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#$%^ you Steve Jobs!

If you force me to move my web sites and shift to something other than iWeb, I want a refund for every dollar I've ever spent on .mac & mobile me.

Time to retire and let somebody else run Apple.
 
do you think this means a new iwork? all of iworks apps have a "share to iwork" option. or will there be a small update that removes this option?

Go to iWork.com, I don't know if Apple is keeping this or not. It was announced a while ago.
 
You know the truth is that Apple hasn't said for certain what is to become of the idisk and web site hosting. All they have done is preview some features and actually start to roll a few out. Over the next year, there may be more announcements.

I really don't think it will be a problem for Apple to continue hosting web sites and allowing idisk. Think about it. No charge for uploading all your movies and music. But 20GB for idisk and a small web site will use up the storage capacity of the new facility?
 
#$%^ you Steve Jobs!

If you force me to move my web sites and shift to something other than iWeb, I want a refund for every dollar I've ever spent on .mac & mobile me.

Time to retire and let somebody else run Apple.

Steve hated MobileMe (if you read an earlier article about him cussing out its creators). Face it, it's a mess, and in my opinion, you shouldn't have used it.
 
What a load of ****ing ********!!! I have about had it with S. Jobs and his little tude lately. I know didly **** about building a website and my small auto business has a nice page now thanks to the ease of iWeb and the hosting which I pay for. Now I am screwed...thanks Jobs for continuing to be a douche.

I agree completely. This icloud BS is a retarded joke. Definitely Apple's Zune moment. It has been building for awhile, but it is DEFINITELY time for Jobs to leave or be forced out again. It's just like the days when they were stuck with the original Mac design because Jobs insisted it had to be that way and they had to kick him out of the company before they could bring out the first really successful Mac - the II.

Getting rid of iWeb, galleries, iDisk, etc. is an absolute slap in the face to their loyal customers.
 
Steve hated MobileMe (if you read an earlier article about him cussing out its creators). Face it, it's a mess, and in my opinion, you shouldn't have used it.

Apple sold it, I bought it, it worked just fine for what I needed. I have a significant amount of time & money invested in it and now Apple is screwing me. It's a dick move and the end of Jobs' usefulness in returning to Apple. He did some good things, but this is the point at which the company will be better off without him.
 
Apple sold it, I bought it, it worked just fine for what I needed. I have a significant amount of time & money invested in it and now Apple is screwing me. It's a **** move and the end of Jobs' usefulness in returning to Apple. He did some good things, but this is the point at which the company will be better off without him.

But doesn't MobileMe need to change? It was pretty messy and didn't have enough features. Also, I'm Apple will most likely give MobileMe users credit for iCloud.
 
Major dickish way to ask a question.

Read it again.


Q: Dear Mr. Jobs,

Will I need to find an alternative website builder and someone to host my sites?

I have invested a lot of time and effort and the thought of re-training sucks more than mobileme ever did.

A: Yep.


Dear Mr. Jobs:

Would you please take the time to answer my question.

*question is asked*

By the way, the service you created and which so many users paid for over several years sucks.

NOW read Jobs' response. All clear now?

But first need to change signature from "Sent from my iPhone" to...

Steve Jobs noted that Apple had tried cloud service. Steve Jobs noted that Apple had tried cloud services before. He said that some would say: “Why should I believe them? They’re the ones that brought me Mobile Me."

He admitted that Mobile Me, the cloud service that stores photos, contacts, emails and calenders, “wasn’t our finest hour but we learned a lot.” :D
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You people are hilarious. All indignant over Steve's response, HOW DARE HE, he should have profusely apologized to the questioner, and begged his forgiveness for discontinuing iWeb. Is what you people wanted? Or did you need want him to offer up consulting services? Why do all of you have a need to be coddled like fragile babies? He asked a question, and got the answer- an answer most rational people would have predicted.

iWeb is complete ****. Apple didn't even bother to touch it with the iLife11 update, and they hardly touched it with the 09 update. It's a rotting product. There's a million and one alternatives, all of which are better. I haven't ran across any websites created with iWeb for a long, long time, (you can tell straight away) so I doubt they are very numerous. Nor are they complex. Yes, some may be inconvenienced by being forced to transition, but that's the nature of change, and honestly iWeb is the least robust editor I've ever used, so I doubt these websites are representing anything of great importance or financial value. Most web-based editors are more powerful and flexible.

