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Stacks updated in 10.5.2

motulist said:
I know the couple of you who made this comment are just joking, but it's also completely false. Not only was this functionality in all the previous OX X versions already before it was (temporarily) removed in leopard 10.5, but it's been there since at least Mac OS 7.5 way back in 1995.

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more pictures here:
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Woah, woah, woahhh motu, slow down. You are WAY off. Windows did this first. If you look at your picture closely, note that you have to click the top of the screen to see the "start" menu. The windows picture I showed is clearly has the "start" menu at the bottom, like leopard is trying to copy.

BUT! I will say, the mac idea of clicking the "start" :apple: to "shut down" is genius. Windows could learn a thing or two.

;)


-Ado
 
How does the Automatic option on the View As menu work with the new List option? What makes the system decide whether to show a Grid or a List?
 
Just Saw This

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU Apple.

Probably one of the stupidest things leopard did ignoring all that "this doesn't work stuff", but at least Apple is fixing it.
 
V.K. said:
this is great news! what's not clear to me from the picture is whether the full hierarchical functionality in the list view is restored. I must say this is what I miss the most.
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This is one of the things I'd really like to know as well. That and whether that includes drag and drop functionality.
 
quicklook does not replace column view media controls

Aldebaran said:
The audio/video preview in Finder was replaced with the new -- and far improved in my opinion -- QuickLook functionality. Just hit the space bar when your audio or video file is selected in the Finder. All your controls are there and even easier to see and use.
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i do love quicklook. however, it's a great new feature, but not an adequate replacement of the old feature. with quicklook, getting the controls to pop up requires an added keystroke, and then it goes away if you need to do any other action (it can't be in the background). quicklook has been great for me in a lot of ways, but my workflow is still interrupted by the removal of the proper controls in column view.

for instance, i used to use it all the time to preview/play audio files, including setting the volume and selecting the place in the track to play, and then leave it going in the background. i miss that, and hope it comes back.
 
Sharewaredemon said:
Here's something that bugs me.

When you command click a folder in the dock to open it in the Finder, it doesn't actually put you IN the folder.

So say you have your pictures folder in the dock, you command click it and it opens in finder in column view, if you start typing the name of an image you want to find, it will instead select the file/folder in your HOME folder that is closest to what you typed. It's unbelievably annoying.
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You're using it wrong. A regular click will open the folder, but a Cmd-click takes you to that item. Just think about how much flack Apple would get if they introduced two different behaviors for Cmd-click... one for apps, one for folders.
 
le sacre said:
i do love quicklook. however, it's a great new feature, but not an adequate replacement of the old feature. with quicklook, getting the controls to pop up requires an added keystroke, and then it goes away if you need to do any other action (it can't be in the background). quicklook has been great for me in a lot of ways, but my workflow is still interrupted by the removal of the proper controls in column view.

for instance, i used to use it all the time to preview/play audio files, including setting the volume and selecting the place in the track to play, and then leave it going in the background. i miss that, and hope it comes back.
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right on.. that column view preview is missed by me 2..!!
wana choice!:cool:
couldnt live without quicklook now, especially with all the codecs which you can add...!!
 
Yay!!!

so excited that hierarchical navigation is coming back!!

i've tried to use that HierarchicalDock app, but find that the performance lag is just too much for it to be useful. plus i miss being able to still drag items onto those folders.

i was so keyed up about this that i went to great lengths to spread around the os x feedback page URL. i wonder, realistically, to what extent spontaneous consumer feedback played a role in this decision (if it's really happening), vs. professional reviews, vs. plans apple already had.
 
It's nice to see Apple added the list feature. I would too, if I got emails like: "OH MY GOD! You mother*******! I can't believe you! Are you guys retarded!!!!!!!!?!?!? Give us back our Tiger List view!!! Or else I will kill you and your children1!??!?!?? I AM SO MAD!!"

Anyway, seeing things in list view is okay, but Stacks could be better because it's visual-oriented. But Apple needs to implement a few things to Stacks for it to be great. Like, being able to navigate through sub-folders, and being able to use Quick Look. Grouping any selection of things to be a Stack. You know... like in the old videos.

