The final scene, the look on Luke's face when Rey hands him the light saber. That's the same light saber that Anniken built then lost to obiwan then given to Luke and subsequently lost again in ESB. Mind blowing.
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I assumed she was Luke's daughter due to the strength of the force but she could be Solos daughter too. I haven't done enough research as I didn't want to spoil my experience of the film.
Already planning to rewatch The Force Awakens between Christmas Day and New Year's Eve. My gf isn't a huge Star Wars fan but she enjoyed it so much she is willing to rewatch it again with me. There is just so much replay value with Star Wars for me that MCU films lacks because their stories are not all interesting even with a roster full of interesting superheroes.
My history watching the series...
On VHS (either Feb-March 1997)
The Empire Strikes Back
Return of the Jedi
A New Hope
I started with Empire first. My Dad bought a couple of VHS tapes of TESB and ROTJ. I was never into Star Wars until 1997 when I was 16. I was more into Back To The Future and Indiana Jones. A neighbor even gave me Star Wars cards when I was 9 and I didn’t care for them. I put Empire in the VCR and couldn't understand a damn thing. So I put it off for a couple weeks. It wasn't until Luke visited Dagobah that I became fascinated by Yoda's spirituality with The Force. So again, my love for SW started with Yoda. I saw Jedi right after and then Hope a couple weeks later. Then I would see each of them again once in SE form in the theater.
Theater Experience
A New Hope SE, 1997, 1x
The Empire Strikes Back SE, 1997, 1x
Return Of The Jedi SE, 1997, 1x
The Phantom Menace, 1999, 3x
Attack Of The Clones, 2002, 2x
Revenge Of The Sith, 2005, 3x
The Force Awakens, 2015, 1x
^ Overall at home or in the theater, I probably seen each Star Wars film at least 20x. The OT is probably 40x each. My least replayed is AOTC. At first, I thought it was better than TPM. It isn't. Hard for me to watch it all the way through. At least TPM had Maul and there was maybe 30 minutes of quality stuff. I did like the pod race. I probably only liked 10 minutes of AOTC overall. With ROTS, there was 10 minute of scenes I didn't like.
I want to rewatch TFA again but only in 2D form just so I can analyze a few scenes.
- Rey's flashback sequence
- Daniel Craig's cameo. Hearing his voice getting fooled by Rey's Jedi mind trick.
- Han Solo death scene. I remember Chewbacca shooting Ben but I don't recall how hard he got hit by the crossbow.
- The lightsaber battle. If Ben really was injured badly by Chewie, then he fought nobly along with sanitation man Finn and Rey. It was an EVEN playing field. An injured man vs two inexperienced fighters esp Finn. Try fighting two people with an arrow through your ribs.
- When Ben actually escapes. I don't recall it quite as vividly.
- Simply revisiting the deserts of Jakku, the lush greenery of Takodana (Maz Kanata's castle), Starkiller Base's ice and winter forestry, and the beautiful aerial view on the islands Luke went into hiding. Again, the most naturally beautiful SW entry ever made. Pure escapism at Star Wars' finest.
The question still remains... Is Rey the daughter of the Solos or Luke Skywalker? The sister of Ben or his first cousin?
http://www.bustle.com/articles/1309...star-wars-the-force-awakens-these-plot-points
^ This article indicates they could be siblings. I don't agree only because Han and Leia didn't recognize Rey when they saw her. There is no way her parents can assume Rey is dead in Jakku and not recognize that is their daughter. There is something innate with parents especially Leia. And how come Rey doesn't acknowledge Ben as her brother when he unmasked himself? When she was left in Jakku, she would be old enough to remember what he looks like unless everyone has amnesia about her existence.
Now how come Vader tortured Leia in ANH but didn't recognize that is her daughter which is quite disturbing when you think about it? Because he isn't aware Padmé had twins and Leia was raised in Alderaan. She never utilized the The Force although she did have an innate ability to hear Luke's calling at the end of Empire. Vader would recognize Luke though with "The Force is strong with this one" line. But the first ever face to face between Luke and Vader was in TESB. I just can't buy this idea that Rey wasn't recognized by Han, Leia, and Ben at all or she didn't recognize any of them.
