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Flash is buggy, no matter the platform. Unfortunately, it is such a standard that Apple's disinclination to support it for the iPhone is a headache for many. I don't think it's ever going to happen...Apple is moving on and expecting everyone else to follow.
Apple is our best chance at getting widespread HTML5 adoption any time soon. If they add it to the iPhone/iPad web developers will have significantly less motivation to change their Flash habits.

I don't know about you, but I want the Flash to HTML5 video adoption rate to happen a bit faster than transition we are seeing from IE to Firefox/Chrome.
 
Addressing the subthread about how much or how little Steve Jobs contributes to charity vs. Bill Gates and the Gates foundation: I'm willing to bet that he contributes a fair amount, but it doesn't get publicized.

Despite my screenname, I don't really dislike Bill Gates. It may very well be that in person, he's a nicer guy than Steve Jobs. I don't know or care. I do think he's a poster boy for the current American ideal that one's business ethics can be completely separate and antipathetic to one's personal ethics. (Steve Ballmer, on the other hand—I don't think you have to have met him personally in order to dislike him intensely, and I do!)

I applaud the charity work Bill Gates has done with his foundation—when Steve Jobs retires and fails to do anything for humanity will be plenty of time to compare him unfavorably to Bill Gates.

For what it's worth, Apple contributed $100,000 to the "No On 8" campaign in California, and due to a firestorm of hate from the right-wing noise machine, all the Apple computers you see on TV (which is about 95% of them) have had stickers over the Apple logos ever since. Google contributed the same, if not more, but somehow they're immune to this kind of abuse.
 
wow, looking forward to the new macs this year. since they just re-did the imacs i doubt they'd to a major revamp to them...but if they did a major re-do of the mac mini, i could very well pick one up.

i hate flash. glad to see movement away from flash sites...

apple's beef with google? good for you and me. same with apple's battles with windows...good for you and me. apple needs competition...it makes for better products.
 
BluRay players for your TV are getting cheap. Get one of those instead (and watch on super-huge displays). Or just download HD onto an Apple TV.

So if I've already bought a blu-ray for my living room, I need spend more and buy a separate digital edition from Apple for my Macbook when I'm traveling?

Do you not have any sense of reason?
 
For what it's worth, Apple contributed $100,000 to the "No On 8" campaign in California, and due to a firestorm of hate from the right-wing noise machine, all the Apple computers you see on TV (which is about 95% of them) have had stickers over the Apple logos ever since. Google contributed the same, if not more, but somehow they're immune to this kind of abuse.

I just noticed this in a show I was watching over the weekend -- there were loads of Macbooks with stickers over the logo, but scenes showing the screen and keyboard were obviously Mac & OSX.
 
The average person doesn't care what's on a website - they just want it to work. When they start seeing empty boxes and things not working they'll be less than thrilled.

Apple should run the business as a business, and not engage in useless philosophical arguments such as to support or not to support Flash. Blu-Ray is here to stay, Flash is here to stay, whether Apple likes it or not. eSATA is already much more common today compared to Firewire and yet there's no eSATA on Macs. HDMI too.

These are stupid things for a company to not adopt on basis of their philosophy and belief. And why is the card reader only SD on a Mac when everything else out there can read a bunch of different media types?
 
So if I've already bought a blu-ray for my living room, I need spend more and buy a separate digital edition from Apple for my Macbook when I'm traveling?

Do you not have any sense of reason?

Many Blu-rays, like almost all of Disney's releases, come with a digital edition for use with iTunes or WMP along with the Blu-ray.

Obviously this doesn't apply to to all Blu-rays, but it completely solves the "need to watch it on a plane on my laptop" problem. And it's not just Disney, a few other companies do it as well. I wish they all did.
 
These comments have got me questioning my choices for 2010 a little. I've been using a MacBook+iPhone setup for quite a long time, and since the iPad's announcement have decided to move to using iPhone+iPad+iMac. This means 2010 would be the year of my first iMac purchase. Should I wait to see what this 'next level' iMac is, all the while, my MacBook Pro drops in resale value? Or should I just move to a 29" Quad tomorrow...Steve's just gone and made things a lil confusing...

The thing people seem to be losing sight of is that this wasn't a press release, it was an internal meeting. This may be what they're thinking now, but it doesn't mean they'll still be thinking it a couple of months down the line.
 
"A+" sounds like it's below "magical and revolutionary" in the hype scale, so wouldn't expect too much :)

LOL, what would you like? A teleportation device? Any upgrade that anyone would want wouldn't be "magical & revolutionary".