If Apple restored the blue-penciled features of the original Stacks, it could seriously be several steps ahead of the list view.
 
blairb666 said:
Dude, don't be an ***hole. Every single OS X user I know put their Apps folder in their dock. This includes newbies such as my parents, who both figured out that dragging it there provided them with a handy quick right-click menu. To say that A. its a small population, and B. those people are whiners is just completely ridiculous, condescending, insulting, and arrogant.
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I've never put my Applications folder in my Dock. If I use the App frequently, I put it in the apps section of the Dock and if I don't use it that much, it's not a big deal to find it in the Finder for the rare occasion that I use it. That's the way I am used to working. I used to have my hard drive icon in the Dock but, I can't remember that ever being useful because if you ever accidentally clicked or moved wrong you could be starting all over again looking through subfolders.
 
Adokimus said:
Woah, woah, woahhh motu, slow down. You are WAY off. Windows did this first. If you look at your picture closely, note that you have to click the top of the screen to see the "start" menu. The windows picture I showed is clearly has the "start" menu at the bottom, like leopard is trying to copy.

BUT! I will say, the mac idea of clicking the "start" :apple: to "shut down" is genius. Windows could learn a thing or two.

;)

-Ado
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Well, if you knew what you were talking about, you might have some credibility.

The ability to customize the Apple menu goes way back. I remember doing it with System 6.0.4. The "shutdown" icon you see in that screenshot was a custom-added item, not a built-in option. That particular user added that item to the menu. The "bullet" character at the beginning of the name was a trick to keep that item at the bottom of the menu. The built-in way to shutdown was to go to the Special menu. System 7 added hierarchal folder access through the Apple menu. Apple was not copying Windows here, it was a natural progression of the interface.
 
coolfactor said:
Well, if you knew what you were talking about, you might have some credibility.

The ability to customize the Apple menu goes way back. I remember doing it with System 6.0.4. The "shutdown" icon you see in that screenshot was a custom-added item, not a built-in option. That particular user added that item to the menu. The "bullet" character at the beginning of the name was a trick to keep that item at the bottom of the menu. The built-in way to shutdown was to go to the Special menu. System 7 added hierarchal folder access through the Apple menu. Apple was not copying Windows here, it was a natural progression of the interface.
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QTF. Apple is not copying windows and how is the Dock a "start" menu now? Also, in Windows, how many start menus can you have? Leopard can have as many stacks as you wish.
 
Aldebaran said:
The audio/video preview in Finder was replaced with the new -- and far improved in my opinion -- QuickLook functionality. Just hit the space bar when your audio or video file is selected in the Finder. All your controls are there and even easier to see and use.

:)
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Question: How do you start a preview of an audio file, then switch to iChat (or any App) and still have the Finder continue to play the file? This feature seems somewhat like the days before multi-tasking where you can only do 1 thing at a time. If I wanna preview a file, I have to stay in the Finder and not click ANYTHING to continue playing that file... seems a little weird to me.
 
milo said:
Totally agree with this. The new preview view in columns is a major step back from the old way, replacing a play/volume/slider with one big fat PLAY button? Makes no sense, the only thing I can think of is that they wanted to encourage people to hit spacebar to use Quick View. I still would like an option to put it back the old way.

I'm surprised more people didn't notice this change, I think this is the first comment I've read about it.
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I agree completely. I especially hate the way it displays audio files as movies.

The old way was much better.
 
Let's start complaining about this one and maybe Apple will fix it in 10.5.3!!!
 
Aldebaran said:
The audio/video preview in Finder was replaced with the new -- and far improved in my opinion -- QuickLook functionality. Just hit the space bar when your audio or video file is selected in the Finder. All your controls are there and even easier to see and use.

:)
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Still no volume controls there either...
and an EXTRA button to push for SOME of the old functions.

improved... really?
 
Oh my god! I hate the new dock color!!!! Hopefully we'll be asked to keep the actual dock color! Can someone tell me when it becomes available... I don't want to update if you must have this black doc!
 
M!K said:
Oh my god! I hate the new dock color!!!! Hopefully we'll be asked to keep the actual dock color! Can someone tell me when it becomes available... I don't want to update if you must have this black doc!
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Its a custom dock...
 
Aldebaran said:
The audio/video preview in Finder was replaced with the new -- and far improved in my opinion -- QuickLook functionality. Just hit the space bar when your audio or video file is selected in the Finder. All your controls are there and even easier to see and use.

:)
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Agreed. QuickLook rocks.
 
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