I believe Rey is Luke's daughter but we'll see. Ben did get really emo when he found out about "a girl" and did say to Rey he is willing to train her and help utilize her powers. I hope we see more of Snoke in Ep 8. I want to see him in live form. I believe Kylo Ren will kill Luke Skywalker if they meet in Ep 8 the same way Vader killed his Obi-Wan. Luke (at his age), Finn, Poe, and Chewie are expendable. I don't feel Finn is all that important after Ep 7 unless he comes Rey's love interest or "brotha" she never had. Wouldn't surprise me if one of them gets killed or all of them. This Sequel Trilogy is really all about Ben and Rey.
Hoping for an anybody is fair game to kill except Rey type of suspense (ala The Walking Dead-style). Almost anyone can die except Rey. I think Rey is a wonderful female lead character. She absolutely had it worse in life than Luke or Leia. Braver than her Auntie (or Momma) Leia and Daddy (or Uncle) Luke. After Episode 9, Rey will go down as the greatest female SW character of all-time. In the Final Fantasy series , I love Tifa, Lulu, and Yuna. Rey is equal to Tifa's as all-around skills and Yuna's courage.
http://www.theverge.com/2015/12/19/10626896/star-wars-the-force-awakens-rey-mary-sue-feminist
"Rey is a survivor who seems to be consummately skilled at everything she tries. She's a crack pilot. She's a skilled mechanic. She's so innately talented in her use of the Force that she figures out Jedi mind tricks on her own, out of nowhere. She keeps falling into standard-issue damsel-in-distress situations, then capably rescuing herself. Even Han Solo is vocally and visibly impressed with her awesomeness. Her only weakness is a minor and understandable one: She misses the parents who seemingly abandoned her."
"Princess Leia was a feminist icon back in 1977. She was one of the original models for modern women heroines: like Rey, Leia is confident, competent, unapologetic, and an active participant in her own rescues. (Even when rocking a skimpy metal slave-girl getup.) But while Leia was quickly reduced to a secondary character after A New Hope, Rey is all Leia's potential fulfilled — jumping right into the pilot's seat instead of moving to the rear of the starship while the boys fly."
My history watching the series...
On VHS (either Feb-March 1997)
The Empire Strikes Back
Return of the Jedi
A New Hope
I started with Empire first. My Dad bought a couple of VHS tapes of TESB and ROTJ. I was never into Star Wars until 1997 when I was 16. I was more into Back To The Future and Indiana Jones. A neighbor even gave me Star Wars cards when I was 9 and I didn’t care for them. I put Empire in the VCR and couldn't understand a damn thing. So I put it off for a couple weeks. It wasn't until Luke visited Dagobah that I became fascinated by Yoda's spirituality with The Force. So again, my love for SW started with Yoda. I saw Jedi right after and then Hope a couple weeks later. Then I would see each of them again once in SE form in the theater.
Theater Experience
A New Hope SE, 1997, 1x
The Empire Strikes Back SE, 1997, 1x
Return Of The Jedi SE, 1997, 1x
The Phantom Menace, 1999, 3x
Attack Of The Clones, 2002, 2x
Revenge Of The Sith, 2005, 3x
The Force Awakens, 2015, 1x
^ Overall at home or in the theater, I probably seen each Star Wars film at least 20x. The OT is probably 40x each. My least replayed is AOTC. At first, I thought it was better than TPM. It isn't. Hard for me to watch it all the way through. At least TPM had Maul and there was maybe 30 minutes of quality stuff. I did like the pod race. I probably only liked 10 minutes of AOTC overall. With ROTS, there was 10 minute of scenes I didn't like.
I want to rewatch TFA again but only in 2D form just so I can analyze a few scenes.
- Rey's flashback sequence
- Daniel Craig's cameo. Hearing his voice getting fooled by Rey's Jedi mind trick.
- Han Solo death scene. I remember Chewbacca shooting Ben but I don't recall how hard he got hit by the crossbow.
