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Obviously there is no hard data but there are several commentaries on that point. The problem is that the device requires active carrying versus the passive carrying of the touch. There is no need to lay it down, no need to carry it in a bag or in your hand since you can slip it in your pocket, no need to think about the device. The touch is like you watch or your phone there is no thinking to carry it around. the pad requires you to think before you carry it.
It the end the majority of people that purchase the device, will just leave it at home. This does not allow the air play of seeing others with the device unlike the touch.

Hm. I'm not sure you're right about the last point, given that it is just as portable as a netbook and I see quite a few of those about. Even if you were though, it just delays the tipping-point of recommendation and can be ameliorated to a large extent by a well-crafted marketing campaign on launch. Regardless of what the product was, or who was releasing it, I'd think that a new product category would take a cycle to embed in the popular consciousness; witness Walkmen, MiniDiscs, iPods and (if you believe they are a separate category) netbooks. It takes time for people to forget the preconceptions of previous categories and learn the new conceptions. So it is most likely to be a slowish year, but that won't mean it is a failure.

I'm actually writing an article on the last point right now; a fun piece of applied cognitive science research to entertain me on a Sunday afternoon. :)
 
I dont see pad/tablets as a market that there has to be single product/brand domination in.. The iPad will support kindle books, the kindle will continue to cater to the literature buffs and the android things will sell too..

It's not as much like the iPod/itunes thing where convenience really does make having a single brand of device pretty nice. People will buy whatever supports the casual browsing etc and apps they want to use, and there'll be a lot for all three devices.

People should lay off all the "this product will kill that product" drama. You don't have to be the biggest fish to exist healthily. I suspect Apple will do just fine from the iPad, and it's later revisions though either way.
 
There's no need to take sides - Steve isn't providing a replacement for Flash - I don't know why people think HTML 5 does because it doesn't, at least not today or anytime soon.

Only a few of the Windows fanboys infesting this forum do, actually...the rest of the civilized world couldn't care less about a removable battery.

And that's the problem with Windows geeks asking for every feature out there in a single device; they don't have a damn clue about what the market REALLY needs, as they try to project their own fringe needs as if they represented the needs of the masses.

A gazillion of iPhone/iPod Touch DON'T CARE about Flash, removable batteries or an "open app store" - this is a fact.

Unconsciously or not, they know that the benefits of a better controlled/integrated/intuitive environment FAR outweigh the appeal of neverending customization/feature lists/malware-ridden ecosystems.

The same will happen with Flash, as Apple was the FIRST to advocate its demise. They did the same with floppies, with single-touch phones, with bad mobile browsing, with text-based OSs and so on...SJ sees the way forward, while the rest of the flock continues to cry over spilled milk.

Get real, folks; the iPad will NOT flop, in the same way that the iPod and the iPhone didn't back in the day.
 
Don't be rude. I have comcast. It's not ADSL. I'm just telling you what I get. Why would I lie about that. Speedtest.net shows a DL speed of 18 mbit/s. Activity Monitor shows a consistent 1.6 mbyte/s when I DL. This is Comcast's standard package. Sounds like you need a better Internet connection.

actually i have comcast with the fast home connection they offer. not trying to be rude just stating the facts. If you do not like the facts then stop debating the facts with incorrect information.
 
Without Steve Jobs there would be no Mac, iPod, iPhone, iMac, iPad. We'd be stuck with the crappy printers and digital cameras of the "dark ages"

Come on. I don't think anyone has suggested we should travel back through time and prevent the return of Steve Jobs in the late 90's, thus preventing the invention of the iPod et al.
 
New Core 2 Duo processors, radio on the iPhone, 2Mp camera on iPod Touch... something about getting from A to B but not quite making it.

Well, I wouldn't consider radio on the iPhone an update... :D

Still disappointed, BTW, that the iPad doesn't have GPS... Oh well... You can't have the iPad being the iPhone killer I guess... :apple:
 
"We hate flash, but we'll put it in our promo videos to trick the consumer"

Damn. Im really starting to hate Apple.
 
That's not the only reason.
They also want to make products which they would like to use.
Otherwise they would be making cheap, low quality $ 500 like other companies do.
At least, that's Jobs' mentality.

In other words, Apple is driven by a design that leads to profits, while the rest is PURELY driven by a clueless search for profits...ironically, we all know how "well" they are doing with the zero-profit netbook debacle. :rolleyes:
 
or sit down with Adobe and help them fix their software.

your signature doesn't say but is it Apple or Adobe that you work for since you seem to know that such an offer hasn't been made, several times. And Adobe is more than willing to open up their IP to exposure to accept that help.

Three months until the launch is long time in mobile internet.

given that HP etc couldn't even say 'in 2010' 60 days to 90 days will be fine. The ipad will be on the market for weeks before anything else is ready to launch

Consider that Apple wants to have warehouses worth of these things ready to go on the launch. They will probably pull back restock of other units so the backroom staff will have lots of shelves to fill up with ipads for release day. FedEx and/or UPS will be doing 6 day a week restock so that the stores won't ever have even one day where they have to say "we're sorry we sold out of that model yesterday and won't get more until at least tomorrow" as they have with the phones.

and it is possible if they are in that position in 45 days they will bump up the release.

as for the 90 days. it seems they don't have the final signature by the FCC on the 3g. And they can't control that timing. Nor would they want to bump back the release and look like mugs. So 90 days gives them more than enough time and if it is ready to go in 60 who says they can't go ahead.
 
"We hate flash, but we'll put it in our promo videos to trick the consumer"

Damn. Im really starting to hate Apple.

If this was the case, they'd have never corrected the promo in just 2 days; this was just a marketing company's screw-up when cutting and pasting screenshots of websites onto the iPad.
 
