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This would be best case scenario for me as my contract would be up around then and I've been pretty happy with their coverage/service.
 
I'm excited to see the iPhone branch out to other carriers.

But then again, the more I think about it, the more I don't like the idea.

I feel the iPhone still has the unique, fresh feel to it.
When all major carriers get it, it's going to go from "You have an iPhone, sweet! let me see it!" to "Shocking, you have an iPhone too" and they're going to be littered everywhere.

Anyone else feel this way? :(
As an AAPL shareholder, I certainly do not feel that way.

The more people who buy Apple's high-margin handset, the better for Apple's bottom line and the better for my stock portfolio.

Apple fanboys should buy AAPL stock. That way, they own a piece of the company, not just their products. If you buy enough of Apple stock, it is likely in the long run that it'll pay off for all of your Apple purchases. That's right, have other Apple customers pay for your gear.
 
I think the difference now is the carriers' control over devices has been drastically relaxed. VZ originally didn't allow WiFi, disabled GPS nav, among other things. All the carriers were exercised tight control in some fashion. Apple got AT&T to agree to a host of features that enhanced the appeal of the iPhone. Other carriers essentially had to follow suit or they would be left behind. Android at VZ is an example of how control has been relaxed over the years.

I believe the issue with VZ is over price. I suspect Apple would demand more for a CDMA version due to the higher costs associated with development. However, I don't think this would be an issue if CDMA wasn't nearing EOL. With a limited potential market coupled with a very short time horizon, the number of CDMA devices sold wouldn't be large enough to recapture the development and testing expenses, etc on the front-end. I think Apple rather wait until LTE or at least until a dual GSM/CDMA baseband is cost-effective.


The CDMA Network will be around for some time to come... at least 5 more years.
 
Sure, an iPhone that did both CDMA and GSM would be technologically hard to pull off however I've heard that many phone manufacturers have made two versions of their phones to support the incompatible formats... Apple could have OWNED the smartphone market in the US but made a deal with the provider with the worst network. It didn't make sense. Although if it is true that Verizon was offered the iPhone (unlikely because of the obvious incompatibility with the rest of the world not running CDMA) then perhaps a lot of the problem is Verizon trying to dictate to Apple what they would allow...


Didn't RIM have a black berry model on Sprint that would roam on GSM internationally?

/b
 
hmmmm..... i'd be interested if the price is better and service is good. I don't really use the iPhone as a phone much so although the calls get dropped from time to time, it's not enough to make me leave them other than a better price.

Does anyone on here currently have Sprint with a smart phone/data plan in the northern NJ/NYC area? Just wondering how the service is.

Of course, this is just a rumor i know.
 
Because the current mobile ecosystem didn't exist back then. The only phones Verizon sold had giant Verizon logos both on the phone and in 50 places in the interface and were customized to trick you into spending more money. Apple didn't want any of that so Verizon turned them away.

There were other elements also. Apple wanted certain financial arrangements that only AT&T was willing to accept, in exchange for exclusivity.
 
Sprint

The Sprint side of the business has actually grown customers. It's been the Nextel side that's been bleeding customers viciously. I've had Sprint for at least 10 years now and there were definitely customer service issues several years back. However, they've made improvements and actually have passed AT&T recently for customer service, which is good because there's been a very negative opinion of Sprint by many.

If Sprint does get the iPhone, it will be on a more expensive plan than normal, but I'm guessing they will undercut AT&T's iPhone plans. Sprint operates on a much narrower margin than AT&T or Verizon. Before AT&T and Verizon cut pricing, there was a $600/year difference between Sprint and AT&T/Verizon on the all everything plans. I think it's down to $20-30/mo. now.

Sprint does need to make an aggressive play to speed the company back to growth and it wouldn't surprise me if they worked a deal with Apple to get the iPhone. Also, Sprint recently announced it wouldn't sell Google's NexusOne phone after all after it was originally supposed to sell it. It could be a coincidence or it could have been part of a deal with Apple.
 
we want to open the Market on the iPhone so coming this fall the iPhone also goes live to Sprint Verizon and T-Mobile.

Lots of posts here, so someone may have realized this already....

The iPhone has always been released/updated in July. So everyone who bought one right when it went on sale (like me) is tied to an AT&T 2-year contract that expires during July. Naturally, I'd love to get the upcoming iPhone, since my AT&T contract will be expiring. But I'm also considering a shift to Verizon if that carrier is announced.

So if Verizon (and others) won't be coming on board until the fall, I'm in a dilemma. If I get the new iPhone right away, I'll be stuck with AT&T for another two years -- with the new higher ETF. If I decide to wait till the fall, I've got a few more months with my old iPhone. But will AT&T let me simply pay month-by-month, or will they want to lock me in again, even with my old iPhone? I can see them wanting to lock me in, to make sure I don't jump ship.
 
Lots of posts here, so someone may have realized this already....