- The lightsaber battle. If Ben really was injured badly by Chewie, then he fought nobly along with sanitation man Finn and Rey. It was an EVEN playing field. An injured man vs two inexperienced fighters esp Finn. Try fighting two people with an arrow through your ribs.
- When Ben actually escapes. I don't recall it quite as vividly.
- Simply revisiting the deserts of Jakku, the lush greenery of Takodana (Maz Kanata's castle), Starkiller Base's ice and winter forestry, and the beautiful aerial view on the islands Luke went into hiding. Again, the most naturally beautiful SW entry ever made. Pure escapism at Star Wars' finest.
The question still remains... Is Rey the daughter of the Solos or Luke Skywalker? The sister of Ben or his first cousin?
http://www.bustle.com/articles/1309...star-wars-the-force-awakens-these-plot-points
^ This article indicates they could be siblings. I don't agree only because Han and Leia didn't recognize Rey when they saw her. There is no way her parents can assume Rey is dead in Jakku and not recognize that is their daughter. There is something innate with parents especially Leia. And how come Rey doesn't acknowledge Ben as her brother when he unmasked himself? When she was left in Jakku, she would be old enough to remember what he looks like unless everyone has amnesia about her existence.
Now how come Vader tortured Leia in ANH but didn't recognize that is her daughter which is quite disturbing when you think about it? Because he isn't aware Padmé had twins and Leia was raised in Alderaan. She never utilized the The Force although she did have an innate ability to hear Luke's calling at the end of Empire. Vader would recognize Luke though with "The Force is strong with this one" line. But the first ever face to face between Luke and Vader was in TESB. I just can't buy this idea that Rey wasn't recognized by Han, Leia, and Ben at all or she didn't recognize any of them.
I believe Rey is Luke's daughter but we'll see. Ben did get really emo when he found out about "a girl" and did say to Rey he is willing to train her and help utilize her powers. I hope we see more of Snoke in Ep 8. I want to see him in live form. I believe Kylo Ren will kill Luke Skywalker if they meet in Ep 8 the same way Vader killed his Obi-Wan. Luke (at his age), Finn, Poe, and Chewie are expendable. I don't feel Finn is all that important after Ep 7 unless he comes Rey's love interest or "brotha" she never had. Wouldn't surprise me if one of them gets killed or all of them. This Sequel Trilogy is really all about Ben and Rey.
Hoping for an anybody is fair game to kill except Rey type of suspense (ala The Walking Dead-style). Almost anyone can die except Rey. I think Rey is a wonderful female lead character. She absolutely had it worse in life than Luke or Leia. Braver than her Auntie (or Momma) Leia and Daddy (or Uncle) Luke. After Episode 9, Rey will go down as the greatest female SW character of all-time. In the Final Fantasy series , I love Tifa, Lulu, and Yuna. Rey is equal to Tifa's as all-around skills and Yuna's courage.
http://www.theverge.com/2015/12/19/10626896/star-wars-the-force-awakens-rey-mary-sue-feminist
"Rey is a survivor who seems to be consummately skilled at everything she tries. She's a crack pilot. She's a skilled mechanic. She's so innately talented in her use of the Force that she figures out Jedi mind tricks on her own, out of nowhere. She keeps falling into standard-issue damsel-in-distress situations, then capably rescuing herself. Even Han Solo is vocally and visibly impressed with her awesomeness. Her only weakness is a minor and understandable one: She misses the parents who seemingly abandoned her."
"Princess Leia was a feminist icon back in 1977. She was one of the original models for modern women heroines: like Rey, Leia is confident, competent, unapologetic, and an active participant in her own rescues. (Even when rocking a skimpy metal slave-girl getup.) But while Leia was quickly reduced to a secondary character after A New Hope, Rey is all Leia's potential fulfilled — jumping right into the pilot's seat instead of moving to the rear of the starship while the boys fly."
How many times are you all intending to see TFA?
I was going to see it on back to back days and was able to abstain. I'm thinking this could get expensive...
I was going to see it on back to back days and was able to abstain. I'm thinking this could get expensive...