I would venture to say that Touch OS 4.0 is up and running on the iPhone, iPod touch and iPad and just needs some tweaks before release this summer.

To show off Touch OS 4.0 now, would have been too early. By delaying, Apple gets a double whammy on the iPad and a push for the new iPhone.

Steve is definitely playing his cards well. :)
A delayed "Oh, and one more thing…"

I love it :D
 
Proprietary Arguement

I find it interesting that everyone comments on flash/silverlight being proprietary and no one talks about H.264 which is required along with HTML 5 to replace flash. This is a proprietary standard which just happens to be owned at least partially by Apple. If you want to argue about the proprietary issues then this has to at least be discussed. I am in the market to buy my first mac in the next month or so if they come out with an i5/i7 macbook pro but I'm not impressed when I see this kind of information and am considering rethinking a purchase. As a possible future purchaser and I own about 4-5 computers which I will eventually replace and possibly my phone as well, this kind of info about Apple doesn't impress me. Still strongly considering but they will really have to impress me with their GRAPHICS options as well as their chips. No ipad for me until they give an SD card slot (expandable storage), support for the current standards, real eInk, and multitasking (which I can do with my blackberry storm, and commonly flip between web, game, messages, applications).
 
I think Jobs is going to take this touch screen thing too far. iMacs to the next level scares me. PLEASE don't include a touch screen. Touch screen needs to stay in the portable market, not the desktop one. Update the processor, memory, dual hard drives (?), bigger screen, etc. but don't make the system touch screen.

I look forward to Apple including the multi-touch screens on all of their hardware. I've always wanted to be able to take the screen to read or review things, to brows the web. The iPad has all this down. An iMac, a laptop, etc with a multi-touch screen in addition to mouse and keyboard would be great. The mouse and keyboard become optional additional inputs.

Another item I am a little iffy about is apple making their own processors

Apple making their own processors is a really good thing. Decades ago I studied and did processor design on a small scale. By doing it themselves they'll be able to more tightly pack the device, eliminate connectors, improve power management and increase reliability. These are key factors in the market. The processor can run any op coding. Any software can be made to run on it. That is a non-issue. What they're doing is vertical integration which will give them better control, higher margins, lower price points and consumers will get better products. Intel should be scared.
 
Don't know if this was mentioned but interestingly enough Lee Brimelow, Flash evangelist, responded in the comments section of the Wired article:

What someone should have asked him is if he is actively working with Adobe to try to resolve the issues with Flash. The answer is unfortunately no. Steve, we are ready to work around the clock. All you have to do is open your door.
Lee Brimelow
Adobe


With all the Flash backlash Adobe is in a tough spot.
 
If this was the case, they'd have never corrected the promo in just 2 days; this was just a marketing company's screw-up when cutting and pasting screenshots of websites onto the iPad.

No, they just didn't want to get caught.
 
Without him, you wouldn't exist

Without Steve Jobs there would be no Mac, iPod, iPhone, iMac, iPad. We'd be stuck with the crappy printers and digital cameras of the "dark ages"


Without Steve Jobs, there would be other products and they would be called differently. Which is, in the case of the iPad, would be no bad thing.

Jobs is not The Creator, we would have got on differently without him and of course, we wouldn't know about it. Perhaps, the web would be less controlled by such a few companies without Jobs. But we wouldn't be in the dark ages. So, you grow up!
 
Don't know if this was mentioned but interestingly enough Lee Brimelow, Flash evangelist, responded in the comments section of the Wired article:

What someone should have asked him is if he is actively working with Adobe to try to resolve the issues with Flash. The answer is unfortunately no. Steve, we are ready to work around the clock. All you have to do is open your door.
Lee Brimelow
Adobe


With all the Flash backlash Adobe is in a tough spot.

It has nothing to do with stability, and everything to do with controlling the apps that can run on Apple devices. If it were truly about stability, they would block it from Safari on OS X as well, but instead, they've made it so Flash crashes independently of the browser. Smoke and mirrors.
 
More specifically, products that can only run software from which Apple gets a 30% commission for selling. Remember the big brother from the 1984 Apple commercial? Surprise! It's Apple!

You're talking only about a portion of the products they sell, the mobile ones. Nevertheless, maybe you're forgetting that by doing so they have also managed to create a fully secure mobile OS - a month ago I think, some fraudulent apps were discovered in the Droid's App Store - as well as they've prevented badly written applications to ever see the surface.

Being closed is not all bad. Actually, for the mobile platforms I think it's the best way. The last thing I'd want to worry about is the security of my smartphone. I don't use an antivirus on my computer, so why would I pay for one for my smartphone? And why would I want to ever run an applications which can damage or even just make my smartphone crash?

The problem is not closeness, it's that they're too strict. But the situation has gradually improved over the years.

And yeah, they make money from the software too. So what?
 
Yeah your right, allot of people are not going to buy the iPad (at least for surfing the net).

Maybe when it has some compelling apps in the next year or so.

But the crippled mobile internet isn't what most people want on a 10 inch screen.

Did you tell that to the over 75 million (and growing) iPhone & iPod touch users? I don't think they got your memo.:rolleyes:
 
Obviously there is no hard data but there are several commentaries on that point. The problem is that the device requires active carrying versus the passive carrying of the touch. There is no need to lay it down, no need to carry it in a bag or in your hand since you can slip it in your pocket, no need to think about the device. The touch is like you watch or your phone there is no thinking to carry it around. the pad requires you to think before you carry it.
It the end the majority of people that purchase the device, will just leave it at home. This does not allow the air play of seeing others with the device unlike the touch.
That's very interesting. I forget to carry my cellphone all the time. It shows how useful it is to me. :D
 
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