Spotify did have IAP however they removed it because of the 30% fee
Yes but now they can technically offer it
Then don’t subscribe to a bunch of third-party apps? It’s not hard to just not subscribe to things on Android or desktop either.
And that’s fine, but no Spotify Premium users will be paying less than they were before.
You do understand it’s about the wider picture going forward in that Spotify might not offer IAP however this will eventually kill Apple’s 30% charge going forward
Or alternatively there may be some reverse movement on that in the US. But the OP is right. Customers won’t know a difference, except possibly more inconvenience. But such is progress.
It makes sense for streaming subscriptions for the same company, but it wont unless everything moves to the Freemium model with external payments. You know how companies are these days, you don’t simply buy an app but rather have to set up a whole user account. Do you really think people want to set up different accounts, for all the apps on their phones? Especially with smaller developers who only pay 15%, not 30% to Apple. It wont kill the 15%, it just adds a second option where you can pay 85c instead of $1.
It will ultimately make no odds to the customer in the long term because what will probably happen at first is companies that offer IAP will show one price & then a cheaper price for using the link
And then people who dont want to set up yet another user account wont buy from that developer and they will make no money. Payment system aren’t free or simple so developers wont be saving 15% or 30% because they will have to pay to maintain their own payment system or they will still be paying for a 3rd party payment system. What will realistically happen is that both payment methods will be available.
Then it will show two different prices and more likely most will go for the cheaper option
I think being able to offer discounts to new users is great, but it’s debatable how many will want to set up new user accounts with their payment details with each company with unknown security just to save half a dollar/pound on an app they don’t know if they will for more than a couple of months. It makes sense on things like streaming apps, but that’s the kind of thing you use long term and the companies are large and established.
It’s 15.99 to subscribe to YouTube premium using IAP but on the website it’s 12.99
As I said, it makes sense with things like streaming apps because setting up an account with a streaming service from an established company you will use long term isn’t a point of friction; especially when you can save a couple of bucks each month. It even makes sense for some of the expensive creative apps and games. However that’s a much harder sell with all of the small apps we tend to have just so you can save less than a dollar.
It doesn’t matter because the damage has been done not right away
IMO it will become more common for expensive apps, but still not worth the hassle for the rest. Then again, freemium games are a blight but people put up with them so who knows.
Does Apple not benefit from third party apps being in their store as well? Without the apps the iPhone is a boring and outdated piece of kit.
in the end it will make no odds to people if Spotify has a payment link in their app because naturally people will get used to it over the course of time just like everything else in society
People will use those links for large repeating expenses, but there is no way people are going to set up new user accounts with payment details for every app they use just to save half a dollar/pound. There is also no way you will save 30%, companies will jack their rates to cover their inflated payment costs so in reality the savings will be more like 10%. That 30% promise is a temporary carrot they are dangling now to show how great things might be.
Yeah I wonder where Apple might shift those fees to. They probably won’t do anything until they have exhausted all appeals though. I can see it getting really complicated and more bureaucratic though which will cost everyone more.
I've only pointed it out marketshare because the original poster implied Apple developers develop for iOS because of its size.
Once the majority of customers start using the payment link in an app
It wouldn’t make good business sense to put up developer fees by that much as the iPhone relies on small & large developers for their business model
Sure dude, that’s why decades after e-commerce systems have been established the service fees people pay have only increased. You’re not going to save 30%, youre going to save 10%
