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Steve Jobs at Apple Town Hall Meeting, Google, Adobe, Next iPhone, 2010 Macs and More

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bbplayer5 said:
Wow... Steve spoke and you all drank the Kool Aid lol...

Nexus One is already better than the iPhone and the argument can also be made for the droid. Everything about those phones is better, save the app store. I think the App store has something like 10,000 more farting apps.
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Nexus One better? Say that to mine which is dead after 8 days of ownership. :(

I love the Android platform and the Nexus One hardware but I can't help but feel that htc and Google could have put a bit more testing in the device before rekeasing it. I've seen a few posts oline where other Nexus Ones have died in the same way. I just hope that it isn't a widespread problem.
 
I most likely won't buy an iPad but I see the usability of it and won't try to stop people from getting one.

It is evolutionary, for a certain point of view... Who knows, I may end up owning one. Unfortunately dissing Flash and Java isn't helping convince me that I should trade one rather open product (Java) for one that seems more proprietary (iPad) or at least very much locked down.

The industry is full of examples of closed products that eventually failed because they were closed and that closure ended up being the noose that hung the product.

Apple has to be perhaps more sensitive to this issue.

It would be like a computer coming out in the early nineties that did not have a floppy drive as an option. Sure, the floppy deserved to die but it would have been pushing that too far at that time to declare it totally dead.

I just wish Jobs hated (or disliked) AT&T more than he apparently does. The iPad being AT&T only was probably the biggest disappointment for me. I don't know what that does to the rumours of an ambidextrous iPhone...
 
AnalyzeThis said:
Wow Steve decided to go after Flash, but what about crap-ware called Quicktime?

We have Macs and Windows boxes at home. I never had any complains about Flash from any family members. But Quicktime is crashing all the time and its performance is way worse than Flash. Apple never heard of hardware acceleration on any platform. :mad:

Clean your house first Steve, before bashing others products... The reason you doing nothing about blu ray is because you cannot handle its stream bandwidth in CPU anymore and Mac OSX has no hardware acceleration in place, available for over 10 years. Talking about performance, LOL.

At very least, the on going "MAXI PAD" fiasco got him to crawl out of his cave.
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I assume you are talking about QT player crashing in Windows? (I've never known it to crash in OSX). Read up on the architectures of the Mac OSX vs the Windows NT Kernel. Windows is a pile of crap. In regards to QT, the main reason for the crashes, I believe, has to do with the way Windows handles processes (or doesn't handle them more to the point). Apparently Windows doesn't like to spawn new processes for anything. It likes to bundle them together into system processes so that they run along with the processes from other apps. That's pretty archaic and inefficiently.

Mac OS X on the other hand can spawn new processes left and right and stop and start them at will. They don't get lost, they don't have to be rerun, they just get routed through nicely and efficiently.

Now, you could argue that Apple optimize QT for Windows by completely rewriting it for that platform -- but it would be a step backward. Why prolong the pain of someone on Windows, right. Of course, you may say that this is what Apple is expecting of Adobe and its apps? But here we are talking about Adobe finally catching up with modern technology and advancing their apps, not knee-capping them. So, Adobe is lazy in this regard.

Me, if I were Apple, I wouldn't have worry about developing anything for Windows at all, but they seem to have a bit more heart than I. They did need to develop QT generally (which leverages open codecs BTW) in order to head off the debacle that was going to be an internet locked into Windows Media or whatever flavor they call it from week to week. And I think the QT plugins work ok in IE, but if Windows users want to stick with their Windows Media and AVI and DIVX players and editors while the world/Google/internet/professional industries go H264 etc, then they can have it.
 
WilliamLondon said:
If it is then I for one will love Apple that much more. I have an AppleTV, I use it every day, I love it, it's one of the best devices I ever bought. I got rid of cable 2 years ago and haven't missed it once. I watch all the latest television shows (no commercials!), I rip DVDs and beam them to my device - it's a brilliant device, so if the iPad provides 1/2 as much joy and utility as the AppleTV, it will be my pleasure to own one. Do I give a rat's ass how many of these they sell? Not really - as long as they keep producing useful products I'll keep buying and enjoying them, that's success to me.
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Ditto.
 
moutian said:
I do hate flash, but as it is used so widely, can we mac users do without it now???
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I run with Flash off. I also use PithHelmet for further control. Browsing is much better. Almost all Flash content is ads and junk glitz that is unnecessary. MacRumors with Java & Plugins off is grand. Same with almost all web sites. If I want to turn them on for individual sites PithHelmet lets me. It would be really great if Apple incorporates this as an advanced user feature into Safari.
 
laptops will reach new highs in 2010...
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gocardsfan1 said:
I...I'm not sure what they could really do, besides lower prices...
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I think we'll see lower prices on one end. But the iPad suggests new possibilities: we're in a transitional period, with the iPad representing a semi-laptop, with a touchscreen. I think it's entirely possible we'll see at least one MBP model this year with a touchscreen, or maybe a BTO for one. That's approaching the convergence from the other end. Or maybe a laptop that's basically a juiced-up iPad with a keyboard attached, and using iOS, as apple's "final" response to the netbook. The possibilities are endless. In terms of mobile/laptop computing, this is definitely the year to "think different".
 
cjbriare said:
I agree with this totally. Apple is right about flash.