I was especially disappointed in the lack of context within the Star Wars storyline in The Force Awakens. This comment from another discussion highlights some of the problems:
"First and foremost, the movie fails to establish the stakes in the universe that it presents. It seems to think that it's sufficient to simply regurgitate elements of the originals and hope to skate by on the warm light of homage and nostalgia, without bothering to explain why any of it should matter.
What happened during these last 30 years? Who are these First Order people? Are they a significant threat? The Republic - is it fragile? Is it strong? Should I root for it? How in the world does the "Resistance" figure into any of this?
Who in the world are these guys?
If anything, this throws into relief the remarkable economy of storytelling that powered A New Hope. The opening scene of a massive Star Destroyer hunting down a fleeing vessel tells you - without using a single word - everything you need to know about the overpowering menace of the Empire and the scrappy, underdog Rebellion.
In TFA, you've got a Star Destroyer buried in the sand ...for some reason. Okay, looks like the Empire got its teeth kicked in. Oh wait, the First Order also has plenty of Star Destroyers to spare. So are they strong? Weak? Relative to what?"
What happened during these last 30 years? Who are these First Order people? Are they a significant threat? The Republic - is it fragile? Is it strong? Should I root for it? How in the world does the "Resistance" figure into any of this?
Who in the world are these guys?
If anything, this throws into relief the remarkable economy of storytelling that powered A New Hope. The opening scene of a massive Star Destroyer hunting down a fleeing vessel tells you - without using a single word - everything you need to know about the overpowering menace of the Empire and the scrappy, underdog Rebellion.
In TFA, you've got a Star Destroyer buried in the sand ...for some reason. Okay, looks like the Empire got its teeth kicked in. Oh wait, the First Order also has plenty of Star Destroyers to spare. So are they strong? Weak? Relative to what?"
I think it's safe to say The First Order is a lot stronger than the republic. They built a weapon capable of destroying planets and consuming stars. The republic are more akin to the rebel alliance from the OT IMO.
3 or 4 at the cinema. Many more on DVD.
I think it's unlikely Rey is Ben's sister. Yes the Solo's did have twins in the books (and a son called Anakin), but that time line has been deleted.
If Leia had a second child, I'm sure she might remember. Through the force, she would certainly be able to recognise her.
More likely is she is Luke's daughter. Maybe that's partly why he went into hiding? The Jedi's were not supposed to have children (although again in the books that changes).
The other possibility is the Force brought her into being to create balance like Anakin, but who knows.
She could even be Snoke's kid, but I think that's unlikely.
Rey Skywalker gets my vote.
What is "political correctness"? Is it having more than just white men in hero roles, to you? That seems a little... I don't know how to phrase it.
I wasn't planning on watching it again until the Bluray release but I might just go back. I've been thinking about the film for 2 days now and it feels like I just have to go back!
Another great part was when Fin turned on the space chess game. It was so nice to see new footage of that. 
I went to see it again this afternoon
Much better in 2D and the bits that bothered me most on the first viewing really didn't the second time around.
There's no doubt it feels like one of the original trilogy films and is so much better than any of the prequels.
I thing that bothered me most after watching again was the similarity in storyline to ANH but I find it hard to level this as a criticism given how much I love that film!
Will read the book next and look forward to seeing again on small screen.
Well done JJ
Much better in 2D and the bits that bothered me most on the first viewing really didn't the second time around.
There's no doubt it feels like one of the original trilogy films and is so much better than any of the prequels.
I thing that bothered me most after watching again was the similarity in storyline to ANH but I find it hard to level this as a criticism given how much I love that film!
Will read the book next and look forward to seeing again on small screen.
Well done JJ
SO GOOD!
Though some ******** spoiled the death of Han Solo for me about a day or so before it came out. I just kinda hoped it wasn't true given that the film wasn't even out at the time.
It was visually quite stunning, especially the wreckage scenes on Jakku. I'm hoping there is some side material that elaborates on the whole Luke thing though. If I want to be critical, parts of his dissapearance made no sense. Overall it was a hugely enjoyable movie though.
Though some ******** spoiled the death of Han Solo for me about a day or so before it came out. I just kinda hoped it wasn't true given that the film wasn't even out at the time.
