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Apple took too long to get the iPhone on Sprint. I have a Epic 4G & my next phone is gonna be a Nexus Prime. But then again, I don't know what the iPhone has to offer yet...
 
Stop calling Wimax 4G. It is not 4G. It was never ratified as a cellular phone data transport let alone 4G. It was meant to be used as a Wide Area Network Wifi standard for computers and hotspots to run beside cellular network as a supplement to them.

It is slower than both HSPA+ and LTE.
 
it doesn't seem to me that wimax is even a cellular technology tho.

It is, along with CDMA and GSM, which is why there are talks about Sprint going both LTE and WiMax.

Stop calling Wimax 4G. It is not 4G. It was never ratified as a cellular phone data transport let alone 4G. It was meant to be used as a Wide Area Network Wifi standard for computers and hotspots to run beside cellular network as a supplement to them.

It is slower than both HSPA+ and LTE.

But it is! and WiMax is a smidgen faster than LTE . . . maybe not LTE Advanced.
 
It is, along with CDMA and GSM, which is why there are talks about Sprint going both LTE and WiMax.

It is not part of either the GSM or CDMA upgrade paths past or present. The upgrade path for CDMA died and everyone is going LTE which is an evolution of HSPA. Just because Sprint is pushing WiMax as a kludge addon to CDMA, it does not mean that it was every part of any cellular standard.

Wimax is a wide area network wireless standard. It evolved out of Wifi, not EVDO or HSPA.

You are still not getting, it. Wimax was not originally intended to be a cellular network transport and nobody other than Sprint is using it other than Clearwire which is not a cell phone company.
 
Stop calling Wimax 4G. It is not 4G. It was never ratified as a cellular phone data transport let alone 4G. It was meant to be used as a Wide Area Network Wifi standard for computers and hotspots to run beside cellular network as a supplement to them.

It is slower than both HSPA+ and LTE.

lol, so you're one of THOSE people.
 
It is not part of either the GSM or CDMA upgrade paths past or present. The upgrade path for CDMA died and everyone is going LTE which is an evolution of HSPA. Just because Sprint is pushing WiMax as a kludge addon to CDMA, it does not mean that it was every part of any cellular standard.

Wimax is a wide area network wireless standard. It evolved out of Wifi, not EVDO or HSPA.

You are still not getting, it. Wimax was not originally intended to be a cellular network transport and nobody other than Sprint is using it other than Clearwire which is not a cell phone company.

Official Link? Not someone's blogpost if possible.

It's been that way since the International Telecommunication Union declared it as such . . . or am I missing something?
 
I'm really hoping they open it up to all carriers, including prepaid like Virgin Mobile.

Virgin Mobile is Sprint.
"... Sprint Nextel said Tuesday that it will buy Virgin Mobile USA for $5.50 per share in a stock deal valued at $483 million.

Sprint already owns 13.1 percent of the prepaid mobile operator
... "
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-10297090-94.html

The deal completed that November. Wisely, Sprint uses a separate entity to market the pre-paid plans and phone to get market segmentation, but it is the same infrastructure.

That's one reason Sprint is right in that it will be a mistake to let Verizon and ATT buy a huge of the spectrum. While it looks like there are multiple carriers out there a large fraction of them are just bulk resellers. They can be toasted at any time if the majors change the terms to being unfavorable.


But yes. Sprint getting the iPhone means that the following year or two it can trickle down to Virgin Mobile and the other operators to leverage off of Sprints base network. ( likewise carriers like US Cellular which leverage off of Verizon can get it too). I imagine that Sprint it going to keep it out of Virgin Mobile line up until they make good money off the iPhone on their subscription plans. Besides without a contract "credit payment plan" (subsidy) the iPhone are a bit expensive for contract free ( for the US market conditioned consumers. )

If Apple doesn't shut down the 3GS production line maybe Virgin would get one of those. I still think that Apple will need something like a tweaked 3GS to make headway into the worldwide pre-pay market. Just chopping the 4G down to 8G isn't going to lower the cost that much. The "Retina" screen and some other components are expensive also.
 
Official Link? Not someone's blogpost if possible.

Here are a few links but you really could not be lazy and google it for yourself like a big boy.

http://theartofservice.com/ieee-802-16-–-the-origin-of-wimax.html

http://quantumwimax.com/index.php?page=History-of-Wimax

Wimax is also known as 802.16 whereas it's cousin is known as 802.11 a/b/g/n. Your first clue should be the "Wi" in Wimax" and "802." prefix in 802.16 but you go ahead and believe whatever you want.

Do you work for Sprint or something? Every bloody browser out there has a search field so do your own searching for crying out loud. Don't be lazy and just believe the marketing hype of sprint.

What you are missing is that Wi-fi is also recognized by that group. That means nothing. It just is not used by other cellular companies.
 
