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Yeah, but a lot of the problems are supposedly going to be fixed in iOS 10. And in the article on this site, a lot of students were saying they're switching because Apple matched spotify's discount

iOS 9 is not the issue. The problem lies with the music app. To be frank, the awful UI, like everyone got to add to it, and no one controlled scope.
 
That's too convoluted. I want to just upload music to a digital locker like Google Music or Apple Music.
I do agree it would be great to be able to link something like a dropbox : onedrive / iclloud account to read music files on it.
However you wanted an option, you have it ;)
 
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As much as Apple Music's interface and bugs can sometimes bother me, Spotify's song limit and lack of iOS integration killed it for me. I love that I can download as much as I want with Apple Music and don't have to worry about a cap. (The same can also be said for Google Play Music)
 
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Tim Cook said that they had 6.5M paid subscribers in October 2015.
Now they have 13M. 100% growth in 7 months is not bad!

Spotify went from 20M to 30M since last June.

But I agree with most of the comments... that regardless if the growth rate is 100% or 50%, the user interface and experience for AM needs alot of improvement.

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Still like Spotify better, Apple Music it's not user friendly at this point. Apple should have Apple Music app, big mistake mixing iTunes with Apple Music. I am in the free trial with Apple Music, not impress yet! Not sure if I am going to stick around. Spotify still the winner at this point, sorry Apple.
 
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I absolutely hate Spotify's focus on tracks and playlists. It always seemed so hard to just listen to a record on there. Never mind the fact that it seemed to continually post to Facebook even when I removed its permissions.

Totally right there with you. Left Spotify a couple years ago because of this; not sure if it's still like this. So frustrating though, I mean why was it so hard to just add an album and listen to it??
 
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Spotify is simply better. Spotify hands down has a better app, interface, and features added every couple of months. Not to mention the incredible slew of human made, hand-picked playlists that Spotify recommends to me based on my listening habits. There are those that swear by Apple Music, and that's fine. I'm delighted that they love it. But Spotify was already so far ahead when Apple Music launched that I don't know if Apple Music can catch up. The Apple that we used to know consistently was late to market, but always had a superior product. However in this case, Apple Music was late, but in no ways better than any of the competition. Apple Music is simply as good, or worse than the competition.
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Totally right there with you. Left Spotify a couple years ago because of this; not sure if it's still like this. So frustrating though, I mean why was it so hard to just add an album and listen to it??

FWIW Spotify now gives you a "Library" which pretty much works like iTunes/the default music app. If you like a song or album now, just hit "Save" and it is saved to your library, along with all of your other music. Of course, playlists still exist if you prefer that route. :)
 
Spotify is simply better. Spotify hands down has a better app, interface, and features added every couple of months. Not to mention the incredible slew of human made, hand-picked playlists that Spotify recommends to me based on my listening habits. There are those that swear by Apple Music, and that's fine. I'm delighted that they love it. But Spotify was already so far ahead when Apple Music launched that I don't know if Apple Music can catch up. The Apple that we used to know consistently was late to market, but always had a superior product. However in this case, Apple Music was late, but in no ways better than any of the competition. Apple Music is simply as good, or worse than the competition.
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FWIW Spotify now gives you a "Library" which pretty much works like iTunes/the default music app. If you like a song or album now, just hit "Save" and it is saved to your library, along with all of your other music. Of course, playlists still exist if you prefer that route. :)
NO. Not even close. Tidal is better than Spotify. Plus their search actually works. I'm sorry but in my experience trying to locate a popular record on Spotify can be difficult. That's why I was glad to switch once Tidal and AM became viable options.
 
This part of the article is not true:

"Spotify continues to operate at a loss due to expensive royalties and revenue sharing with music label partners, but the Swedish company expects to eventually become profitable through continued subscriber growth."

The loss is not due to expensive royalties, because we know royalties on streaming music is tiny. The company operates at a loss because it gives away its service for free in return for just a tiny bit of ad revenue. Even the premium level service is a cheap "all you can eat" price which means its most frequent users are paying pennies per hour of usage of the service. Apple is just as cheap to pay for "all you can eat", but it doesn't have the free portion dragging down its revenue.

So don't buy into Spotify's argument that content should be given to them even cheaper so they can resell it. Spotify needs to step up and charge for its service. Maybe economies of scale will save it or video or something, but I suspect it won't. It started its life giving away the service for free and it can't get away from that without losing huge numbers of customers.
 
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I mean, that's purely a subjective statement... evidenced by the simple fact I find Apple Music to be the best service available in my own subjective experience. Before it, Google Play was an equivalent service... and then Apple came and bested them on price with the family plan. Spotify always had the worst UI and UX. And this update looks like they copied Apple Music's UI/UX... almost tab for tab.

These are services though, and it's fine to not like one and prefer another. Just wait for some insane person to come talk about how great Pandora is. :p
Pandora is the best, hands down, no question, inarguable. JK. It's great we have all these services to offer competition. I went with GP All Access. It was good before, but when they added the family plan and augmented it with Youtube Red, it just cemented my decision. Hopefully they all get better and make my decision that much harder.
 
It's sad. Apple always used to be "late to the party" but whatever they created would be better than what was out there (ex. Copy/Paste, Multitasking in iOS, etc..). Now, they have a habit of being late & their products being inferior.

Seriously?? My phone has split screen, that's true multitasking.
 
I tried Spotify but missed the For You of  Music. The Discover part of Spotify the suggestions were crap, liked none of them. I really like the For You on  Music, while not for everyone, I do like having music presented to me in that way, rather than having to think of what music to search for.