It was visually quite stunning, especially the wreckage scenes on Jakku. I'm hoping there is some side material that elaborates on the whole Luke thing though. If I want to be critical, parts of his dissapearance made no sense. Overall it was a hugely enjoyable movie though.
Yeah I saw the same thing on my Facebook from somebody I went to school with. A bloody JPEG of Han Solo with a lightsaber through him and a caption, 'Han Solo dies, Merry Xmas'... Luckily I had already seen the film but it got quite a few people angry. I unfriended and blocked him so it had a pretty easy solution. I haven't seen him for nearly 20 years so not seeing him ever again is not going to worry me lol. I just don't understand why people think doing that is funny?
People who post spoilers are the sort you'd find in the Mos Eisley cantina.
Scum!
Can't wait.
Scum!
I guess we will find out next year.
Can't wait.
Fortunately it won't be as long like the time after Empire strikes back came out.
Probably the most important criticism of this reboot or remake or sequel or whatever it is.
It's pretty obvious that TFA is a remake of SWNH. Any attempt to make sense of it otherwise is futile.
To be honest, I had always wondered what SWNH might look like with a full complement of modern sfx and cgi, and now we know.
But the film does fall apart logically if one tries to couch TFA within the existing Star Wars universe. After all, in the finale of ROTJ:
1. the emporer is dead
2. vader is dead
3. the death star has been blown to smithereens
Therefore, the entire command structure is completely gone, as is their base of operations and I would assume most of their fleet.
But no matter, there is a NEW imperial leader, a new pair of highly placed subordinates, multiple armada of star destroyers, tens or hundreds of thousands, or millions of support crew (with the most numerous: stormtroopers, all kidnapped, purchased or cajoled from various ghettoes throughout the galaxy).
On top of that, there is at least one new death star (how many more are there?)--fully operational in less than 30 years. And apparently, the rebels didn't catch wind of the emerging plot by the dark side (even with spies and moles throughout the galaxy already in place) of it, nor did they attempt to destroy the (new) death star prior.
And why didn't the rebels seize power and institute the light side in law and society throughout?)
The film is an entire shambles as a sequel. It is a whole heck of a lot of fun as a remake thinly veiled as a sequel.
edit: also, why do the stormtroopers even bother to suit up? Their armor is totally ineffective in protecting them from laser blasts anyway, the suit is very bulky, probably hinders vision, and prevents adequate ventilation.
Not to mention, it makes it impossible to identify rebel moles who can simply steal a suit then romp around the death star totally undetected.
The original SW trilogy worked because it taps deeply into our collective consciousness of astrotheological beliefs; the new SW works almost solely on the basis of sentimentality. How will this disney cooptation be viewed in a few years time? Hard to say given the thrall we are all in right now.
Bobob is simply pointing out that the first order's rise to, and level of power and might and organization (ie evil empire, ie third reich) are simply baffling and implausible given the ridiculously short timeline during which they rose to "power."
Where was the first order in ep 4-6? Were they a rival dark side faction? If so, is there any hint of competition for dark side domination in any of the novels? Or, are they the remnants of the empire? If so, how did they rise to power so quickly, given the total defeat and decimation of the empire? Why didn't the rebels sniff them out sooner? Why did Luke, the rebel savior, bail if there was even the slightest hint of the emergence of a new dark side superpower? What about the rebel moles and intelligence already in place? Wouldn't they have discovered the first order plot very early on? If so, why didn't they attempt to destroy the new death star as it was being built, instead of waiting until it was "fully operational" and had already destroyed several planets?
It seems like the rebel alliance took a major siesta for 3 decades, and then conveniently enough, reconvene en masse to defeat the incredibly powerful first order in one fell swoop?
The story telling is a complete fail from the perspective of a continuing storyline; it is wholly entertaining as a remake.
Yeah, espn sports talk radio had been spoiling the film for DAYS in advance of the premiere. It was just unbelievable. I had been wanting to wait it out a few days, but decided to see it on friday just so I wouldn't have to deal with the sting of the additional inevitable spoilers.
It was just incredibly lame for sports talk radio to spoil the film.
I wasn't able to hold out on a second viewing for very long: just two day, lol.
