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That's cool, thanks for your input. I think our needs/wants/desires/expectations are very different. As will be the case across the population. I definitely use my AW a lot, and actually prefer not to pull out my phone in public if I can help it; the AW notifys me of something and if it needs further immediate attention I can choose to act upon it by taking my phone out, or act on it from the watch quickly if need be.

Again, I personally find the health and fitness aspects of the AW lacking in some respects; it's nice to see my HR throughout the day, but the Health app is a mess for me, and I use (and prefer) my Garmin for running.

PS: Good to hear you joined the HR study; it seems to be very useful and I'm excited to see how the health monitoring progresses. Again, just wish the Health app is improved as I find it doesn't work well for me when it imports data from other sources like Garmin Connect and Strava.

Comeping back at you, it's interesting to hear another viewpoint. If you don't mind saying, where are you approximately in age? I'm in the 55-60 band, which I know affects my perspectives.

I agree that Health is a disorganized mess with too many potential inputs, but right now I'm happy to just be collect the data and bundling it in one place. I also agree that there are many wearables that do parts of what the AW does better. My take on the field, having owned or used a number of them, is that given my activist and health interests, the AW is for me the best single device answer. And, having a lifetime history of various cardiac irregularities, the heart study is of special interest.

I am getting a little laugh thinking of the current thread about Otterbox cases scratching phones and people saying "I don't use a case and I have never dropped a phone." I guess the AW is a good way to make that happen. :D
 
My partner had an aluminium, but as soon as she saw my SS had to have one. We both agree SS looks much nicer and it feels more substantial. The aluminium Watch feels like a toy in comparison. The price difference is rediculous. She bought a cheap SS digital watch for casual use - 10 euros, 10 euros for a whole SS watch, brings a certain realization to the over charging of Apple (220 euros extra for SS (and better screen)). Will be getting a S3 LTE when they launch here, but I am not sure if I will be willing to pay the extra to go SS.
 
My partner had an aluminium, but as soon as she saw my SS had to have one. We both agree SS looks much nicer and it feels more substantial. The aluminium Watch feels like a toy in comparison. The price difference is rediculous. She bought a cheap SS digital watch for casual use - 10 euros, 10 euros for a whole SS watch, brings a certain realization to the over charging of Apple (220 euros extra for SS (and better screen)). Will be getting a S3 LTE when they launch here, but I am not sure if I will be willing to pay the extra to go SS.
I don't think it is valid to state that just because a product is made of aluminum (in some parts) that it is equitable to the feeling of (what amounts to) a cheap toy, compared to the ss model.

What you and your girlfriend have bought into is some of the marketing hype of the higher priced model. Numerous products have been designed by Apple and other companies from lightweight materials, that have changed our lives (in various ways). To suggest that one should turn one's nose at a product model just because it doesn't weigh as much as another model is laughable, in an illogical way.
 
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I don't think it is valid to state that just because a product is made of aluminum (in some parts) that it is equitable to the feeling of (what amounts to) a cheap toy, compared to the ss model.

What you and your girlfriend have bought into is some of the marketing hype of the higher priced model. Numerous products have been designed by Apple and other companies from lightweight materials, that have changed our lives (in various ways). To suggest that one should turn one's nose at a product model just because it doesn't weigh as much as another model is laughable, in an illogical way.

It is a statement of opinion and I am entitled to my opionion. I am also entitled to not care what you think as you don’t care what I think.
 
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It is a statement of opinion and I am entitled to my opionion. I am also entitled to not care what you think as you don’t care what I think.
If you had said, that you and your girlfriend preferred the aesthetic look of the watch, as well as the potentially increased durability, that would have made sense. Instead, you have made your same type post numerous times on the forum, as if to be smug and demean others who didn't get the SS, all because it doesn't feel like a cheap toy, due to it being heavier on your wrist.

Yes, you are welcomed to your opinion as are others here. That doesn't mean that when you share an opinion, that I won't point out the fallacy of it (if there is one).
 
If you had said, that you and your girlfriend preferred the aesthetic look of the watch, as well as the potentially increased durability, that would have made sense. Instead, you have made your same type post numerous times on the forum, as if to be smug and demean others who didn't get the SS, all because it doesn't feel like a cheap toy, due to it being heavier on your wrist.

Yes, you are welcomed to your opinion as are others here. That doesn't mean that when you share an opinion, that I won't point out the fallacy of it (if there is one).
You really are a delicate little flower aren’t you. Maybe you should stay off forums if so easily upset. Your comments really make no sense at all. I may have posted once or twice that I preferred the feel of the SS and yes to me the aluminum watch does feel like a cheap toy. But if you could have been big and strong and held your emotions together to read the rest of my post, I did query the value or lack of, in the upgrade to SS. That does somewhat shoot down your statement that “as if to be smug and demean others who didn't get the SS, all because it doesn't feel like a cheap toy, due to it being heavier on your wrist.”
Now go back to mommy and get her to kiss it better.
 
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For those considering getting the SS model because of the Sapphire Glass, you should watch this video.