The only thing to glean from Jobs' words that "it will be hard for Google to catch up with us" is probably partly in reference to the A4 chip that will probably be inside the iPhone. Google doesn't have the ability to make REIT own chips.
 
An iPhone using the same industrial design as the iPad would be pretty god damn slick. Never liked the cheap plastic build of the 3G & 3GS. It's fine for a low end option but you gotta give people a premium option too. I'm guessing the "A+" is not only hardware but software. I keep reminding people of the copy & paste situation. It took a while but does anyone dispute the iPhone has the absolute best mobile copy & paste implementation out there today? Sometimes it takes a while to get some of these features out the door but when Apple does it, they do it right.

The only weakness about the same industrial design as the iPad is the signal reception. Apple would most likely solve that problem with an ugly, black plastic edge on the top. With all the effort that Apple has put into the magical iPad, there will be no reason to go an hero over the "A+ upgrade" of the iPhone unless they double or triple the battery capacity.
 
Nothing philosophical about it. It's about $$$. If flash is available, people won't buy those Games/Apps on the app store anymore!

The average person doesn't care what's on a website - they just want it to work. When they start seeing empty boxes and things not working they'll be less than thrilled.

Apple should run the business as a business, and not engage in useless philosophical arguments such as to support or not to support Flash. Blu-Ray is here to stay, Flash is here to stay, whether Apple likes it or not.
 
Have you been compiling those quotes since the iPhone launch yourself, or is there some website that's doing it?

I do compile information that I find interesting from time to time. But a bit of creative digging will turn them up anyway.

MDN compiles a lot of this stuff though, because the site admins know that every so often the time will come when we need to serve some good 'ol claim chowder.

They've been playing up the "Beleaguered Dell" angle for a few years now, for example, and it just tickles me every time I see it. Poetic Justice always hits the spot.
 
Apple is our best chance at getting widespread HTML5 adoption any time soon. If they add it to the iPhone/iPad web developers will have significantly less motivation to change their Flash habits. I don't know about you, but I want the Flash to HTML5 video adoption rate to happen a bit faster than transition we are seeing from IE to Firefox/Chrome
You're obviously not a developer if you think web designers can just "kick" flash like it's a bad habit. Designers use what works and it just happens to be that Flash works and is installed in most browsers. Flash is still the best way to put video on the web and will be until Mozilla, Apple, and Microsoft all get on the same page.

HTML5 sounds good until you get right down to the implementation. Until Internet Explorer supports <canvas> and <video> in HTML5 and/or Mozilla decides to support H.264 or Apple decides to support ogg theora, Flash will be with us for a long time for web video. It's a hodge podge mess and the w3c hasn't done anything to help the situation.

Windows 7 supports H.264 right out of the box so that's a move in the right direction. We need IE to support <canvas> and <video>. As soon as that happens, we'll see more adoption but not a minute sooner. Apple can push "no flash" on people but IE is really the driving force. Mozilla is going to hold out as long as they can on licensing until they're forced to do so.
 
Nothing philosophical about it. It's about $$$. If flash is available, people won't buy those Games/Apps on the app store anymore!
More like "Aww man, this Flash game doesn't friggin work anyway cause I don't have a keyboard/mouse."
 
Addressing the subthread about how much or how little Steve Jobs contributes to charity vs. Bill Gates and the Gates foundation: I'm willing to bet that he contributes a fair amount, but it doesn't get publicized.

Its off topic, but for the record, Bill Gates doesn't deserve much of the fortune anyways.

As a company, Microsoft is more evil than some of the other tech companies we see today. And Bill Gates is very cunning and con artist. If it was some other company, some of the MS executive will go to jail. Its all under Bill Gates super vision.

The whole saga about QDOS (Quick and Dirty Operating System, renamed to MSDOS ofcourse) licensing to IBM is a case in point. He slowly leaked bugs to news papers about CP/M in a controlled manner (over the period of time) to the press so that IBM executives will give up on CP/M and invest in QDOS. And his Mom knew a few IBM executives as well.

Also, there is a famous anecdote about how Paul Allen overheard Gates and Ballmer discussing Allen's health and how they can get hold of his shares if Allen were to die . Link


Also, he gave a huge charitable contribution to HIV in India (very commendable), but literally used that visit to India to kill off Linux in India (by giving more $$ to some indian companies/govt agencies than the Charitable amount). I cant find the exact link, but here is the close one


Though I do have the respect for the foundation, I lost respect for Bill Gates after hearing about Paul Allen's story. So he made all this money in a lot of semi-con ways, so he should give it away.
 
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