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i wish quicklook would work with stacks as well (by pressing spacebar on stacks item). hope this update will bring that function too.
 
Amen. This is good news as stacks implementation doesn't work well for some folders (e.g Applications, Documents) IMO. I'm glad they're expanding the choice we have rather than eliminating it altogether as I stlll don't mind using stacks for my downloads... that makes sense to me as the user.

Now... If they'd just fix the finder "bug" regarding the green or "+" expansion button to behave consistently with almost EVERY OTHER APPLICATION to expand what I'm viewing to FULL SCREEN! This drives me nuts!! I hate having to constantly resize my finder windows to fit the content I'm viewing!

Oh well, Leopard is still a great operating system and will likely improve considerably as they work out the issues we all find.

Peace all,
Will
 
The audio/video preview in Finder was replaced with the new -- and far improved in my opinion -- QuickLook functionality. Just hit the space bar when your audio or video file is selected in the Finder. All your controls are there and even easier to see and use.

:)

Sure, but on my machine there's a delay in QL popping up. The old way was WAY faster. And as others have said, you can't leave it playing and go do something else.
 
Wooooohooo! :D


Thank god! That annoying mess of pixels which is the \"stack\" icon was one of my main complaints. I cant wait for this!

And I\'m glad they\'ve tidied up the grid view too... the little pointy bit on the bottom looks a bit off at the moment. Looking at the screenshot, it looks way better.

Just for the record, let me restate: wooooohooooo.

Is the dock in that screenshot modified with a 3rd party app or are they adding dock options in 10.5.2 as well??? I want airport disk for Time Machine :)
 
Naah

Bad move, I want it to stay as it was in 10.5.0.

Just kidding! I cannot imagine anybody that would NOT change it back to the way it worked in Tiger.

This means that Apple has ears. Hopefully, we will see an Advanced settings in the firewall prefs. And solid color menu bar.
 
thank you apple for changing this as this is seriously my number one complaint about leopard (when the os is so good, you have to pick on something!! :) )

Of course, and as soon as they fix Stacks most likely you'll pick on something else.:p
 
This and ringtones from garageband in the same week... Apple are regaining their sanity! Wonderful news! This was THE worst thing about Leopard compared to Tiger in my opinion.

I'll have to change my sig soon... !
 
This is exactly what I want for my dock! I want to know what folder they are in, but also see what is inside them at a glance. I miss my home folder being the house, and using it in list view. Now it shows up as a dissorgonized stack.
How did you do that?
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Erased
 
No icon? You need this:

Stack.jpg

Wow, that rainbow colored dock is not for me.
 
Thank God List View Is Back

I relied heavily on the ability to keep my Applications folder along other folders in the Dock. The new Stacks feature doesn't work with the Applications folder because it contains too many items.

The Stacks feature seems counter productive for any folder with more than about 12 items since I find myself having to go to the Finder to click on the item anyway.

The exception being the Downloads folder because it is sorted by date and has the most recent item--that is, the item I just downloaded and want to open.

By the way, didn't Apple originally have this idea for Copland aka the original System 8? I remember seeing a demo of a feature (I think at a BMUG conference in 1995) called Stacks that had an icon on the Desktop.
 
Since the seed thread seems to have died quickly, I'll ask this here.

Does anyone know if 10.5.2 contains any changes to Spotlight? Like giving us the Tiger version of the Spotlight window back instead of the glorified smart folder...
 
If you also noticed

Someone posted a video the other day of how Stacks originally worked in Leopard.

It seems that it wasn't supposed to be a replacement for a folder-in-the-dock. Instead, it was a new feature where any files and apps from any folders could be stacked together in a single spot on your dock, in addition to folders. I guess during testing, though, Apple decided it was confusing that stacks looked like docked folders, but behaved differently; and in the end, they ditched the real Stacks and renamed docked folders as Stacks, copying over some of the visual similarities and eliminating the most useful features of docked folders.