The iPhone has always been released/updated in July. So everyone who bought one right when it went on sale (like me) is tied to an AT&T 2-year contract that expires during July. Naturally, I'd love to get the upcoming iPhone, since my AT&T contract will be expiring. But I'm also considering a shift to Verizon if that carrier is announced.

So if Verizon (and others) won't be coming on board until the fall, I'm in a dilemma. If I get the new iPhone right away, I'll be stuck with AT&T for another two years -- with the new higher ETF. If I decide to wait till the fall, I've got a few more months with my old iPhone. But will AT&T let me simply pay month-by-month, or will they want to lock me in again, even with my old iPhone? I can see them wanting to lock me in, to make sure I don't jump ship.

Sounds like you never had a cell contract before?

Contract is 2 years, if you don't extend it, it continues at current terms after 2 years, but you are free to leave after your contract expired.

However the whole verizon thing is a bit silly.
 
I'm excited to see the iPhone branch out to other carriers.

But then again, the more I think about it, the more I don't like the idea.

I feel the iPhone still has the unique, fresh feel to it.
When all major carriers get it, it's going to go from "You have an iPhone, sweet! let me see it!" to "Shocking, you have an iPhone too" and they're going to be littered everywhere.

Anyone else feel this way? :(

Maybe, but think of it this way: What is a "win" for apple's market share over google/android? Being in more users hands, right? For this to happen apple will have to sell more iPhones than N1, Evo4G, Incredible, etc... COMBINED. (this is not likely yo happen BTW, at least not without opening to 4 major carriers and diversifying the iphone product line) The alternative is that Google continues to put android on many devices (more and more each day) with Apple's market share falling and falling. This may not be a bad thing for Apple as they will still make a crapload of money, almost guaranteed to have more market share than any ONE of the droid phones. (they make money in Hardware, remember). That won't stop the tech press from putting the word "paltry" in front of the iPHones market share when writing/blogging about it, however....
 
Lots of posts here, so someone may have realized this already....

The iPhone has always been released/updated in July. So everyone who bought one right when it went on sale (like me) is tied to an AT&T 2-year contract that expires during July. Naturally, I'd love to get the upcoming iPhone, since my AT&T contract will be expiring. But I'm also considering a shift to Verizon if that carrier is announced.

So if Verizon (and others) won't be coming on board until the fall, I'm in a dilemma. If I get the new iPhone right away, I'll be stuck with AT&T for another two years -- with the new higher ETF. If I decide to wait till the fall, I've got a few more months with my old iPhone. But will AT&T let me simply pay month-by-month, or will they want to lock me in again, even with my old iPhone? I can see them wanting to lock me in, to make sure I don't jump ship.


One you completed your two year contract you can leave without ETF anytime. IF you get another subsidized phone then you will need to sign a contract extension at that time which will lock you up for another two years.

I am sitting in a similar situation. I will hold on to my old iPhone at least till end of July if not into Sept just to see which way the wind blows. Is Verizon or Sprint getting the iPhone. How's the actual review by users for Evo 4G? Then I will vote with my $$$.
 
No, they did stop by Sprint. Forsee(old CEO) talked to Jobs about it as Apple was going around to EVERY carrier pitching the iPhone. I think Sprint balked for the same reasons that Verizon did. I hate At&t for many reasons but i give them credit with the foresight to bank on the iPhone and change the game in many ways.

I am curious to read about that, do you have a link to the news?
 
Why would Apple care what the ads said about ATT?

The Island of Misfit Toys painted the iPhone as a good device on a poor network.

Negative is negative, regardless. The ads were painting the user experience as a poor one and used the iPhone to illustrate it. If Verizon were hoping to get the iPhone on their network, it was a dumb move to use the iPhone in their ads in that way. They could have made their point about AT&T's network without using the iPhone.
 
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Here in NYC Sprint is very good and AT&T is horrible. Every iPhone user I talk to say they drop several calls daily! thats just unacceptable. Meanwhile I can't remember the last drop call I had on sprint. So please bring the iPhone to Sprint so I can finally get a new iPhone

You can swap NYC for UNITED STATES. ATT is horrible everywhere. They're so bad I just cancelled my service with them. The iPhone is not worth putting up with that lousy service anymore. If Apple announces Sprint will be a carrier, I'll go with them, if not then Android gets my money. See how that works, Apple? Choices. Customers like having choices.
 
Precisely. Your thinking is logical. Unfortunately, Apple often behaves illogically, which would explain why Apple has not offered the iPhone through T-Mobile. Yeah, I know that T-Mobile uses the 1700 MHz band for 3G, but how hard is it to come up with a multi-band radio that includes that frequency, too?

Actually, there was nothing illogical about what Apple did.

Arn explains in an earlier post why Apple had to offer a carrier exclusivity. They had a lot of demands (necessary, IMO. You would have an AT&T logo, and no app store if it wasn't for this) in return for which they had to offer exclusivity. Don't forget that when the iPhone was announced, it was only a few weeks before that Cingular's CEO (yeah, Apple had partnered with Cingular originally, which merged with AT&T between the announcement and launch dates...crazy) had even seen the device.
 
