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i'm surprised this is two pages long. specs don't matter.

performance matters.

and specs create performance. Why do you think 4G is faster than 3G? Why do you think bigger screens are better for viewing than little screens? I'm not sure if serious ?
 
It would be like someone saying a 1989 Mustang GT can take a 2007 Corvette. Look under the hood and get a clue. If you're stuck with the Mustang great, but don't discredit the Corvette because you don't have one.

Proof that the experience is what matters.

One of the most expensive cars sold, 1957 Ferrari - sold for more than $16M. By contrast - an Enzo Ferrari will beat the bag out of the 1957 in every aspect of its performance. Yet these sell for a meager $1M an auction. The person who bid on the 1957 was after an experience.

This should prove that there is more to the overall experience than the threshold of what technology has to offer.

No?
 
Proof that the experience is what matters.

One of the most expensive cars sold, 1957 Ferrari - sold for more than $16M. By contrast - an Enzo Ferrari will beat the bag out of the 1957 in every aspect of its performance. Yet these sell for a meager $1M an auction. The person who bid on the 1957 was after an experience.

This should prove that there is more to the overall experience than the threshold of what technology has to offer.

No?

But the 1957 Ferrari isn't claiming to be faster than the Enzo Ferrari is it? It's just a rare car and more valuable to a collector. They aren't comparing it's specs to be a performance beast, totally different here.

When it comes to phones performance and specs matter however.. Neither phone is a collector item and it's purpose as an automobile serves a difference purpose than todays phones, people want bigger, faster, and that's what they are getting. Specs man Specs
 
and specs create performance. Why do you think 4G is faster than 3G? Why do you think bigger screens are better for viewing than little screens? I'm not sure if serious ?

Not really, efficiency does matters too, what good a Xeon CPU if you use it for surfing, twitter, chatting? :eek:

Android may have bigger numbers on spec sheet, but I still don't see their OS was able to utilize all of them. Sliding is still laggy, user experience is not as smooth as iOS.

iPhone 4s battery life is bad, but apparently Android do it worse, even on their bigger phones, which means they should include a bigger battery in there.

To me, iOS can use all its hardware better and more efficiently.
 
For specs to be worthwhile they must be understood, in combination with the hardware and software.

For example, an 800MHZ dual core processor could outperform a 1.2GHZ dual processor.
 
Specifications certainly matter, which is why Apple greatly improved the CPU, GPU, camera, and antenna in the iPhone 4S vs. the iPhone 4. However, the "best" phone for any given user isn't necessarily the one that has the "highest" specs in every category. Perhaps Apple could have over-clocked the CPU in the iPhone 4S to 1.2GHz to "match" the Galaxy Nexus, but if it would have meant that the battery drains even faster, or the phone runs hotter, with no appreciable difference to the target user, should they do so just to check off a box on a spec sheet?

The better manufacturers in lots of industries realize that the whole is greater than the sum of its parts. That's why cars such as Lexus or BMW rarely top the "specs" but consistently score highly in comparison tests and sell well. Apple concentrates on the specs that their users will actually care about.
 
What a bogus argument. EVERY company improves upon a product over a given cycle. Every company does it.

The point of this here is that Android people (akin to Windows people of days gone by) brag about specs. Which is pointless, imho. Who cares abot 1.0 vs 1.1 or 1.2 ghz that or this or whatever. Android is a pos OS and has ****** apps, just like WP7. Yes, Android users can customize their weather widgets, but iPhone users use their devices.
 
Using a car analogy, specs are the engine and software is the car body/cabin. Your going to enjoy driving a Mazda with 100 hp over a tractor with 500 hp. But the same Mazda with a hp bump to 200 will be even better. So specs do matter, but the software needs to be designed in a was to get the most of those specs.
 
Using a car analogy, specs are the engine and software is the car body/cabin. Your going to enjoy driving a Mazda with 100 hp over a tractor with 500 hp. But the same Mazda with a hp bump to 200 will be even better. So specs do matter, but the software needs to be designed in a was to get the most of those specs.

I would think the software would be more like the tuning
 
Using a car analogy, specs are the engine and software is the car body/cabin. Your going to enjoy driving a Mazda with 100 hp over a tractor with 500 hp. But the same Mazda with a hp bump to 200 will be even better. So specs do matter, but the software needs to be designed in a was to get the most of those specs.

Isn't a car and a tractor Apples and Oranges? Isn't one for transportation and the other for farming and doing work? And isn't iPhone and Android very much the same purpose?
 
What a bogus argument. EVERY company improves upon a product over a given cycle. Every company does it.

The point of this here is that Android people (akin to Windows people of days gone by) brag about specs. Which is pointless, imho. Who cares abot 1.0 vs 1.1 or 1.2 ghz that or this or whatever. Android is a pos OS and has ****** apps, just like WP7. Yes, Android users can customize their weather widgets, but iPhone users use their devices.

wow. what an itroll. and you are the reason why IOS users get bad rap
 
Check the Post right below this one...Things many of the Specs don't matter People overlook. Common sense? perhaps.
 
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Example. Looks to me these are important things to look at before making a purchase, would you buy a new $50,000 sports car before looking at the specs on another $50,000 sports car? I wouldn't.. See what you're getting for your hard earned coin. You buy blind? Just because a company says they are the best, don't take their word on it every time. be a consumer and look into it for yourself using your own mind.

What if you want a bigger screen? Longer talk time? Or you want to be on the newer/faster/better network. This spec sheet could really help someone out VS listening to someone else based on Hype. Specs matter after all do they not? eh?
 