We went from:
Stacks + Folders

to:
Folders with special effects and missing features
(but they called it Stacks and thought we wouldn't notice)

It's nice that Apple's finally restoring docked folders the way we like them, but it's a little unfortunate that they felt superficially mimicking a failed feature (stacks) to save face (after all, they'd already been marketing Stacks) was better then just eliminating it or coming up with a better solution.

Also if you noticed the arbitrary separation between folders/apps/links/windows was removed in the early version of the Leopard Dock. I have always thought this separation to be contradictory to what the dock is for. Especially when it comes to minimized windows. Why can't the Dock minimize a window next to the parent app?
But I thought for sure that stacks would be really useful when I first saw them demoed and I believe that most people that complained also thought stacks was a separate feature. I would love to see the arbitrary grouping restored. This would be great for projects... .imagine keeping all your documents and the applications that you are using for a project in one place.. then when your done just drag it off the dock and the grouping is gone. No extra work. No moving files to a specific folder or any of that stuff.

I really would like to know if anyone has tried installing the version of the Dock from the early developer builds of leopard? I bet we would find that it is a completely different app than the current version of the dock.

the dude
 
Since the seed thread seems to have died quickly, I'll ask this here.

Does anyone know if 10.5.2 contains any changes to Spotlight? Like giving us the Tiger version of the Spotlight window back instead of the glorified smart folder...

I want Tiger's spotlight back too with Leopard's fastness... it makes me want to cry sometimes how backwards it is now.
 
This is certainly good news.

Now Apple needs to turn it's attention to Spaces, specifically:

1. How apps inappropriately steal control. iChat, printers, I am looking at you.

2. Finder, desktop, and printers need to be re-thought how they relate to spaces

Then, getting wireless to work reliably would be nice.

Then, actually getting Back to Mac to work would be nice.


Once that is all done there is, of course, the hundreds of other bugs which need addressing. (Mail, Safari, I am looking at you.)
 
I would love to see the arbitrary grouping restored. This would be great for projects... .imagine keeping all your documents and the applications that you are using for a project in one place.. then when your done just drag it off the dock and the grouping is gone. No extra work. No moving files to a specific folder or any of that stuff.

that would be pretty cool.
 
Ridiculously complicated, for people who have been taught by Microsoft that the only way to find/launch applications is to have an exhaustive list in a pop-up menu.

It might seem to make sense, from a Windows perspective, but ultimately it will make your life harder as you miss the REAL, MacOS X ways to quickly run programs.

I'm going to guess that your comment is in jest... because it makes no sense. Hierarchical folders in the dock are (were, soon to be again) part of Mac OS X. This makes them one of the "real" ways as you put it. Your reasoning is that since they took the feature out, its no longer one of the real ways? Guess that must be why they're putting it right back in.
 
Oh

man oh man, I wish they fix the repair permission thing, still wait a long ass time for something so simple from the previous OS. Come on leopard you can do better then this, or I will switch to the other thing, god I hate microsoft!:mad:
 
Here's to hoping they'll fix the Spotlight "show all" window by changing it to look like it did in Tiger.

It went from this:
tigerspotlight2.jpg

to this:
spotlightleopard.png
 
Here's to hoping they'll fix the Spotlight "show all" window by changing it to look like it did in Tiger.

It went from this:
tigerspotlight2.jpg

to this:
spotlightleopard.png

yeh i hate the new spotlight show all window now too although i like thats its actually in a finder window now so you can use finder keyboard shortcuts. but you cant leave the window a custom size and file types other than images dont even have icon previews!?? WTF?
 
GREAT! I agree with others, stacks does not work with the applications folder or the documents folder very well. I can't wait to turn those back into lists once again. In my opinion, the only place a stack works well is the Downloads folder.

Quoted for truth!
The icon for a 'stack' needs work, and given the option to go back to it being a 'normal' icon... then I'll certainly be keeping the downloads folder on my dock as a stack. And then I'll be adding back the Documents folder... as a hierarchical folder Tiger style. I just use Spotlight as my app launcher, so no need to have that in the dock.
 
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