I'm excited to see the iPhone branch out to other carriers.

But then again, the more I think about it, the more I don't like the idea.

I feel the iPhone still has the unique, fresh feel to it.
When all major carriers get it, it's going to go from "You have an iPhone, sweet! let me see it!" to "Shocking, you have an iPhone too" and they're going to be littered everywhere.

Anyone else feel this way? :(

No, but then again I'm not an elitist jerk.
 
Man this would be nice. Verizon would be forced to compete on price, so would ATT, as Sprint has their 69.99 plan. Although I assume that Sprint's data add on would be more for the iPhone, I could see them undercutting everyone on price.

I love market competition! See this Adobe? it's called companies competing with and for the best product- notice how they aren't sitting around and bitching about things.
 
Go for it!

This would be a great choice for Apple I think, it would would bring in tons of new customers for Apple, and propel their stock even further. Along with that my friends could finally get iPhones! So bring it on Apple, make us proud!
 
The other variable is the EVO. How long is Sprint putting that forward as their flagship phone? Only a month or so? Doubtful.

I think they could co-exist. I doubt that Apple would build in support for 4g on the new iPhone, and even if they did, I just see them as two different phones. I guess the "I hate everything Apple" crowd would still have their device. :)
 
Personally, I am really indifferent to all these carriers. I never realized any quality differences between sprint and AT&T. Sometimes it just seems that all these differences are voiced mainly by whiney people who like to blow things out of proportion.

You don't get out of your house much do you?

All the "whiney" people are people that use their mobile phone to be... well mobile. Us "whiney" people travel around the USA and want to be able to stay connected when we do. I can't even travel around my state and stay connected with AT&T, but I can with Verizon.
But that's just for my area. Were I to live elsewhere, I might enjoy great AT&T or Sprint service, but I don't so what is there to do but look forward to the day I could have the advantages of the iPhone and a reliable connection via Verizon.
 
OK, so Verizon's almost certain to get the iPhone, and Sprint's possibly going to get it as well… am I missing something? What about T-mobile! They already have a GSM network, though of course Apple would have to put a 1700MHz antenna in there, but that's trivial compared to a CDMA version. Why haven't there been any rumors of T-Mobile getting the iPhone?

I'm a T-Mobile customer, btw, so I'm especially interested in that possibility.

jW
The lack of T-Mobile rumors is good news. The Verizon rumors have been numerous and some of them have been absolutely absurd.

Apple's partners usually clam up real tight when there's a deal in the works. The Verizon CEO (and other execs) are big blabbermouths, implying that there is no deal in the works.

This Sprint rumor comes from some dubious sources. Amongst the most dubious are retail employees (Best Buy, cellphone retail); they typically aren't given any notification until very, very late.

If Apple were to end carrier exclusivity in the United States, the most logical next step would be to open up to T-Mobile USA (another GSM carrier with UTMS 3G data services). Adding the AWS band to the 3G radio on the iPhone is a no-brainer, and T-Mobile would probably have to do little work (mostly set up servers to handle Visual Voicemail). Apple could easily test a T-Mobile iPhone quite steathily.

Since there has been no hiring surge of CDMA engineers at Apple, it is unlikely that we would see an iPhone at Verizon or Sprint in the near future anyhow.
 
Negative is negative, regardless. The ads were painting the user experience as a poor one and used the iPhone to illustrate it. If Verizon were hoping to get the iPhone on their network, it was a dumb move to use the iPhone in their ads in that way. They could have made their point about AT&T's network without using the iPhone.

I agree, but I doubt the sacks full of money Apple would earn are less important that a cheap shot at the network the iPhone is on, or the iPhone itself.

No, but then again I'm not an elitist jerk.

Agreed and see below.

While this might give Apple a lot more customers, I think it will take a little bit of the "wow" factor that iPhone has gained sice it has been exclusive to AT&T. iPhone is seen as a high-end smart phone like most of Apple's products and when it is opened up too everyone that high-end factor could go away.

You also sound like an elitist jerk even though your precious iPhone is being sold at . . . . wait for it . . . Walmart! :rolleyes:

I think they could co-exist. I doubt that Apple would build in support for 4g on the new iPhone, and even if they did, I just see them as two different phones. I guess the "I hate everything Apple" crowd would still have their device. :)

Not only could they co-exist, they wouldn't be in the same class. The EVO would still be flagship, and the iPhone would in no way be above that phone. The "I love everything Apple no matter what crowd" really needs to get off their high horse and see that Android and WebOS has major advantages over iPhone OS3 and OS4. Pair either of those previous OSes to a device made by HTC and it just hurts the iPhone.

The only thing missing is iTunes sync, and well, that's not that big of a deal to many.
 
Sprint branded iPhone?

Rumors are out that iPhone is going to come to Sprint this summer, but does that mean that it will now get Sprint branded on the front like other smartphones at Sprint???
 
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