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Steve Jobs Again Speaks Out on iPhone 4 Antenna Issue via Email

Whoya5555 said:
OMG - Someone at Apple has GOT to get a hold of Jobs and keep him away from answering e-mails or phone calls. He is singlehandedly going to destroy most of the hard work on market share Apple has gathered in the last couple of years. He has displayed an arrogant and pompous disregard for what his customer base thinks with these repeated comments about user error, and instructing Apple not to give out bumpers, etc.
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Steve Jobs has been like that since Apple began. You either accept his distortion field or you don't. It doesn't make a difference at this point in Apple's existence.

Jobs will never change and Apple will live or die on the strength of it's marketing and product line just as it has for the past ten years. Steve could set fire to a kitten and say it was holding back progress and people would nod - "well, yes, I think Steve has a point there."
 
People that are upsetting me

Type 1: People claiming the iPhone4 has none of these issues.

- Either you live next door to a cell tower or you probably dont have one at all

Type 2: People insisting that I return the phone.

-If it comes down to it, I will return this thing..but I DONT WANT TO because its fruckin SWEET. With the obvious exception of the signal, its probably the nicest thing ive ever owned.

Im holding out about 20 more days...for a fix that will probably never come.
 
Tonewheel said:
You're credibility just sailed out the window. Age revealed....
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Speaking of age, you know... I learned in grade school that "you're" means "you are". I believe the possessive pronoun you're looking for is "your".

As for SNL or South Park revealing anyone's age... yeah, sure. The SNL audience is always full of teenagers. Oh wait, that's right. It's a bunch of 30- and 40-somethings watching the bunch of 30- and 40-somethings on stage.
 
firewood said:
What are you waiting for? Apple to change the laws of physics? A free magic unicorn?
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For Apple to make it right 'stay tuned'? You remember that, right? Considering it costs me money to return it waiting to see if Apple really does have a shred of ethics seems to be the prudent way go, right?

Again, tell  to cut your shill pay, you just aren't that good at it.
 
Sorry for those who are actually having aproblem with this "issue." I'm thankful that I personally haven't noticed any different in cell signal strength or an increase in dropped calls. It seems that my reception is pretty much the same as it was with my iPhone 3GS. I hope something is done to help the situation though.
 
chris975d said:
And why are you attempting to use a phone that isn't working for you to handle clients? Is that the best business decision for you? Was the iPhone 4 the only phone available when you went to purchase your phone, and your older one also broken? If I was a traveling salesman, and just bought a nice, shiny Lexus that broke down every 10 miles and made me consistently late to meetings with clients and cost me those sales, AND I knew before purchasing the Lexus that most of that model had the problem, would if be a very smart "business decision" to have purchased that car for business use?
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You are right. Thank you!
 
Anuba said:
Speaking of age, you know... I learned in grade school that "you're" means "you are". I believe the possessive pronoun you're looking for is "your".

As for SNL or South Park revealing anyone's age... yeah, sure. The SNL audience is always full of teenagers. Oh wait, that's right. It's a bunch of 30- and 40-somethings watching the bunch of 30- and 40-somethings on stage.
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LOL Anuba that correction was necessary and PRICELESS. THANK YOU for saying something about this. YOUR the best! :)
 
ipoddin said:
Wrong. I'm left handed. I do not "cup" the phone when talking on it. I use my finger tips to hold it on the sides and top and they don't touch the bands. This is just the normal way I've always held my phones. No dropped calls. It is a non issue.
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+1

I'm right handed, but the way you describe holding your phone is how I've held every mobile phone I've owned.

The bottom line is that there is an "issue" that occurs when holding the phone in a less than orthodox manner, and people are using it as a reason to bitch.

I am actually convinced that MacRumors has completed it's tragic transformation from Apple rumour forum to Apple hater forum, because no matter what good Apple news is posted these days, there are always more people to put a negative slant on things.

People no longer cone here and sign up to read and discuss Apple news, it's become a hater/troll site, which is as tedious as it is tiresome.
 