Another thing I didn't like about Spotify, was despite having the relevant settings on Extreme for sound quality, I found the sound quality to be inferior to  Music. On the same album, the volume needed to be higher on Spotify than it did on  Music, and I found  Music had more detailed and just generally better quality sound.
 
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It's proof that the streaming portion should have been a non-iTunes separate app. It's time to break up iTunes on the Mac into 5 apps,

Ugh I feel like I'm in the minority, but I do *not* want five different apps at all. I really like that iTunes is my one stop shop for everything, I'd rather they just improve it than give me more apps to fuss around with.
 
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It becomes more and more obvious for me that this could really become one of Apples worst years.
There is stagnation everywhere.

Introduce a really flawless Apple Music service from the beginning? Nah! We are Apple, people love us, we will outgrow Spotify!

iPhone sales are down? Let's make a new iPhone similar to the last two ones with little changes and make no big flagship redesign!

Watch sales are not satisfying? Let's make new bands!

iPad sales are down? Let's name it a Pro device and make it more expensive with more expensive accessories! Customers don't need no new iPad mini or Air 3!

Mac sales are down? Let's just take them as they are and don't upgrade them! Some products are now 1698 (!!!) days old, who needs an update? Who needs a dedicated GPU in the 4K iMac? Who doesn't want to have 5400rpm hard drives in their "most advanced" machines?

Watch sales are still not satisfying? Let's make new bands!

Want to revolutionize the "future of television"? Let's cut the optical audio output port to increase the margin and focus on 1080p (maybe they did that because nobody shoots 4K with 16GB of storage ). Double the price so more and more customers can get them in their home! But don't rework the UI, make it white, that's enough!


Oh jeeeeez, like one of you said in a news earlier today, it seems like they are not even trying anymore. It's becoming an "We are Apple, we can do that with our customers" attitude which gives me sleepless nights because my beloved company is going down ☹️☹️☹️


Wauw, well said. Spot on unfortunately. You forgot one thing: A year ago in Europe (probably in the rest of the world as well), they increased all prices on Macs because the dollar was strong (or weak, dont remember the exact reason), but this meant that for exactly the same MacBook, customers would have to pay €150+ more...
 
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We prefer Spotify for a number of reasons. First they have a larger selection of music that we like, two, we can play music on a desktop computer unlike apple which requires an iOS device, three you can play Spotify on older Windows and Mac OS.
 
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You do realize how apple will win?
They will buy Spotify for 1 billion and then announce they will be shutting down Spotify at the end of the year. Bingo! Apple Wins!
 
Not sure if I missed it, but are these "new" Spotify folks paying subscribers or are they using the free service? The reason I ask is, Apple gave a free 3 month subscription, and when that ran out did they decide to try the free Spotify offerings? If so, once they realize what the free Spotify service is like, will they switch back to the paid Apple Music subscription?
 
Most of Macrumors commenters seem to struggle with basic English: Spotify is growing faster than before, not faster than Apple Music.

In fact, the opposite is true: Apple Music is growing faster. It will likely dominate the market in less than 2 years. Ecosystem and default are powerful, see Apple Maps crushing G maps on the iPhone.
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You do realize how apple will win?
They will buy Spotify for 1 billion and then announce they will be shutting down Spotify at the end of the year. Bingo! Apple Wins!

Nope.
 
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It's sad. Apple always used to be "late to the party" but whatever they created would be better than what was out there (ex. Copy/Paste, Multitasking in iOS, etc..). Now, they have a habit of being late & their products being inferior.

What do people expect? They bought Beats by Dr. Dre...

They kinda bought into a demographic that doesn't fit well into what we know as Apple. They should have bought Spotify or Pandora... Not something by a notorious "gangbanger/thug".

Fall of the house of Apple:

Beats
Apple Watch
Non 4K Apple TV
No redesigned iPhone 7
MacBooks that are slower than iPhones

Believe me, I know there are plenty more examples but I'm tired.
 
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The flipside of it is that Apple Music is getting in the way of me playing locally stored music. When I just want to listen to a playlist, Apple nags me to sign up for Apple Music. All that crap just clutters the UI and annoys people.

In settings -> music - disable "Show apple music"
 
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It becomes more and more obvious for me that this could really become one of Apples worst years.
There is stagnation everywhere.

Introduce a really flawless Apple Music service from the beginning? Nah! We are Apple, people love us, we will outgrow Spotify!

iPhone sales are down? Let's make a new iPhone similar to the last two ones with little changes and make no big flagship redesign!

Watch sales are not satisfying? Let's make new bands!

iPad sales are down? Let's name it a Pro device and make it more expensive with more expensive accessories! Customers don't need no new iPad mini or Air 3!

Mac sales are down? Let's just take them as they are and don't upgrade them! Some products are now 1698 (!!!) days old, who needs an update? Who needs a dedicated GPU in the 4K iMac? Who doesn't want to have 5400rpm hard drives in their "most advanced" machines?

Watch sales are still not satisfying? Let's make new bands!

Want to revolutionize the "future of television"? Let's cut the optical audio output port to increase the margin and focus on 1080p (maybe they did that because nobody shoots 4K with 16GB of storage ). Double the price so more and more customers can get them in their home! But don't rework the UI, make it white, that's enough!


Oh jeeeeez, like one of you said in a news earlier today, it seems like they are not even trying anymore. It's becoming an "We are Apple, we can do that with our customers" attitude which gives me sleepless nights because my beloved company is going down ☹️☹️☹️
Apple execs would do well to read more customer forums like this. Their current arrogance is both frightening and disgusting.

If Apple loses it original/loyal customers then they lose their voice. We are the ones who (traditionally) step up to bat for them in the public realm; in places they never hardly see.

Yet, I haven't been super enthused about an  product since 2012...
 
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