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Steve Jobs Confirms Discontinuation of iWeb in iCloud Transition
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You can move all your iDisk stuff to iCloud. You'll get storage options there as well. If anything, it'll far outclass iDisk.
That pretty much nails it. There just isn't a huge market for causal website creation. People either post stuff to a social network or use a pre-built blogging service that requires no coding (the later being essentially what iWeb was supposed to do).
It sucks when Apple kills support, and boy has that happened a lot in the iTools/dotMac/MobileMe/iCloud space (e.g. dotMac dashboard widgets). They've been depreciating the website component of MobileMe for quite a while (iWeb not being updated, removal of homepage, no webapp for the website component) so this really shouldn't come as a surprise. Hopefully, iCloud will be different this time around since it is pretty much the strongest selling point of MobileMe before it but better (syncing...although they never said sync during the keynote).
Still, you should never rely on any service staying there perpetually (heck, look at Google translate api).
Ugh, this is going to suck! I've got my wife's website set up in iWeb and she has a lot of files that she shares that are being shared on iDisk. Is Dropbox as easy to use as iDisk? I guess I'll set up hosting on GoDaddy or something. Who's got the cheapest price?
To the people who are saying that we were paying $99 per year for hosting you couldn't be more wrong... We were paying $99 for ALL the features of MobileMe and taking advantage of the hosting and iDisk that came with it.
What a pain in the ass moving all my files off of my iDisk is going to be
To the people who are saying that we were paying $99 per year for hosting you couldn't be more wrong... We were paying $99 for ALL the features of MobileMe and taking advantage of the hosting and iDisk that came with it.
What a pain in the ass moving all my files off of my iDisk is going to be
Ugh, this is going to suck! I've got my wife's website set up in iWeb and she has a lot of files that she shares that are being shared on iDisk. Is Dropbox as easy to use as iDisk? I guess I'll set up hosting on GoDaddy or something. Who's got the cheapest price?
To the people who are saying that we were paying $99 per year for hosting you couldn't be more wrong... We were paying $99 for ALL the features of MobileMe and taking advantage of the hosting and iDisk that came with it.
What a pain in the ass moving all my files off of my iDisk is going to be
While shopping around is a good idea, I would hold off doing anything until we get more info about iCLoud since we don't know if you can share stuff with iCloud or not (MobileMe is okay until this time next year so no rush). Although I'd avoid GoDaddy.
What a dick.
They canceled the .mac homepage, now they cancel the iWeb sites. This also indicates iDisk is going away since it also was not mentioned and since they said there is only 5GB of space.
The only thing left from apples Internet service is email and findmyiphone.
At that point it's better to switch to google or such. Is there a way to download all my mails from the last 4 years?
They canceled the .mac homepage, now they cancel the iWeb sites. This also indicates iDisk is going away since it also was not mentioned and since they said there is only 5GB of space.
The only thing left from apples Internet service is email and findmyiphone.
At that point it's better to switch to google or such. Is there a way to download all my mails from the last 4 years?
"Suck" generally applies to most Apple products and all services. I am surprised it takes so long for people to realize that.
Really? Honesty is a dickish reply?
I personally chuckled at the having to retrain comment from the concerned iWeb user.
You truly don't understand the W3C Specs and other Javascript/jQuery/SproutCore/Capuccino/MochiKit/PHP5/Java/SQL ,etc by how you learn a software tool that automates part of your work.
It just doesn't happen. You learn it by studying the APIs and the repetitive application of it's designs.
Sorry, but Apple never advertised iWeb as a premier Developer Tool. It was a quick tool for people who wanted to throw up a quick web site.
Tools like WebObjects, Xcode and the Cocoa APIs, LLVM/Clang, etc., are serious tools for serious solutions.
Personally, I do hope Apple re-launches WOF with EOF from it's roots, Cocoa/ObjC. To me, that would marry iCloud with OS X and iOS to complete the 3 tier solution to be deployed throughout Enterprises, Government Agencies, etc.
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That reply is not important. The important thing is that iWeb was not updated in years and it was not mentioned at the keynote. 99% chance iWeb and iDisk go away next year.
As someone who is not particularly knowledgeable in the field of web design, I really like iWeb. It isn't perfect, but it lets people like me design something that's useful without spending inordinate amounts of time on it.
I have zero issue with hosting through another service, I already do. You basically have to if you want to create multiple websites. What I really like is the built in FTP client that allows me to easily publish to my various accounts.
I also think the design templates were adequate, at least for my purposes. I couldn't care less if the hosting service goes away, few will argue that it was particularly good and there are certainly others out there for much less money than a MobileMe subscription.
