnier and lacking the ability to be used with 99.999 percent of headphones that already exist. Another year with my killer Klipsh earbuds still being usable on my phone sounds good to me. Next year I'll have to reassess, but this decision makes me want to make my 6S Plus last as long as possible.

I'm due my upgrade and this decision to remove the 3.5mm jack made me just change my iPhone 6 for an SE rather than the 7. Apple still get my money but less of it. If my iPhone 6 hadn't developed some big battery issues (seemingly a common problem now) I'd have just stuck with it. The SE however is a great device and I hope if Apple do bother to actually try with the iPhone "8" that they again offer a smaller version.

 

[bobob]

I'm due my upgrade and this decision to remove the 3.5mm jack made me just change my iPhone 6 for an SE rather than the 7.

The SE will cost the same price next Wednesday - - this is a wasted opportunity cost, compared to receiving the full scope of information on which to base a buying decision in just 5 days. (Unless you just did it to make a statement.)

 

[Abazigal]

1) What are the production costs of each, since you and the other guy obviously know? The original was always touted as being liquid metal (I don't know if correct), the second is a piece of wire.

2) More comfortable? Not really, you use the tool once or twice, it's not a factor, it's about perceived quality.

(Just for reference - my previous post which we were talking about)

I don't know about you, but the sim tray ejector that came with my 6S+ resembled the Steve Job's model rather than the Tim Cook's model.

From what I can see, having owned 3 iPhones (4s, 5s, 6S+), the sim ejector has remained unchanged. So I am not sure what you are talking about.

 

[Gudi]

I'll happily trade you my 5S for your 5SE. They are essentially the same right?

But iPhones are judged by their outer appearance! Especially when they deserve a whole new name or number.

 

[Jimrod]

I don't know about you, but the sim tray ejector that came with my 6S+ resembled the Steve Job's model rather than the Tim Cook's model.

From what I can see, having owned 3 iPhones (4s, 5s, 6S+), the sim ejector has remained unchanged. So I am not sure what you are talking about.

The one that came with my SE, the latest iPhone, is the "Tim Cook" version. I've had the 3G, 4, 5 and 6 previously with the "Steve Jobs" SIM tray ejector - I made that Jpeg with one of the previous tools because I was disappointed with the one I just received.

 

[BMcCoy]

Another packaging pic surfaces, bit this time says the box contains "AirPods"...

Latest alleged 'iPhone 7 Plus' packaging pic suggests option of bundled wireless 'AirPods'

 

[Jimrod]

The SE will cost the same price next Wednesday - - this is a wasted opportunity cost, compared to receiving the full scope of information on which to base a buying decision in just 5 days. (Unless you just did it to make a statement.)

I've seen all the leaks, for the last few years they've been bang on within a few months of launch, I know many here like to think they're always false and we should wait and see but I know what the iPhone 7 will offer and aside from a better camera, slightly faster processor and slightly better battery there doesn't seem to be much else.

My iPhone 6 was dying as soon as I got below 42% or so battery, becoming very flaky and unreliable as well as just losing power far quicker than it used to. It seems a common problem (perhaps even planned obsolescence if I were to put my tin foil hat on...) in the tech section. Incidentally all my older iPhones still function perfectly well, this problem seems unique to the 6. So I needed a new phone and I use the headphone jack a lot for work (I design speakers, including Bluetooth models etc that have 3.5mm inputs) so it's not something I wanted to lose for the sake of it or so Apple can make a phone 0.1mm thinner, flog more Bluetooth headsets etc. I didn't like the size and shape of the 6 much, it's a bit awkward and slippery in-hand, again the 7 doesn't seem to be rectifying that so the SE was again a preferable choice for me.

The SE is a great phone so far, I'm glad I bought it - it's possible I'll regret it if there's something amazing about the 7 that everyone's missed, I almost hope I do because Apple aren't impressing me much lately where other companies seem to be forging ahead both technically and now with design as well. In my opinion of course.

The final point for me was that I could get £290 for my iPhone 6 from a standard electronics recycling site, I very much doubt that will be the case once the 7 is announced!

 

[recoil80]

Another packaging pic surfaces, bit this time says the box contains "AirPods"...

Latest alleged 'iPhone 7 Plus' packaging pic suggests option of bundled wireless 'AirPods'

I wonder if both pics are legitimate.
If so it means they may give customers a choice for the bundled headphones. But that doubles the number of iPhone models they have.
2 screen sizes, at least 4 colours, 3 storage tiers means 24 combinations. If they give choice between bluetooth and lighting earpods they have 48 different combinations, too many. It is something they experienced with Watch last year, but they sell millions of iPhones in the first week so it is a similar problem on a huge scale.
Maybe that's the reason why they prefer the online order with in store pickup, if they really give choice on the earpods is going to be hard to find the particular model you want at day one.

 

[Roller]

I wonder if both pics are legitimate.
If so it means they may give customers a choice for the bundled headphones. But that doubles the number of iPhone models they have.
2 screen sizes, at least 4 colours, 3 storage tiers means 24 combinations. If they give choice between bluetooth and lighting earpods they have 48 different combinations, too many. It is something they experienced with Watch last year, but they sell millions of iPhones in the first week so it is a similar problem on a huge scale.
Maybe that's the reason why they prefer the online order with in store pickup, if they really give choice on the earpods is going to be hard to find the particular model you want at day one.

True, offering both would complicate things. Although Apple does offer options for Macs (different combinations of mouse and keyboard, for example), the numbers for iPhones are much higher. I guess we'll know soon.