BobVB said:
what does any of that have to do with the iP4 dropping calls when previous versions didn't?
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Hmm.. My original and 3G dropped plenty of calls when the bars dropped.




You bring evidence to the table that has nothing to do with the problem - when have I complained about data rates, or even signal strength in itself? This is about dropped calls, basic cell phone functionality. Why are you deliberately trying to obfuscate the conversation with irrelevancies?
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This whole issue has been about signal strength! You put your hand over the left corner which kills your signal strength which results in that dropped call! And the same goes when you cover that spot and the signal goes down when you go on Safari, etc. The previous iPhone's as shown in those videos have shown the same behavior as the iPhone 4! Including my old iPhones!
 
From The Makers Of Revolutionary And Magical???!?!?!

Umm Excuse me??

"Its just a phone"... What the hell was stuttering Ive blabbering on about in those promotional videos???

Could it be he was talking out of his arse/nal???

I remember something along the lines of "Its so much more than another product... I cant believe Im video calling anywhere there's wifi.. this is the stuff dreams bla bla"

Are they for real.

"Calm down it doesnt matter if your 499GBP+ phone doesnt work well as a phone if you dont hold it in the right way or buy a case.

Relax. Get our magical iPad 3G. Problems solved."

Somebody at Apple tell Steve he has lost his email privileges for pete's sake !!:eek:
 
IndustrialSpace said:
Steve Jobs and Apple are digging their hole deeper and deeper each day with these poorly thought-out replies to a very serious issue.

Thumbs down for Apple and the iPhone 4.0 :mad:
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Whoya5555 said:
OMG - Someone at Apple has GOT to get a hold of Jobs and keep him away from answering e-mails or phone calls. He is singlehandedly going to destroy most of the hard work on market share Apple has gathered in the last couple of years. He has displayed an arrogant and pompous disregard for what his customer base thinks with these repeated comments about user error, and instructing Apple not to give out bumpers, etc.

As we speak I know several friends who are dumping their iphone4's for the Evo, and I can certainly understand why if Apple's attitude about its customers is anything close to what Jobs has been saying.
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John Dillinger said:
Umm Excuse me??

"Its just a phone"... What the hell was stuttering Ive blabbering on about in those promotional videos???

Could it be he was talking out of his arse/nal???

I remember something along the lines of "Its so much more than another product... I cant believe Im video calling anywhere there's wifi.. this is the stuff dreams bla bla"

Are they for real.

"Calm down it doesnt matter if your 499GBP+ phone doesnt work well as a phone if you dont hold it in the right way or buy a case.

Relax. Get our magical iPad 3G. Problems solved."

Somebody at Apple tell Steve he has lost his email privileges for pete's sake !!:eek:
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rcandre2 said:
"Not worth it. It's just a phone."

Steve is such a thoughtless d-bag. What about those of us who earn a living with our phone. I'll be sure to let my clients know that when our calls get dropped.



Sent from my POS iPhone 4
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And you all seem fairly gullible if you believe Steve actually said that. It is simply amazing how many people on this thread accept everything they read in the Internet as fact. There is almost nothing in the world easier to forge than email headers. Easy to forge in a manner that is 100% undetectable by anyone. Short of an email signed by a verified public-key, the only way to authenticate the source of any email might be to review the server logs and then 99.9% of the people who actually understand email would still say maybe.

Good enough for tech blogs to post and sensationalize != true.
 
ArcaneDevice said:
Steve could set fire to a kitten and say it was holding back progress and people would nod - "well, yes, I think Steve has a point there."
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This is quite possibly the funniest thing said in this thread, and in all honesty, probably quite true. As evidenced by the insane number of people still buying, AND KEEPING (instead of returning) a product that they are complaining about not working. If you buy it and decide to keep it, that means you accept it's shortcomings and work around them. It's like marrying an ugly wife (that you obviously already know is ugly), and complaining for the next 20 years that she hasn't gotten prettier over the years.
 
chris975d said:
Exactly. If everyone bitching and moaning about the phone would just return it, I'm SURE Apple and Jobs would do something to fix any issue there might be, as that would directly impact the company's profits. But the funny thing is that most of the people doing the most complaining are STILL USING/WANTING TO KEEP A DEFECTIVE PRODUCT! Take it back!
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Um... did it occur to you that they might be waiting for word on whether it's a fixable software problem or a non-fixable hardware problem? If the manufacturer would only learn to

C O M M U N I C A T E

(a skill which you might think a manufacturer of communication devices would possess), they would make it a whole lot easier for customers to make informed decisions.
 
