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“Apple in iOS 13 is introducing SiriKit changes that will allow Siri to play music, podcasts, audiobooks, and radio from third-party apps, which seems to be the feature that the two companies have been discussing.”

This article is confusing. If iOS 13 changes to SiriKit allow Siri to play music and other audio from 3rd party apps wouldn’t that automatically include Spotify?

It's confusing for sure. I think the biggest gripe here is that if you said "Hey Siri play Coldplay" it would open Apple Music. For Spotify you'd have to say "Hey Siri play Coldplay on Spotify" Spotify want's the user to have the option to set a default music player so you don't have to use the add on "on Spotify" I agree with Spotify on this one. Giving the user a choice of what music player, browser, podcaster, or whatever is default would be a win for everyone but Apple sees it as a loss.
 
Why?

This would be a great way for Apple to boost HomePod sales for sure. Plus giving users a choice is always welcomed.

heavy is the head that wears the crown..Apple knew
I’m confused. If SiriKit changes in iOS 13 will allow this what discussions do they need to have?

Anyway, Apple should be competing by providing the better service, not limiting features for 3rd party apps to make them less attractive.

I agree I thought the whole “kits” idea with Apple was to allow 3rd parties into the core of iOS..both google and Apple should allow others the SAME functionality as the services they offer...and the person who wins will be the one who has the better product! It looks like to me Apple is afraid of competition. If the playing field isn’t level folks can’t decide a winner
 
I’m confused. If SiriKit changes in iOS 13 will allow this what discussions do they need to have?

Anyway, Apple should be competing by providing the better service, not limiting features for 3rd party apps to make them less attractive.
Despite the article, perhaps discussions could be a way for the user to switch to Spotify for music. As in, “hey Siri, switch music playback to Spotify”.
 
Apple isn’t limiting features. Siri started out locked down to Apple only. Over the years Apple has increased functionality and allowed Siri to be used with more and more 3rd party Apps.

Apple also did this with multitasking, TouchID and NFC (initially Apple only and locked down, then expanded later on). This is Apples MO.

Now if Siri initially worked with everything, and then Apple intentionally cut off Spotify (for example), then I’d agree Apple is “limiting” features.

I believe the limiting is the fact that I just can’t ask siri(which at this point Apple should be lucky most still want to use) to play jazz and it plays perfectly..from Tidal..In iOS 13 now I at least can say “play jazz music from tidal” The extra step is what is limiting. It would be nice to just be able to set non core apps as a default with iOS
 
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I want to be able to set my default music service. I don’t use Apple Music, so why would I want to have to say “on Spotify “ each time? I get that Apple doesn’t like the competition, but for someone like me who will NEVER use Apple music, why should I, the consumer, have to do something extra? It’s not going to make me drop Spotify for Apple, it’s just going to piss me off.
 
I want to be able to set my default music service. I don’t use Apple Music, so why would I want to have to say “on Spotify “ each time? I get that Apple doesn’t like the competition, but for someone like me who will NEVER use Apple music, why should I, the consumer, have to do something extra? It’s not going to make me drop Spotify for Apple, it’s just going to piss me off.
Then switch to Android, Apple isn’t about a choice but making iOS simple for everyone to use. Apple will never let users default to other apps that isn’t their own
 
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Then switch to Android, Apple isn’t about a choice but making iOS simple for everyone to use. Apple will never let user default to other apps that isn’t their own
And how does that mindset plays along with the services company thing?
Allowing Spotify or whatever service doesn't take anything from the Apple experience. it just adds. Those that want 101% Apple won't loose anything or have to do anything.
 
And how does that mindset plays along with the services company thing?
Allowing Spotify or whatever service doesn't take anything from the Apple experience. it just adds. Those that want 101% Apple won't loose anything or have to do anything.
I want it as much as anyone but Apple isn’t given its control up on iOS, we are on iOS 13 now and users still can’t choose apps they want to use as default, Apple has shown no signs of they will users decide what they want in the future
 
Isn't it obvious Spotify is campaigning against Apple....even though it gets preferential treatment compared to other Apple Developers.
Bringing forward an antitrust complaint is not ‘campaigning against Apple’, it’s a legitimate business move and it’s going their way. For the numerous reasons cited by commentators above, Apple can benefit from making this move and Apple Music subscribers will undoubtedly benefit from Apple being nudged to implement the features that attract so many subscribers to Spotify. For example, for me at least, the Spotify ‘Daily Mix’ suggestions trump the beautiful, seamless integration offered by Apple Music. I’d like Apple to do better and with help from Spotify they just might.
 
Great. So they will be able to implement SiriKit during the beta period and release by iOS 13 public release.... LOL yeah right. Don’t expect Spotify to implement this into their iOS Apps until the end of next year or the year after... their development cycles are F***ED
 
This is one step closer to me even considering a HomePod in the "smart speaker" market.

The lockout of Spotify (my chosen Music service) and the inability to link multiple Apple ID's at once are the two reasons I stayed away from Gen 1 HomePods.
 
Hahaha so Spotify logs an official complaint to the EU competition commission, and all of sudden Apple is trying to majorly suck up to them...

Hmm an extremely clear sign of a guilty conscience from Apple I think....
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Spotify is still dominating the market. I'd say Apple just wants to avoid being investigated by the EU commission for anti-competitive behaviour. They're already prepping that for the App Store.

Exactly, this is nothing more then Apple trying to avoid an investigation they full well know will find them guilty, otherwise they wouldn’t behaving like this..
 
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Hahaha so Spotify logs an official complaint to the EU competition commission, and all of sudden Apple is trying to majorly suck up to them...

Hmm an extremely clear sign of a guilty conscience from Apple I think....
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Exactly, this is nothing more then Apple trying to avoid an investigation they full well know will find them guilty, otherwise they wouldn’t behaving like this..

Don't think the EU will drop the investigation, rightly so.

Spot is turning out to be run by a bunch of whiners. What's their motto? "We want it all?"

Say that to the EU.
 
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