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Spotify CEO Daniel Ek on Apple's EU Changes: 'They Think the Rules Don't Apply to Them'
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Where did you get that from?!?
You bought an iPhone and accepted this software license agreement. Maybe almost no one reads it, but since you talk about property, that’s your property.
You can break the agreement and jailbreak your iPhone, you can decide not to buy an iPhone and reject the agreement. What you can’t do is forcing someone else, in a free transaction, to reach an agreement in the terms you want.
The situations are not even close to being the same thing.
The EU is giving users more control of their devices, akin to the Mac. You know, letting users install what they want on the devices they purchased. Not at all like spying on their citizens in the manner above you mentioned.
This is different discussion, but I'll leave it anyway. I think software terms of service are unethical as hell; they are one sided contracts the end-user has no say so in other than to accept, yet the company that writes them can change them at will anytime they want without notice.
I look forward to their legality being tested in the Supreme Court. It's never made it that far.
Hypocrites.
Spotify: Pay. Your. Artists.
Apple is far from a perfect company but the constant noise from the dubious likes of Tim Sweeney of Epic and Spotify is tiresome. I know the “little guys” don’t have the time or the money to take on the likes of Apple, but Epic/Spotify garbage ambassadors for regulating Apple given their own positions in their respective industries.
Spotify: Pay. Your. Artists.
Apple is far from a perfect company but the constant noise from the dubious likes of Tim Sweeney of Epic and Spotify is tiresome. I know the “little guys” don’t have the time or the money to take on the likes of Apple, but Epic/Spotify garbage ambassadors for regulating Apple given their own positions in their respective industries.
The EU commission has a vision of how a phone should work, and it's similar to a Mac, with its upsides and downsides. But instead of building their own phone, they force a company to change their vision and forbid millions of happy customers from buying a product they like, as it is currently designed. Sure, I think this is way less harmful than trying to stop people from sharing files during protests. But I think it's always good to defend freedom.
Oh Apple would love to do the same on Mac but there's too much legacy baggage and also not enough take rate on the Mac App Store that they can make that happen
Shouldn't you be more concerned about Apples cozying up to the CCP then rather than worrying that the EU might cost Apple a few dollars.
Spotify should stop crying if they’re really upset then they shouldn’t be on iOS. At the end of the day business is business and companies are trying to profit. Spotify thinks that Apple should become a charity and host any app without any charge. Of course Apple will charge a fee!
I agree with most of the criticisms concerning Apple’s behavior; however, in the end their goal is to maximize profits for shareholders. In this case it’s the EU’s responsibility to ensure the laws are being followed by Apple. All large successful companies such as Apple have a dark side. The people who are to blame are those who make the laws… but regardless companies will always find ways to increase profits. Be careful what you wish for 😊
The EU should simply rename the DMA as the SSA (Save Spotify Act), given how Spotify appears to have become the unofficial spokesperson for said act, and the entire basis of said legislation seems to exist to prop up Spotify's failing business model and save them from bankruptcy.
If you are going to engage in bare-faced protectionism, then at least be honest and upfront about it.
If you are going to engage in bare-faced protectionism, then at least be honest and upfront about it.
You're wrong. You own the device, not the software. You have the right to use it and not give it to someone else.
If you buy a game console, you cannot install any game from outside the SONY, Microsoft or Nintendo store.
Apple doesn't own the device. Users do. If a developer wants to write their own app, distribute it themselves and collect payment through their own systems to run on personally owned devices, I fail to see what Apple deserves. The developers paid their fee to do so.
Not yet. That may soon change.
That's like telling disgruntled citizens to go start their own country.
A: It's impractical and unfeasible
B: Many consumers have been investing in Apple's "ecosystem" since before it got this shady and are "locked in"
Can't I be concerned about many things at once? Apple losing a few dollars is secondary in my concerns, I'm mainly sad for users and technology.
Yeah you can, really weird to think the two things are even remotely comparable in terms of peoples freedoms.
Apple doesn't have to host a thing. Let me install an .ipa that I download from the developer. I don't need Apple to middle-man me and who I'm doing business with.
Slight pushback. I don’t want this to devolve into politics, but the Supreme Court of the United States has declared corporations are people, with the same rights as people.
Which really is the core issue - Apple does not see the commission they charge today as exhorbant, and regulators don't have the ability to tell them they are charging too much.
The EU can mandate decoupling things all they want, but Apple will continue to say (as they have done for the last 15 years) that they take a cut of your success from your app on iOS.
I perused it. Didn't see where it said I had to obtain non-Apple Software from Apple. Is it there? Could you point it out?