My only excuse was that I would be seeing TFA in 2D. And I'm glad I did. The 2D version is gorgeous. Colors are far richer, contrast is far punchier, and the image is simply much brighter and more realistic than in 3D. The 3D image is too dark and washed out, and motion blur is far more prominent. Film quality of 3D is not unacceptable, but you don't know what you're missing until you see this in 2D.
Upon second viewing of the film, I quickly came to realize that Solo is the heart of TFA. I have to admit that as the ESPN spoilers stated, Ford/Solo is the true star and steals the show. No, I don't enjoy watching an elderly solo hobbling around and trying to keep up with the gen z kids, and no, seeing a man of his age running in a leather jacket, doesn't quite make sense in any universe, the star wars universe or otherwise.
And I can't quite place WHY Solo makes the film, but he does. Is it due to sentimentality on my part, or is it due to the quality of Ford's performance? I can't quite tell. Solo is still scrappy and salty as hell, despite his age, still barking orders, and sonning people left and right, and he makes us enjoy the ---- out of it. But underlying it all is true love and concern for the scrappy young bloods running around with half a clue but with big hearts.
The second star of TFA is the CGI/SFX team. The action sequences seem relatively few and far between it seems. I'd have liked to have seen more, especially in comparison with EP3's completely over the top and comically unrealistic battle sequences.
Aside from that, while Fin and Rey are earnest and hardworking, they're working with a very predictable, 2D script, and just don't have the charisma to impose their stamp of personality on the SW universe. Fin and Rey are just "good enough," no more, no less. Daisy is absolutely gorgeous and is very easy on the eyes, but doesn't quite have the star power or charm of any of the original cast: Leia, Luke, Solo, Chewie.
Nonetheless, I'm glad I saw it. After the first viewing, I thought I might see this film in the double digits. Now, I think I'll see this film as many times as I saw avatar in the theater, which was 3 or 4X.
A very solid outing. Entertaining, and emotionally stirring, but rarely intellectually stimulating or challenging aside from nerdboy geeking out on minutiae.
My only excuse was that I would be seeing TFA in 2D. And I'm glad I did. The 2D version is gorgeous. Colors are far richer, contrast is far punchier, and the image is simply much brighter and more realistic than in 3D. The 3D image is too dark and washed out, and motion blur is far more prominent. Film quality of 3D is not unacceptable, but you don't know what you're missing until you see this in 2D.
Upon second viewing of the film, I quickly came to realize that Solo is the heart of TFA. I have to admit that as the ESPN spoilers stated, Ford/Solo is the true star and steals the show. No, I don't enjoy watching an elderly solo hobbling around and trying to keep up with the gen z kids, and no, seeing a man of his age running in a leather jacket, doesn't quite make sense in any universe, the star wars universe or otherwise.
And I can't quite place WHY Solo makes the film, but he does. Is it due to sentimentality on my part, or is it due to the quality of Ford's performance? I can't quite tell. Solo is still scrappy and salty as hell, despite his age, still barking orders, and sonning people left and right, and he makes us enjoy the ---- out of it. But underlying it all is true love and concern for the scrappy young bloods running around with half a clue but with big hearts.
The second star of TFA is the CGI/SFX team. The action sequences seem relatively few and far between it seems. I'd have liked to have seen more, especially in comparison with EP3's completely over the top and comically unrealistic battle sequences.
Aside from that, while Fin and Rey are earnest and hardworking, they're working with a very predictable, 2D script, and just don't have the charisma to impose their stamp of personality on the SW universe. Fin and Rey are just "good enough," no more, no less. Daisy is absolutely gorgeous and is very easy on the eyes, but doesn't quite have the star power or charm of any of the original cast: Leia, Luke, Solo, Chewie.
Nonetheless, I'm glad I saw it. After the first viewing, I thought I might see this film in the double digits. Now, I think I'll see this film as many times as I saw avatar in the theater, which was 3 or 4X.
A very solid outing. Entertaining, and emotionally stirring, but rarely intellectually stimulating or challenging aside from nerdboy geeking out on minutiae.
Totally agree on 2D over 3D. I saw it opening night in 2D and will probably choose that format when I see it again.