In before hundreds of posts! :D

Widening of choices is awesome! I hope the oligopoly ends up lowering their plans a bit
 
It's not about the phone, it's about the approach. You can't tell me that these crummy moto's, LG's, samsungs are legitimate when the pop a new one out every few months. They're all junk. The thing they said was the best was some HUGE brick. Can't remember, but it was not even close to comparable to an iPhone. I even explained the cloud capabilities, itunes, my macs, mobileme and the idiots didn't get it. If you want me to switch and I like my iPhone, you'd have to sell me on services not hardware. But, they're lowly salespeople so whatever.

It's a junk carrier. Everyone knows that, look at their financials. Bleeding badly to say the least.

I own an iPhone, love it and I'm looking forward to the next iteration. However, you couldn't possibly be more wrong about other phones. The Motorola Photon, for example, is a FANTASTIC device. As responsive and fast as the 4, with a brilliant screen. The phone's build quality is great too. It's easily the equal to the 4, and depending on your needs, possibly even its superior. That manufacturers are pushing out new hardware every few weeks doesn't change the fact that there are some outstanding non-Apple phones out there. If Apple gave out iOS for free, you'd see the same thing - lots of new phones pushed out constantly, only a few jewels in the mix.

And trying to "prove" that Apple is better by bringing up MobileMe is...kinda insane. MobileMe is junk. I own just about every Apple product imaginable and I still refuse to offer a dime for it.
 
Also, I wish this doesn't end up hurting Virgin Mobile unlimited for $35/$40 :(

(Virgin Mobile is Sprint's prepaid branch)
 
I wonder if Sprint's sudden rumbling on the LTE front are related to this.

the iPhone specially? No. Getting easier access to "4G" ( LTE) phones and cell tower equipment? Yes.

If anyone of substantive size had followed sprint into WiMax zone the perhaps it would make sense to stay "out there". But since LTE is overtly designed to be a transitionary technology platform (to the real 4G) it would make sense for them to adapt and repurpose their spectrum ( or their proxy to the spectrum through Clear which they helped bulk up in the first place. )
 
You do all realize that Sprint's data speeds are nearly identical to EDGE speeds which are 2G speeds. Almost impossible to hit 1Mbps on Sprint. When I had the Evo 3D I averaged around 40Kbps-800Kbps. Rarely did I ever hit 1Mbps. Now if the next gen iPhone supports their WiMax that would be great. I got 12Mbps down on WiMax.
 
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I can't *wait* to tell AT&T to **** off! :)
 
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Please let it work with SERO please let it work with SERO please let it work with SERO....
 
Mid October...late September...which is it going to be? These iPhone 5 rumors are all over the place

Exactly. Now the rumors are for mid October????

uhh... I wouldn't exactly say all over the place. It's got a pretty solid 2-3 week window narrowed down. Considering how I'm not 100% sold that even Apple has a rock solid drop dead release date yet, I think a 2-3 week window is good. I expect a media event within a month, we should get all the specifics then.

I agree! People forget things (like facts):

1) They're rumors.
2) Apple hasn't been moving dates.
c) Apple hasn't even announced the iPhone 5 yet!

Gary

i wouldnt be surprised if it comes out mid october if the invite for the event isnt released next week. iOS5 isnt even in GM for devs and this usually happens way ahead

In the past, hasn't a new release been at the very end of a fiscal quarter? Like within the last two days of a fiscal quarter? This gives a boost to both the ending quarter and starts off the new one with an immediate gain. Both quarters benefit.

Going by that, I'd guess that the iPhone 5 will be released then. Whenever that date is.
 
GSM vs CDMA

If you're grandfathered into AT&T's unlimited data plan then good. If not, then wait for Sprint to get the iPhone "X" with an unlimited data plan. Both GSM and CDMA have their pros and cons. With GSM one can make phone calls and surf the web, woohoo! :D

I have an iPhone 4 with AT&T and I only pay $57 a month. I have discount and I have my SMS/MMS disabled; I use Pinger's Text Free with Voice app.

Just my opinion...
 
If Apple doesn't shut down the 3GS production line maybe Virgin would get one of those. I still think that Apple will need something like a tweaked 3GS to make headway into the worldwide pre-pay market. Just chopping the 4G down to 8G isn't going to lower the cost that much. The "Retina" screen and some other components are expensive also.

All they really need to do is put in the cheaper parts used in the iPod touch. Regular LCD in place of things like the IPS display, smaller camera, etc. They can easily sell that for $300. Also, there are much more modern Android prepaid phones than the 3GS available now, like the Motorola Triumph, so they'll definitely have to bring something iPhone 4 caliber to prepaid.
 
Hmmm, it'll be nice for AT&T and Verizon to have some competition. The more carriers with iPhones te better.
 
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