I just hope the application itself continues to be supported through Lion.
I have zero issue with hosting through another service, I already do. You basically have to if you want to create multiple websites. What I really like is the built in FTP client that allows me to easily publish to my various accounts.
I also think the design templates were adequate, at least for my purposes. I couldn't care less if the hosting service goes away, few will argue that it was particularly good and there are certainly others out there for much less money than a MobileMe subscription.
I just hope the application itself continues to be supported through Lion.
I doubt that the iDisk will go away.. didn't they just update the app? Out of the whole MobileMe offerings I bet iDisk is one of the features that stays within the cloud.. else they will provide something similar.. Apple wants to provide ease of sharing files and this is one way to do so.
I can't imagine the Gallery disappearing, but I can see why iWeb is going. I like it, I use it (none of the templates for photos, movie and so on), and I'll have to find something else.
From what I've seen, the people who like iWeb wanted something very easy, and most didn't use the page templates. Look at iWeb - it had an "about me" page (with a section for "my favourite songs", and "my favourite web links"), a photo page, blog page, podcast page - it was about taking stuff from iLife and making a personal website, and it came out just when Facebook took off. So here I was picking a basic page from a theme and then creating my own websites from that, which was never really the intention of iWeb.
In terms of the original intention of iWeb, Apple would be better off creating their own social networking website. Integrate the logins for AppleID, Twitter, Game Centre, Ping and add the Gallery - and you've got an easy start to a facebook competitor.
Your iPhone updates where you are, your photos get published via photo-stream (restricted to friends and those identified in the photos?), your tweets are displayed, you have a list (with links) of "most listened to" and "5 star" songs, books you're reading, maybe your most used bookmarks ("favourite links"), you have a public calendar, you can challenge people to a game on game centre...
iWeb just didn't go the way Apple wanted.
I liked iWeb/MobileMe for quick things. I could put up a web page, password protected, for our small sales group to share files with instructions for their use. I didn't have to shop for an html creation app, learn how to use it, shop for a hosting service, figure out the FTP thing. I could just fire up iWeb, make the web page and publish it to MM and be done in an hour or so. I'm not interested in being a web designer. I've already got too many other irons in the fire. For this purpose iWeb and MM was great.
Same with Galleries. I suppose there are other services for this, but it would involve too many extra steps. I'll probably just do less publishing if galleries go away.
Same with Galleries. I suppose there are other services for this, but it would involve too many extra steps. I'll probably just do less publishing if galleries go away.
Finally!
Good! iWeb is a piece of ****. Always has been.
There are plenty of cheap web hosts out there and and HTML compliant templates out there that you can use and get better results from than iWeb.
I have never seen a remotely good website developed from iWeb.
If you still need a good program to develop, just buckle down and get Dreamweaver or something. You'll be better off.
Good! iWeb is a piece of ****. Always has been.
There are plenty of cheap web hosts out there and and HTML compliant templates out there that you can use and get better results from than iWeb.
I have never seen a remotely good website developed from iWeb.
If you still need a good program to develop, just buckle down and get Dreamweaver or something. You'll be better off.
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That sucks. What will happen to all my photos and videos on MobileMe. Almost 18gb
That sucks. What will happen to all my photos and videos on MobileMe. Almost 18gb
Well said.
People will just have to move their sites to another hosting entity (not a big deal) and they can keep using iWeb for their sites after doing so.
If you listened to Steve Jobs ar WWDC, you would have heard Jobs himself demeaning MobileMe. The questioner was merely carrying on the theme that Jobs implicitly endorsed. I seriously doubt he responded that way because he was offended.
Sounds like a possible course of action for Apple to take. If ever Apple does this, we will have to come back to this thread and give credit to you! May be this twitter relationship has more meat to it than what is currently believed.
I think techies in this thread who say 'go host your page somewhere else', do not understand that for a vast majority of people out there it is quite a mountain to climb. It is like some car enthusiast telling me, 'Oh your car does not run well, just replace the Johnson Rods, it is the simplest thing to do'.. Apple should be able to spin off the 'publish to mobileme' infrastructure to someone else and let them make a business out of it. I will gladly take it on for $20.00 a year per subscriber, if Steve offered it to me. Why? Because my customer acquisition costs are zero and I may have other things that these good folks will be interested in.
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Ya I love iWeb since I don't care about having a complex website. I just use it for a simple solution to post my portfolio. But ya, I saw this coming for a while since they haven't been updating it or mentioning it as part of iLife anymore.
Probably will be gone too
I use this all the time to send video previews to clients along with iWeb to post video previews for clients and it is so simple
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