I would not let this video stray others for purchasing the stainless model Apple Watch. I have watched this video before and It was posted by other members. This video isn't indicative Of Real world experience. I Understand they are testing the durability of the Sapphire, but I can tell you firsthand experience with somebody as myself who has multiple stainless Apple Watches, none of them have a single scratch and they have been subjected to all types of environments.

By far the Sapphire display is easily worth the price of admission with the stainless model in protection and scratch resistance.
 
I would not let this video stray others for purchasing the stainless model Apple Watch. I have watched this video before and It was posted by other members. This video isn't indicative Of Real world experience. I Understand they are testing the durability of the Sapphire, but I can tell you firsthand experience with somebody as myself who has multiple stainless Apple Watches, none of them have a single scratch and they have been subjected to all types of environments.

By far the Sapphire display is easily worth the price of admission with the stainless model in protection and scratch resistance.
I agree. I don't think that one should go by one video. The point was to show that the SS model glass is not immune and just because one person has never had a problem doesn't mean someone else won't have a problem (when he or she didn't think such would happen). Several on the board make it sound like if you get the glass you don't have to really worry.

In all things, buyer beware and be informed.
 
I agree. I don't think that one should go by one video. The point was to show that the SS model glass is not immune and just because one person has never had a problem doesn't mean someone else won't have a problem (when he or she didn't think such would happen). Several on the board make it sound like if you glass you don't have to really worry.

In all things, buyer beware and be informed.

I will say this, in my time spent on the Apple Watch forum, I maybe have read six or less posts of other members actually scratching the sapphire display, and that was conditions where it was extreme. Again, it's very difficult to do. I fully understand the video, but it doesn't correlate to someone taking a razor blade to their sapphire display to rays something that isn't practical in everyday use.

Just to reiterate my own experience, I have multiple stainless Apple Watches and all of them Have perfect dislays. If you want the best protection, The sapphire provides that experience.
 
I’m on my third SS Apple Watch as well. One is a series 0 which I wore daily for 2.5yrs. No scratched screen on any of them. Totally worth the extra cost to me. I also appreciate the SS for its aesthetics . I am delighted each time I look at it.
 
It is a statement of opinion and I am entitled to my opionion. I am also entitled to not care what you think as you don’t care what I think.

He’s right though I think. Suggesting because a watch is more lightweight than another makes it feel like a cheap toy really does ignore the fact this is irrelevant elsewhere.

Titanium watches are a third of the weight of stainless steel versions yet are often more expensive. It’s fair enough if people prefer a heavier watch, but weight has absolutely no bearing on how premium a watch is. Ask Richard Mille and their 300g £300k collection.
 
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Thinking about this without much coffee this morning, does it seem a little odd or ironic that Apple would put the more scratch-resistant display in the most highly-polished case (which will shows even the slightest scratches)? :) A brushed or glass beaded finish would have been very attractive (IMO) and show much less wear.

But logic has its limits. :D
 
Thinking about this without much coffee this morning, does it seem a little odd or ironic that Apple would put the more scratch-resistant display in the most highly-polished case (which will shows even the slightest scratches)? :) A brushed or glass beaded finish would have been very attractive (IMO) and show much less wear.

But logic has its limits. :D
I don't think oxymorons apply here. After all, we are talking about Apple. o_O
 
Thinking about this without much coffee this morning, does it seem a little odd or ironic that Apple would put the more scratch-resistant display in the most highly-polished case (which will shows even the slightest scratches)? :) A brushed or glass beaded finish would have been very attractive (IMO) and show much less wear.

But logic has its limits. :D
Though the SS watch does accumulate micro scratches it can be polished to retain its shine. My 2.5 yr old S1 SS was perfect when I sold it.
 
Effective on SB SS?

Do NOT use a Cape Cod cloth on the stainless steel black. It has a higher risk of actually damaging or removing the diamond like carbon coating, which can also discolor the space black. I would not recommend that at all. Not to mention, it likely will NOT remove the scratches on top of that.
 
Do NOT use a Cape Cod cloth on the stainless steel black. It has a higher risk of actually damaging or removing the diamond like carbon coating, which can also discolor the space black. I would not recommend that at all. Not to mention, it likely will NOT remove the scratches on top of that.

Thank you. That’s what I suspected but thought I’d ask. I’m kind of hard on things so might be better off with the shiny version but the SB is so pretty
 
Thank you. That’s what I suspected but thought I’d ask. I’m kind of hard on things so might be better off with the shiny version but the SB is so pretty
The SBSS coating is more scratch resistant than the SS. I have the SBSS and SS. The SBSS hasn’t scratched at all. If it has micro scratches I can’t see them.
 
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The SBSS coating is more scratch resistant than the SS. I have the SBSS and SS. The SBSS hasn’t scratched at all. If it has micro scratches I can’t see them.

It's much more scratch resistant for sure. However, any DLC coating watch will scratch with enough wear. DLC is great and I've owned about 5 watches with DLC coating. But they can develop hairline scratches. Much better than your typical PVD coated watch, though.
 
Is the space black Milanese loop worth the premium price of $800 over a space grey sport AW3??
 
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