I think Harrison Ford plays Solo very well. It's one of those things that makes me nervous about the Solo film. A young actor will have very big shoes to fill.
As for the new actors, I think Rey is the best of the bunch. But for me she can never replace Leia. She was and always will be my first love (and I wasn't that old when SW came out!).
I think Harrison Ford plays Solo very well. It's one of those things that makes me nervous about the Solo film. A young actor will have very big shoes to fill.
As for the new actors, I think Rey is the best of the bunch. But for me she can never replace Leia. She was and always will be my first love (and I wasn't that old when SW came out!).
Pleased I'm not the only one here who disliked it. Abrams doesn't have any subtlety, any action scenes were turned up to 11, and as a result of it being so OTT there was just absolutely no tension to the film. The music was really poor (probably the biggest disappointment to me) and the dialogue/disjointed plot wasn't great either. Just nothing memorable about it and I don't think it'll hold up to repeat viewings like the original trilogy.
Plus I think Abrams' directing - namely, loads of gratuitous close up shots - meant that this didn't really 'look' like a Star Wars film. It just didn't feel like one IMO. I felt really disappointed.
My housemate who enjoyed it reminded me that I've watched a lot of Star Wars, so it wasn't memorable because I hadn't seen it on a hundered occasions. I don't think this'll be a grower, though. I'll keep going to see it regardless, and time will tell. Hopefully I'll learn to love it.
Plus I think Abrams' directing - namely, loads of gratuitous close up shots - meant that this didn't really 'look' like a Star Wars film. It just didn't feel like one IMO. I felt really disappointed.
My housemate who enjoyed it reminded me that I've watched a lot of Star Wars, so it wasn't memorable because I hadn't seen it on a hundered occasions. I don't think this'll be a grower, though. I'll keep going to see it regardless, and time will tell. Hopefully I'll learn to love it.
Without going into a lot of detail, TFA blatantly pushes particular political propaganda, such as:
1. feminism (rey in particular, along with the fembot stormtrooper, as well as leia)
2. multi-culturalism (a brunette rey, black fin, and a distinctly arab and/or mediterranean vader and poe, along with the bizarre alien creatures throughout)
3. pro UN propaganda (ie republic/rebel alliance)
4. anti-nationalist agenda (anti national socialism, aka germany third reich)
TFA does have a thematic continuity with the original trilogy in it's odes and bows to astro-theology (ie rey/ray wears white, kylo wears black), but is now more of a backdrop rather than thematic foundation and moral arc of the star wars universe.
Also, and this is just me personally, but it finally took me a while to figure out that the constant references to slavery, bartering, and the almost constant backdrop of the desert is a not so subtle portrayal of the incredibly environmentally harsh and largely amoral culture of the Arab world. So,
5. a rather subtle anti-Arab thematic is part of the backdrop as well.
1. feminism (rey in particular, along with the fembot stormtrooper, as well as leia)
2. multi-culturalism (a brunette rey, black fin, and a distinctly arab and/or mediterranean vader and poe, along with the bizarre alien creatures throughout)
3. pro UN propaganda (ie republic/rebel alliance)
4. anti-nationalist agenda (anti national socialism, aka germany third reich)
TFA does have a thematic continuity with the original trilogy in it's odes and bows to astro-theology (ie rey/ray wears white, kylo wears black), but is now more of a backdrop rather than thematic foundation and moral arc of the star wars universe.
Also, and this is just me personally, but it finally took me a while to figure out that the constant references to slavery, bartering, and the almost constant backdrop of the desert is a not so subtle portrayal of the incredibly environmentally harsh and largely amoral culture of the Arab world. So,
5. a rather subtle anti-Arab thematic is part of the backdrop as well.
In the expanded universe, yes (Jacen and Jaina Solo), however the expanded universe has been officially disbanded and deleted by Disney. Well, apart from Kylo Ren being Ben Solo, Han and Leia's son (Jacen Solo in the EU previously)
Which to me was very pointless and just stank of "I'm a famous person who has 'Appearing in Star Wars' on my Bucket List, please give me a role JJ"