Can anyone give an estimate how much faster a mac mini M1 16Gb will be compared to my iMac24 inch late 2009 with 3 GHz processor (duo core), 8Gb RAM and with GT130 NVIDIA graphics card ? I use my iMac only just 2k video editing in proves and 4:2:2/10 bit. At the moment rendering takes ages.
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speed of my almost 12 year old iMac compared to Mac mini M1 16Gb ?
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I don't know but this guy has a lot of videos showing him using it for video editing so you probably could get an idea from this
You will be totally impressed by the difference for reference the Geekbench scores of the machines. But it is more than the processor capacity speed up you get, the interfaces for connecting the external pheripherials is so much faster too.
iMac (Early 2009) - Geekbench
Benchmark results for an iMac (Early 2009) with an Intel Core 2 Duo E8435 processor.
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I went from 2015 12" MacBook (dual core, 250MB/sec SSD) to... Oct. 2020 Mini 15 6-core 16/512 2500MB/sec SSD. I did NOT want to be forced into Big Sur, 11.3 or later at earliest. Also my T7 1TB gets ~950MB/sec so that's good. I wanted something that trouble free and mature, not 1.0. And it uses 14GB and all 6 (no hyper-threading) cylinders, less strain and less heat. Very pleased. And running Windows better than even my Mac Pro was.
If you're using FCPX & if you want to do a test, download the BruceX benchmark https://blog.alex4d.com/2013/10/30/brucex-a-new-fcpx-benchmark/ and follow the instructions. I ran one at 1080p HD (changed the project to HD before export) for you & the result was 6.5 seconds, at standard settings it was 12 seconds. This is on an M1 Mini 16/256.
In real world use the difference will be night & day - your iMac is the same generation my backup Mac mini (2009, 8gb, 2.66 C2D Penryn, SSD - but obviously the graphics card in yours is far better) & my M1 mini 16gb absolutely trounces it in every way imaginable - 4k video editing is buttery smooth even with multiple colour corrections/filters so you'll have no issues with HD & export times will be rapid.
If Apple bring out a fix to the bluetooth issues (which are real, and annoying), then the M1 mini will feel like a mature product, not a Gen 1. I came from a 2018 Mini i7 with Vega 56 eGPU & the M1 is far far more reliable and smoother in use. Export times from FCPX were somewhat quicker on my i7, but that was because of the eGPU. That being said, the M1 mini will export far quicker than a 2018 intel mini using the inbuilt GPU.
And yes I can confirm that the Youtubers gushing over the editing capabilities and speed of the M1 are all correct!
In real world use the difference will be night & day - your iMac is the same generation my backup Mac mini (2009, 8gb, 2.66 C2D Penryn, SSD - but obviously the graphics card in yours is far better) & my M1 mini 16gb absolutely trounces it in every way imaginable - 4k video editing is buttery smooth even with multiple colour corrections/filters so you'll have no issues with HD & export times will be rapid.
If Apple bring out a fix to the bluetooth issues (which are real, and annoying), then the M1 mini will feel like a mature product, not a Gen 1. I came from a 2018 Mini i7 with Vega 56 eGPU & the M1 is far far more reliable and smoother in use. Export times from FCPX were somewhat quicker on my i7, but that was because of the eGPU. That being said, the M1 mini will export far quicker than a 2018 intel mini using the inbuilt GPU.
And yes I can confirm that the Youtubers gushing over the editing capabilities and speed of the M1 are all correct!
If I knew Apple plans I would be rich man. Who knows when they will get to it again, I would think after just about everything else has been updated some time next year. It makes no sense for them to back over old ground this soon.
Dude, I went from a 2016 MBP to a 2020 M1 MBP and the difference is noticeable on just every day tasks.
The M1 will annihilate your 2009 iMac in every way. Everything will feel MUCH faster and more snappy. You will notice how even small things have a perceivable lag on your 2009 machine but on the M1 it's instant.
If you are trying to justify buying one... if you've waited this long, you can wait a little longer.
The next M1 Macs are going to run circles around these current ones. These machines were intended to be be bare-bones entry level machines. If you consider your workload bare bones entry level, then get one. If you consider your workload worthy of more horsepower, I would wait until the real machines are introduced. They will be released this year so it's not like an eternity and you've managed to survive this long, a little longer isn't going to kill you.
The next M1 Macs are going to run circles around these current ones. These machines were intended to be be bare-bones entry level machines. If you consider your workload bare bones entry level, then get one. If you consider your workload worthy of more horsepower, I would wait until the real machines are introduced. They will be released this year so it's not like an eternity and you've managed to survive this long, a little longer isn't going to kill you.
M1 used existing form factor. Likely prototype, but very real. Capable of more than just entry level. Yes there will be other models - iMac and Mac Pro. And likely additional MacBook Pro offering.
No one can say with any certainty that they'll run circles. This year. Or early 2022 in the case of a Mac Pro.
No one can say with any certainty that they'll run circles. This year. Or early 2022 in the case of a Mac Pro.
As always in technology, if you can wait, there will be something better.
Most don't compare systems with that age difference. Although, these reviews, handling 4K and 8K footage, will show you what the M1 and very recent Mac models are capable of regarding video editing.
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Especially if you use FCP or other Apple Silicon optimized software.