However, the fact that apple has 140,000+ apps for iphone, that is hard enough for android, etc. to keep up with. I'm sure if apple brings multi-tasking, more customizable settings, and all other complaints people are making to iPhone 4.0, or the next iphone, it will be far more popular.
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Stability is a big issue. Novice users can't deal with crashing. If Apple wants to reach the masses, which they're demonstrating with the low $499 price and easy iPad, then they need a very stable machine. They've been working up to this with the iP's.
 
kingcobra2010 said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megabit

125 kbytes - 1 Mbite

so your adsl is 5 Mbite max which is a max of 600 kb max out second you you have to get a max upload station. That is not happening in 2 hrs not even close. Try again
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Don't be rude. I have comcast. It's not ADSL. I'm just telling you what I get. Why would I lie about that. Speedtest.net shows a DL speed of 18 mbit/s. Activity Monitor shows a consistent 1.6 mbyte/s when I DL. This is Comcast's standard package. Sounds like you need a better Internet connection.
 
PinkyMacGodess said:
The industry is full of examples of closed products that eventually failed because they were closed and that closure ended up being the noose that hung the product.

Apple has to be perhaps more sensitive to this issue.
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Especially since that's one of the biggest reasons they lost out to Microsoft in the 90's
 
Hankus said:
Those of us who have supported Apple for decades and now think they're going down the wrong path will bloody well speak our minds, thank you very much.
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Going down the wrong path?

If you have supported Apple for decades then should know better. Sorry!
 
ungraphic said:
doesnt bill gates/microsoft own a large percentage of apples stock rendering the companys decisions somewhat limiting? somebody correct me on this, but ive had friends tell me microsoft owns a large chunk of apples stock so they cant do whatever they like.
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No. Bill Gates doesn't even own Microsoft.

ungraphic said:
either way though, no matter what apple is making, its peanuts compared to microsoft.
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The difference is Apple is growing and innovative.
Microsoft is failing.
There's still time to sell Microsoft stock...
 
Always fun

To hear the company cheerleading.

This site sure is polarized today. Now all we need if for someone to say Obama came out in favor of Flash and we can really light things up.

I agree with Apple about Flash. I disagree about Blu-Ray...it seems like they are just dragging their feet. With Flash they have a point...with Blu-Ray they really have none.

Many people seem to post that Apple does not want Blu-Ray or Flash because they compete with the iTunes store or App store. This...does not make alot of sense. When the iPhone first came out - there was no app store and still no Flash. But there was the free You Tube from day 1. Also, why doesn't Apple disable DVD players since they compete with the iTunes store, or CDs? Agree or disagree with Apple's stance, I don't think conspiracy theories that do not make sense are necessary. But users will decide, just like users pushed the creation of an App store.

There are probably some features people want in their phones that the iPhone does not have. As it is my first phone, and pretty much the coolest piece of tech I have ever owned, I can not always relate to the feature requests. I see how people would like to have multitasking - particularly for IM which I don't use. But now people can get a phone with multitasking that is not an Apple phone. They just have to make certain other tradeoffs - one the biggest of which is the App Store I think, but there are others. So, Apple has so far bet on no multi-tasking outside of its apps, but the market has created others for those people for whom this is a killer feature.

From Apple's point of view they are making money hand over fist with the iPhone so they are pretty confident their direction is a good one. If the iPhone starts to tank or the iPad does tank they will need to respond. I think the iPad is cool and will get it to carry around academic papers, but my biggest surprise was the antiquated home screen. Some other mobile platforms have much more useful home screens now - and the standard app screen as the first screen looks a little dated to me.

Anyway, it will be interesting to see how things develop and the beautiful things competition creates (obligatory throw away inflammatory comment: now only if we could de-regulate medicine and get some competition there).
 
Originally Posted by Chaos123x View Post
Does anyone see why the investors booted him out of his own company the first time?

Visionaries are often the first on the wall when the others don't like the visions provided. The fact that Apple brought Steve back and has grown into the company that it is actually reflects more question on the decision to fire him than it does on the firing. Sculley, wasn't he the leader that ousted Jobs, nearly ruined Apple... The decision to fire Jobs however could have saved Apple though as well. Steve probably grew up as a leader from that episode. It would be interesting to know what would have happened if Sculley had been the one ousted instead of Jobs... An interesting question...
 
IntelliUser said:
They also want to make products which they would like to use.
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More specifically, products that can only run software from which Apple gets a 30% commission for selling. Remember the big brother from the 1984 Apple commercial? Surprise! It's Apple!
 
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