Is it decreasing? Seems like they keep adding subscribers... as is Apple. The market isn't saturated yet
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Yeah, that'll show them! Drop dead Spotify! We're Apple!
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Spotify and Apple in Talks to Let Siri Play Spotify Content
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Hopefully this'll work out, I'd love to command Spotify through Siri since I refuse to use Apple Music.
When Apple restricts features/functions for third party apps, Apple isn't just limiting an app's abilities. It's also limiting your abilities.
Apple should buy their algorithm software and actually design a decent music app.
Apparently it’s coming, though Apple Music will still be the default (according to Spotify, as quoted in the article).
Sorry, I thought I had done so enough previously to not have to repeat myself.
Spotify is trash because it doesn't pay artists. That is the single most important thing that a music service has to do, and it fails horrifically.
No, couldn't disagree more with this comment. I bought an Apple phone. I also choose to buy other Apple Devices. I do not approve nor appreciate them controlling or influencing what I do with the products in using a feature of that device that is intentially manipulated to prevent me from using it as designed only because they don't want me using another product. There is no justification for such behavior. Seems like such hypocrisy, is this really making the consumers experience the best it can be? Really?
Spotify isn't doing what other devs are doing because it doesn't help their case. They could have already included the media hooks Siri has in iOS 12 and didn't because it wasn't exactly what they wanted (on-par billing, default app). Now SiriKit is coming out — offering even more control through Siri and they still won't add it because it still doesn't include making it the default.
All the people complaining that AM and Spotify don't get the same treatment on iOS need to understand that Spotify is just as culpable of keeping features from you as Apple is — and at least you can see Apple's reasoning where Spotify is keeping features out to prove a point off the backs of your experience. Apple tried to work with them before and Spotify rebuffed them. Spotify could have added either Siri media controls in iOS12 OR utilized shortcuts to at least enhance using Spotify on iOS but didn't.
At least I get Apple's perspective — they are a hardware manufacturer and they make software to enhance the hardware and — at least from a support perspective — I get them wanting their customers to use their services as it is a closed environment compared to android (if that is a good thing or bad thing is personal opinion). But Spotify is purposefully keeping iOS features off their version to make it seem like their hands are completely tied when they are not.
Spotify pay less than Apple but an artist would still need 200,272 plays to earn the US monthly minimum wage amount on Apple Music.
That pitiful rate of pay is arguably just as egregious as Spotify given that Apple is a company with over $200 billion in cash reserves.
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Not good enough. I shouldn’t have to say “on Spotify”. Apple should let us set the default music provider just like they should let us set the default browser on iOS.
I understand that Spotify pays artists less than Apple does. I am not saying it is good or bad but do artists not make a choice as to whether they want to have their music available? I believe they can opt out of one or both of these streaming services if they do desire. If you feel you are not being fairly compensated at your work place would you not move on or start to lobby for better remuneration?
Well it is easier for Apple to pay more when they have pricy hardware sales able to fund it. What’s sad is pretty soon evething will be owned by big companies because smaller companies can’t compete.
Bought a HomePod and returned it when I realized it couldn't do Spotify. As soon as Spotify is back, I'll buy another one.
Depends, if the artist exclusively own the rights to their work they can decide to not be on the platform. Very few are in this position though and their label is going to get a say on where their work is distributed.
Besides are you just going to choose to have no presence on the worlds biggest music platform? If you are a major artist, a Drake, a Taylor Swift maybe you could but most can't afford not to be there.
That said Spotify accounts for 30% of total revenue generated by the recorded music industry. They pay 70% of their revenue out in licensing for the music streamed on the platform.
The fact is Spotify would struggle to pay significantly more to artists and survive. The likes of Apple and Amazon could, but they don't.
Why do they have to do anything for 3rd parties? If they did not create the App Store in the first place and stuck with the web apps from the first IPhone, Spotify would not exist.
Neither would the iPhone. The third party applications have made the platform what it is.
What the hell are you talking about? Spotify users outnumber Apple Music - their closest competitor - by more than 2 to 1, and if you count those on the free tier it's more than 4 to 1. They seem to be doing just fine.
"Useless".
I use Siri all day, every day for everything ranging from operating my smart home (lights and temperature), playing music, setting reminders, adding or changing my schedule, setting timers, quick calculations, asking sports or general knowledge questions, etc etc etc.
Useless, right?
Siri understands me perfectly and is able to deliver on correct commands and find answers to my questions. It works fantastically.
For comparison, I recently added an Echo Show that was on sale and I thought would fit nicely on my bedside table. I've gotten so used to controlling my HomePod with natural language that when I added the Echo Show, its inability to understand natural language and the need to remember to say things in specific commands really threw me off. This is the most popular voice assistant?
Aside from its expandability through Skills, Alexa is nowhere close to as good as Siri where it counts. I'd put Google and Siri at about even with Google ahead on general knowledge pulled from its search engine but Alexa is way behind the pack. Siri is also expandable with Siri Shortcuts which is getting a lot of support in the year that it's been out so there goes Alexa's main advantage.
"Alexa, turn off the lights"
"Sorry, I didn't find a device named lights"
https://twitter.com/metromanto/status/1161007750543024130?s=12
This is just unacceptable in a smart home assistant.
HomePod and Siri are far better than they get credit for.