Most don't compare systems with that age difference. Although, these reviews, handling 4K and 8K footage, will show you what the M1 and very recent Mac models are capable of regarding video editing.
Real World Mind Blowing Video Editing Performance on M1 Air
So screw benchmarks, I picked up my M1 MacBook Air (16GB / 1 TB) today and I wanted to try out one of the most demanding things I ask my computer to do in Final Cut. I often record multi-cam (2-3 cameras) interviews or musical performances. These are filmed in 4k 10-bit H265 which is currently...
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Apple M1 Mac mini Review by Oliver Peters
Rounding out 2020, Apple made the first move in its transition from Intel to Arm-based Apple silicon processors. The MacBook Air, the 13” MacBook Pro, and the Mac mini are the first Macs to feature the new chip.
I think, @ronster22's confusion was because you stated your newer Mac as an "Oct. 2020 Mini 15 6-core" -- I assume, purchase date related and a mistype of "i5". Hence, probably didn't realize you were referring to an Intel-based 2018 model and presumed M1-based, which would be emulated x86 (Windows) versus virtualization provided by Intel CPUs. (I hope I didn't make that more confusing.)
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In March, Apple increased the standard/base configuration SSD capacities, nothing more. I don't know of any changes in Oct. 2020 on the Intel-based Mac mini -- nor is anything noted by MR. Essentially, the early 2020 Mac mini is a 2018 model a bit cheaper (because you're getting a free upgrade to the next SSD capacity tier).
Unless you have something to the contrary.
P.S. I’m not trying to belittle the 2018 version.
Unless you have something to the contrary.
P.S. I’m not trying to belittle the 2018 version.
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I think we will see the M1X Mac mini later this year. The Mac mini, while top spec is still pretty powerful, is still an entry level system. The last system that will be replaced will be the Mac Pro, specifically the $50,000 variants.
When the M1 models launched, I presumed, the higher end -- M1x or whatever -- could come as soon as March of this year. However, with production yields still struggling for the M1, the high-end Mac mini, MBP, and possibly (some of the) iMac models may not get an M series upgrade until mid or late this year.
Next question. I am planning to use the mac mini M1 16Gb (if they do get available because here in The Netherlands you can not buy it anywhere) together with the ultrawide monitor LG 38WN95C. This is a 3840 * 1600 38 inch monitor with frequencyrate upto 120 Hz. On many youtube reviews they claim that a monitor (independent of brand)with such specs works on a mac mini M1 upto 120 and even 144 Hz. I asked AMAC a local dealer of Apple equipment if this is really the case and they tell me it is IMPOSSIBLE. Mac mini M1 only supports to max. 60 Hz. They included the spec (see attachment). How is this possible because the reviews indeed show frequencies upto 120 Hz !!!!!!!
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I will go with lies for page or video views, not the first time happening on the internet...
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Running Mac Mini M1 >> 1440p w/ 144hz - TB3 or HDMi?
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Bought two LG UK670's and when I connect to the HDMI on one, it looks way sharper and colors are much better. On USB C, the monitor is too bright. Confirmed the settings are the same. And when flip the HDMIs, the pictures flip. Hoping to get them to match. Will I need something like a Caldigit...
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Mac mini M1 Ultra Wide Monitor Issues
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But how can this be explained if the spec of the mac mini M1 is only 60 Hz (again see attachment) ???????There are a lot of threads here on M1 and monitor compatibilities, etc. However, here are some more relevant to your inquiry.
Running Mac Mini M1 >> 1440p w/ 144hz - TB3 or HDMi?
Looking forward to my M1 Mini and trying to plan ahead. I've got 1 144hz 1440p monitor I'd like to run with this Mac Mini. My monitor has both Displayport & HDMI (1.4 & 2.0). HDMI 2.0 spec shows compatibility with 144hz @ 1440p, so would HDMI be the way to go? Would this require a special...Mac mini not allowing 144hz
My Mac mini is not letting me set my display settings to 144hz despite the monitor I’m using supporting it. It let me set it when I first plugged it in but then the screen went black and wouldn’t come back . Now I’m stuck with 120 50 and 60 hz as my options, what could be the cause ?Does the LG UltraWide 38WK95C-W work with M1 Mac Mini?
Can anyone confirm the M1 Mini works well with the LG 38” Ultrawide 38WK95C-W? I am about to pull the trigger on this display if it works well. Thanks!Mac mini M1.....HDMI and USB C display look different
Bought two LG UK670's and when I connect to the HDMI on one, it looks way sharper and colors are much better. On USB C, the monitor is too bright. Confirmed the settings are the same. And when flip the HDMIs, the pictures flip. Hoping to get them to match. Will I need something like a Caldigit...Mac mini M1 Ultra Wide Monitor Issues
So I am using a iiyama G-Master GB3461WQSU-B1 Red Eagle with a resolution of 3440 x 1440px and just hooked up my base Mac mini M1 to it. It will not put out the correct resolution, neither over HDMI nor through a Thunderbolt 3 Elgato Dock that can do HDMI 4K60. The resolution is limited to...
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My guess is because those specs state the maximum. For example, 4K at 60 Hz, then perhaps 2K (QHD) at 120 Hz, and probably full HD (1080p) at 240 Hz. That is, as the resolution decreases from the maximum capable, the refresh rate can be increased.