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The problem I have with all newer smartphones is that they are only getting bigger and bigger. Yeah, I get it...bigger screen = better VIEWING experience. But it also means worse CARRYING experience. I don't want a giant 4.5"+ screen in my pocket. All these new smart phones are just too gigantic for easy portability. I think the iPhone 4S has a great mixture of both size and performance. Anything over 4" is just too big for a cell phone IMO.
 
Isn't a car and a tractor Apples and Oranges? Isn't one for transportation and the other for farming and doing work? And isn't iPhone and Android very much the same purpose?

Ok, well if you take that 100 hp Mazda engine and put it in a mustang it won't run the same.
 
Maybe you need a World phone or a phone with more memory. And this would be good for someone because they have the iPhone option for this.

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The problem I have with all newer smartphones is that they are only getting bigger and bigger. Yeah, I get it...bigger screen = better VIEWING experience. But it also means worse CARRYING experience. I don't want a giant 4.5"+ screen in my pocket. All these new smart phones are just too gigantic for easy portability. I think the iPhone 4S has a great mixture of both size and performance. Anything over 4" is just too big for a cell phone IMO.

they are also getting curved screens to fit right into your hand like a glove and they are also getting alot thinner and lighter than the current boxy small thing. if design can accommodate an extra inch of screen, great that is awesome. good for those companies who are innovative in design. Designs are changing for the better.

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Ok, well if you take that 100 hp Mazda engine and put it in a mustang it won't run the same.

the mustang would then become slow like the mazda even slower because bigger car. It all depends on the " SPECS " of the mustang is it a V8 model? Cobra? Saleen? or a V6? The higher the specs the faster she will go. Sure you can tweak the mazda to go faster with alot of mods, I guess you could overclock the iPhone somehow put in a 4G LTE chip and it would run faster too. Out of the box out of the box where it's at :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tgz5-8chSlk&feature=related
 
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Maybe you need a World phone or a phone with more memory. And this would be good for someone because they have the iPhone option for this.

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they are also getting curved screens to fit right into your hand like a glove and they are also getting alot thinner and lighter than the current boxy small thing. if design can accommodate an extra inch of screen, great that is awesome. good for those companies who are innovative in design. Designs are changing for the better.

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the mustang would then become slow like the mazda even slower because bigger car. It all depends on the " SPECS " of the mustang is it a V8 model? Cobra? Saleen? or a V6? The higher the specs the faster she will go. Sure you can tweak the mazda to go faster with alot of mods, I guess you could overclock the iPhone somehow put in a 4G LTE chip and it would run faster too. Out of the box out of the box where it's at :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tgz5-8chSlk&feature=related

That's what I mean, the "software" of the Mazda works fine with the "specs", but those same "specs" don't translate to the same performance with the "software" of the mustang. Specs are great, but they are only a part of the story, so it all depends on what you want. Do want an economic car that uses little gas, but also is not as fast nor as powerfull but gets you from point a to b (blackberry), or do you want a speed demon of a sports car (galaxy nexus), or a luxury car that tries to balance everything and provide a smooth ride (iPhone)?
 
Obviously specs matter but just because something has better specs doesn't mean it is going to run better because the software is fragmented and not made to perform perfectly on one piece of hardware.
 
The point of saying "specs don't matter" is to point out that Apple manages to provide a smoother, more fluid, more seemless OS experience than Android is capable of despite the fact that they throw loads of powerful hardware at it. Apple is still at dual 800mhz when Android phones are at dual and quad 1+Ghz. Apple has 512MB of RAM when Android has 1GB or more.

Yet what does all that extra hardware get you? A laggy experience, things break more, and it's not as fluid as the iPhone. Apple manages to do more with less.
 
If a machine or device with "lower" specs runs extremely well, completes the tasks that I need it to complete in a timely manner, and delivers a great user experience, then it has met all of my criteria. The new MacBook Airs with SSDs have better specs and are outperforming my 2008 MacBook in performance tests, but my machine still does everything I need it to without any problems and is still a pleasure to use. Therefore, I have no need to replace it any time soon. I've outgrown the obsessive need to frequently buy new things because they promise "bigger, better, faster".
 
Sounds as if you're about as old as I am. I remember using Timex/Sinclairs, Atari STEs and Amstrads. :)

I had Pong gaming machine when they came out. And yes, Sinclairs and Atari 400 and 800 and all the old stuff.

And no, I'm not an itroll or whatever the **** that is. The whole point of this thread is that Android users are the old Windows users, who brag about the most pointless of things.
 
My wife finally upgraded from a 3G (non-S) to the iPhone 4S. Now there is a jump that is significant enough to say yes, specs matter. The 3G was well beyond it's useful shelf life. I have a 4 and have absolutely no intention of upgrading to a 4S. I don't really care enough about Siri and the cameras in all phones kinda suck. It just wasn't worth it to make a half life upgrade jump. Maybe I will see what the next phone brings, and go from there. But we aren't exactly talking about a device for running Photoshop, Final Cut, high end games and the like are we. It's a "smart phone," but it is still just a phone. Better places to worry about specs and spend money.

And yes ShionoyaTamaki, shame on you for scamming your own mother. It would be one thing if you talked to her and she agreed she didn't need the top of the line, and purchased you a new one in exchange for your old one. But to just give her your old one without telling her? Come on man.

He is having a laugh at you anyway. Consider this: His mother may not be able to find out about processor specs. But mothers _do_ know whether a computer is new or not. There is wear and tear that is clearly visible.
 
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