Yeah if Spotify buys yanked from the iOS store entirely then at least they will be losing less money because they will have way less money.
Still not sure how Spotify seems to be the only streaming service to be extremely unprofitable.
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Still not sure how Spotify seems to be the only streaming service to be extremely unprofitable.
On a side note I intermittently had the 'greyed out' problem too when using iTunes on Windows. (And I'd already turned on iCloud Music Library) I'd have to fix it by going to Account Info... and signing in again, at which point it would be accessible once more.
I then saw that my music would grey out again anytime I used Get Info on a song and edited its metadata. Annoying but a bug I assume they'll fix over time.
I was supposed to be getting a 2 or $3 a month discount with Sprint, only to find out it was only for the "Framily plan" and not my 3-4 year old everything data plan. (for me...a 14 year old customer!) it would remain the $9.99 a month.
Thanks Spotify or Sprint or whoever.
I will gladly use Apple Music from here on out.
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Thanks Spotify or Sprint or whoever.
I will gladly use Apple Music from here on out.
-Rant
If by excellent move you mean hasten their demise more quickly, I agree.
I never realised you could buy it from the App Store for 12.99.
i guess some people trust thier purchases through apple, and would pay extra.....
I'd be upset if u was a long term spotify premium customer and only now they make me aware of this.
i guess some people trust thier purchases through apple, and would pay extra.....
I'd be upset if u was a long term spotify premium customer and only now they make me aware of this.
10s of millions of people getting something for free and you can find complaints on Google! I am shocked. I suspect googling "Spotify music problems" would also have results.
Yup, they are trying to eliminate themselves from the streaming markert
You realise apple looses out in this move......
What is funny is a 30% margin for a retailer is not even a little bit out of line.
Why would they sell it at a loss to begin with?
It's not an apple tax, it is the cost of doing business and paying a retailer for selling their goods. If they can't make money without the retailer getting a share they certainly should not agree to make it worse.
Much like the smartphone industry in 2006 apple saw the streaming music business as a huge cluster. Spotify is RIM only worse.
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unbelievable
There is no evidence profit margins at 9.99 a month are small anywhere but Spotify.
Spotify's ad tier and many discounted subscriptions are why they lose so much money. That and inept management.
How about you get yourself to some kind of anger management class as well? You seem a little down.
Uhm, no. See for example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Handango
You may have missed that Spotify is present on other (and bigger) platforms as well. It's no coincidence that Apple will, for the first time ever, sell music on a competing mobile platform. I wonder if Apple will pay 30% of the Apple Music fee to the Google app store.
You may be surprised. With their current user base, they'd only need to generate $3 ARPU per year from their ad-supported subscribers to become profitable. It will get easier and easier as the user base grows. And it remains to be seen how many people will actually pay money for Apple Music after their trial period is over. I suspect many will switch back to the ad-supported Spotify tier.
Apple don't mind those Free users go to Spotify... those users are not profitable...
Uhm, no. See for example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Handango
You may have missed that Spotify is present on other (and bigger) platforms as well. It's no coincidence that Apple will, for the first time ever, sell music on a competing mobile platform. I wonder if Apple will pay 30% of the Apple Music fee to the Google app store.
Probably Apple use Spotify style... 12.99 on Google and 9.99 on iOS.. and blame Google for price increase and encourage people to buy iPhone to get 9.99 price. Lol
They do generate a small profit for Spotify. But more importantly, I think Apple will care because these users are no longer firmly tied into the iTunes ecosystem. Keeping them there is probably one of the main reasons why Apple Music exists.
I think Apple is learning that most of the markets they are in are very competitive. Other than the iPad and iPhone, I don't see much of what Apple puts out as separating itself from its competition.
The overpriced proprietary, non-upgradeable, forced obsolescence, MAC lineups are in a very competitive market with many systems 30% cheaper. (I know they run Windows but if they are banking the MAC on OS X, they better get it together because Windows 10 looks VERY GOOD)
The App Store, while fun for customer and a cash cow for Apple, could go away quick if they lose iPhone and iPad market share.
In my opinion, Apple has let the success of the "i-device" go to their head and they are money grabbing everywhere. They were strong but the longer they pull this crap the weaker they will end up. The pendulum will shift.
Anyone that knows me knows I would NEVER have considered windows or anything but a Mac. Seriously, after the Mac Mini fiasco, I am very seriously considering a Gigabyte BRIX with Windows 10. 90% of the rest of the world uses Windows, maybe I should go back.
Based on your comment, it sounds like you are in the know and I've been rather curious. How profitable is Apple Music? I don't believe Apple Music has made any money yet, so I'm just curious...
Yeah, so stupid.
Maybe you can start sending 30% of what you make to Apple? It should make you feel really smart....
As to Apple Music, it's still half-baked. I have been comparing it to Google Music and Google Music is overall a much better service, with better machine-learning and as I dig deeper, a better library.
I like Google Music better than Spotify, but if I had to chose, I'd probably chose Spotify over Apple Music.
BTW, subscribing to services like Netflix or Spotify from iTunes is just stupid, since it takes funds from the companies which provide a service that you presumably like (if you subscribe to it). Less money to them means less content and services they can offer, so both you and they lose.
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Actually according to http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/apr/03/how-much-musicians-make-spotify-itunes-youtube most streaming companies get about 25% of the money. If spotify were to lower their subscription by 30% then they'd be at -5% for every paying user.
Which disaster are you referring to? So far things seem to be on track and headed in the right direction for Apple.
Spotify keeps 30% of their profits. If they earn $9.99 from a subscription per month, they earn roughly $2.99 per month with approx. $7 going to the music labels. Lets say Spotify picks pricing Tier 10 (customer is charged $9.99 per month via the App Store). They will earn $7.00 per sale ($2.99 goes to Apple).
Do you think it's in Spotify's interests to earn $0.00 per sale?
Apple doesn't allow developers to put a link to a website to buy stuff. There was the whole Microsoft Word subscription issue a while back. Apple is basically forcing developers to choose between in-app purchases or nothing. You can tell the customer about alternative (and cheaper) ways to buy using an external source but certainly not within the app.