Star Wars the Upcoming Episode 9: Redemption for Disney?

[nicho]

Well if you must cite the worst most ridiculous most boring most idiotic Star Wars movies ever made by far, fine. I haven’t watched the travesty in decades because they should be ignored, forgotten and regarded as a colossal mistake in an otherwise good story told by the original trilogy, but nevertheless insofar as Skywalker senior was concerned, the prequels portray his mother, who has no force powers, apparently, claiming that his father is unknown and she just woke up one day and lo and behold she’s pregnant! So out pops Anakin Skywalker, just like that. And even though it makes no sense, couldn't be more stupid, apparently some are fully on board with this nonsense because George Lucas, long detached from those early days of making original trilogy and a far different man now than he was back then, wrote this slop.

in any event, since Anakin Skywalker’s parentage consists of one normal regular person and a no-show, that doesn’t qualify him for TLJ‘s anybody from ordinary parents could have force powers pretext unless Anakin Skywalker provides undeniable proof that his father, or other mysterious hereto unidentified supernatural entity causing his mother to become pregnant with him, was also a normal regular person.

Your obvious disdain for the prequels seems to put TLJ into 6th place out of 9, which means RJ didn't do actually do all that bad.

 

[decafjava]

An excellent and thoughtful critique of "Rise of Skywalker" and the lost opportunties of the precedent films.

Professional Editor breaks down RoS

I had forgotten how important the dual roles of Central Antagonist (ie. Palpatine until RoTJ and then Snoke) and Sub-Antagonist (ie. Darth Maul, Anakin/Darth Vader then Kylo Ren) were to the SW (and other) series. How it messed this up, looks at other aspects of character develpment and the handling of conflict.

 

[Huntn]

An excellent and thoughtful critique of "Rise of Skywalker" and the lost opportunties of the precedent films.

Professional Editor breaks down RoS

I had forgotten how important the dual roles of Central Antagonist (ie. Palpatine until RoTJ and then Snoke) and Sub-Antagonist (ie. Darth Maul, Anakin/Darth Vader then Kylo Ren) were to the SW (and other) series. How it messed this up, looks at other aspects of character develpment and the handling of conflict.

I watched the first segment about central antagonists, and the author destroys E9. Of course the entire trilogy made me want to barf, with the caveat I’ve not seen E9 just read about it, so at least it is consistent. 😝

 

[Huntn]

The answer to the thread is... no. Just got around to watching this anticipated disappointment and it did not let me down. 😈
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• Palpatating, oh joy, undo everything.
• Where’d all those Star Destroyers come from?
• Space chase, light jumping, yawn.
• Reused banter.
• Ren to Ray: I want you to be my dark side friend!
• Calrissen, good to see.
• Desert chase, yawn.
• Rey to Cave Snake, I’ll heal you! (light bulb!)
• Rey, one bad ass Force Girl, stops a ship lifting off, yes she destroys it... but with practise....
• Chuy’s alive! And if Rey is so in tune with the Force, why does it take her so long to figure that out?
• If Rey can stop a ship from taking off with the force, why does she need a skimmer to ride the angry sea to get to the crashed Death Star? Why not float herself over?
• For 3 movies Ren has been bad, sees Dad in an interactive memory and has a change of heart? What the fork?
• Who needs a Death Star?
• The ending is so much like Episode’s 6 ending. Is someone manipulating me?
• Why can’t we have some good Ren Ben? You just had to kill him off.

JJ you suck, you’ve had 4 years to jerk us around, raking up the dollars, while plunging a dagger into this franchise. Hopefully next time, you’ll hire some real writers who can actually think of something new and original for the Star Wars universe, something that is a credit to the legacy and not just be Mr. Money Grubber.

 

[Huntn]

Brought over from Strange New Worlds thread:

...problem is with Star Wars (in particular) is that you have a classic movie that was loved, at the time, by kids and which owes 90% of its financial success to toy sales and the other 10% to being an escapist, swashbuckling and fairly undemanding fun-for-the-family romp at a time when cinema was disappearing up it's own navel. The movies had to satisfy three audiences:

1. Modern kids (because the studios want those sweet, sweet toy sales)
2. The 50-somethings who watched as kids, but have spent the intervening decades reading increasingly sophisticated "expanded universe" novels and really want something a bit deeper.
3. The inner 14-year-olds within those same 50-somethings who remember the original through misty rose-tinted viewscreens and basically want to be able to watch the original for the first time - again.

That's a recipe for failure. That's a recipe for pod races interspersed by trade talks and some obscure tragic historical allegory involving a comedy amphibian.

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While I don’t disagree with you, in my opinion, the real problem is that instead of creating a “new” chapter for Star Wars, they decided their best bet was to recycle an already used story because it was a success the first time around.

This happens a lot in Hollywood, recycle instead of innovate. Now the first 3 episodes (chaps 1-3) suffered from execution. Chaps 7-9, crass repetition, so much of it, Death Planet>Death Star. I was so happy when they finally miniaturized it to be a little cannon on a Star Destroyer, progress.

I saw 7-8 in the theater because of grandkids, and delayed 9 until it was on Disney +, but I had read about, had already been dissapointed, so I knew what was coming. See my signature. The build up to the big fight at the end of 9 was so much like 6, it was just pathetically sad.

 

[decafjava]

Apologies for reviving this thread but I get to post this picture finally.

JJ Abrams: Lack of plan in Star Wars’ latest trilogy was a “critical” flaw

An upcoming interview with filmmaker JJ Abrams will span the entirety of his career, and that means it includes significant statements about his work on the latest Star Wars trilogy. From the sound of things, 17 months of distance from his last Star Wars film, Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker, have given him either the clarity or the cushion needed to speak frankly on what the film arguably flubbed.

I was quite happy with the Mandalorian but frankly the "Rise of SkyWalker" as well as the toxicity in the fandom killed my love for the franchise.

 

[bobob]

JJ Abrams: Lack of plan in Star Wars’ latest trilogy was a “critical” flaw

No jhit, jherlock!