Anyone keeping an eye on the number of "suicides" at Foxconn this month? Too far.....?
 
WeegieMac said:
I'm right handed, but the way you describe holding your phone is how I've held every mobile phone I've owned.
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So you're a princess but many of us have had mobile phones maybe longer than you and have never held them that way. And , as a cell phone company, should know that and the phone they put out should work for both ways of holding it.
 
quagmire said:
Hmm.. My original and 3G dropped plenty of calls when the bars dropped.

This whole issue has been about signal strength! You put your hand over the left corner which kills your signal strength which results in that dropped call! And the same goes when you cover that spot and the signal goes down when you go on Safari, etc. The previous iPhone's as shown in those videos have shown the same behavior as the iPhone 4! Including my old iPhones!
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Seriously, stop looking like a Steve puppet and read the Anand article.

iPhone 4 suffers 10x worse attenuation than the iPhone 3GS, when holding it in the manner you suggest.

All iPhone 4s are affected, even yours with which you claim not to have the issue. The reason you aren't seeing the issue is that the iPhone 4 shows 5 bars of signal until pretty low in the signal band. Then the bars drop off pretty fast, over the course of about 18 dbs. The iPhone 4 doesn't require a bear hug to lose 20 dbs of signal, only being touched in the proper spot. A light finger tip at the right point does it.

That point happens to be one of the natural holding positions, as shown time and time again by Apple during demos and in advertising material.

That is the issue. If you're in a place where a 20 db drop in signal doesn't result in No Service, you don't see the issue. It's still there.
 
This whole signal thing just isn't as much of an issue as people are making out and I can't understand why hundreds of thesse people posting videos all the moaning etc and no ones figured out with a bit of technology common sense what's going in here.

YES you can reduce the signal of the phone by gripping it like a ****ing chimpanzee. If anyone makes a phone call and truly holds the phone like that they should be shot, your hand would be almost over your mouth for a start off no wonder the other person can't hear you!

But seriously the issue is more when you hold it in your left hand to text or use and affect the signal.

There are hundreds of videos of idiots saying they have the issue really bad and other idiots saying they haven't got it at all.

EVERYONE has the same issue i repeat EVERYONE. If I sit in my house and do the death grip i go from 5 bars down to 1. If i stand outside where i obviously have a stronger signal there is no way for me to reduce the signal with the "death grip"' at all, neither does it affect any speed test over 3G. Indoors I can crippled my speediest by using the "death grip"

So obviously doing this reduce the db of signal by a certain rate. Looking at some if the antenna posts ther is a good 50db of sway for 5 bars. Obviously at some point the reduction the "death grip" makes on the signal is less than the difference between the brst and worst db signal to get 5 bars.

Hence the morons who insist they don't have the issue in their YouTube videos, notice they've all got 5 bar signals, no one has three bars, grips and stays on 3 bars.

Therees a signal point where full 3G speed comes through the phone and its somewhere in hhe 3 bar region hence death gripping somewhere where you don't get the effect will not change 3G seed because you already maxed that out at 3 bars.

Now does everyone unestand this? It's not really rocket science, there's so much unbelievable non scientific bollocks being written about the issue, it's as simple as above.

I agree with Steve there is no real issue, there is a slight weak point on the phone if you are somewhere with a weak signal and hold it tightly in your left hand to reduce signal. But there are also many places with the iPhone 4 you not only get better signal than the 3GS but also than any other phone as well, so swings and roundabouts.

Generally the iPhone 4 antenna improves signal and makes clearer calls unless you hold the phone like a complete retard in a weak signal spot.

Case closed.
 
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