We got a full year of notice- until June 2012. I could probably convert any iWeb site to Wordpress, etc in a day. There's nothing unreasonable about the situation, so quit the faux outrage and bitching. Apple has had a history of agressively culling their stagnant software/hardware, and it's served them well.

You are an extremely uncouth person. Yes, Jobs should apologize for screwing his customers and yes he should change course.
Apple marketed iWeb and for a lot of people such as myself it worked just fine. I was happy with the price that I paid for it and I have significant time & money invested in what I have done with it. It is ABSOLUTELY reasonable that I expected Apple to return that loyalty. This is plain & simple an inexcusable dick move by Apple and it is ridiculous for you or anyone else to defend it by criticizing those who are damaged by this.
Time for Jobs to leave!
 
But doesn't MobileMe need to change? It was pretty messy and didn't have enough features. Also, I'm Apple will most likely give MobileMe users credit for iCloud.

Not in way that screws existing MobileMe customers. Otherwise I want a complete refund for every cent I've ever spent on it.
 
Really? Honesty is a dickish reply?

I personally chuckled at the having to retrain comment from the concerned iWeb user.

You truly don't understand the W3C Specs and other Javascript/jQuery/SproutCore/Capuccino/MochiKit/PHP5/Java/SQL ,etc by how you learn a software tool that automates part of your work.

It just doesn't happen. You learn it by studying the APIs and the repetitive application of it's designs.

Your comment is completely useless. iWeb was marketed to people who wanted to create a simple web page with all that stuff you mentioned. It works just fine for those of us who use it. This is Apple customer relations at its absolute worst.
 
I hate to see iweb go. it had lots of potential for people who want to make a nice quick website.

as for his response it doesnt surprise me his response his a little cocky or rude. The person is upset about losing iweb. Steve is worried about his health. He is suffering from cancer, so why does he care about the schmucks who cant use iweb.

steve may lose his life from cancer and none of his billions will save him, just like george harrison. Jobs doesnt give a crap about any mac user

Exactly why he should leave Apple now.
 
Newsflash: I asked what other people are using. Thanks for the rant though.
I think you can still use iWeb. You just can't use it with the Apple hosting that's all. You should be able to save your site locally and then upload it elsewhere (and even get your own domain now). There's also Sandvox and Rapidweaver if you are interested in trying similar software. Or as someone else mentioned, Squarespace is pretty cool too. But I think iWeb will continue to work just fine. It's just a bit more work to host it somewhere other than Apple.
 
Apple sold it, I bought it, it worked just fine for what I needed. I have a significant amount of time & money invested in it and now Apple is screwing me. It's a dick move and the end of Jobs' usefulness in returning to Apple. He did some good things, but this is the point at which the company will be better off without him.

That's a bit of an overreaction, no? Eliminating iweb will have almost no impact to Apple's bottom line or its stockholders. And that's how a CEO's "usefulness" is judged.
 
Are all these Steve Jobs emails legit? Steve is quite the man of few words (almost like a text message rather than an email). I remember the last time we had a story about an email (about SaaS) his answer was so vague that we were debating about what he really meant to say for a few pages.
 
Ugh, this is going to suck! I've got my wife's website set up in iWeb and she has a lot of files that she shares that are being shared on iDisk. Is Dropbox as easy to use as iDisk? I guess I'll set up hosting on GoDaddy or something. Who's got the cheapest price?

To the people who are saying that we were paying $99 per year for hosting you couldn't be more wrong... We were paying $99 for ALL the features of MobileMe and taking advantage of the hosting and iDisk that came with it.

What a pain in the ass moving all my files off of my iDisk is going to be :(
You should be able to save your iWeb site locally and just upload elsewhere. Don't reg a domain with GoDaddy. If you find a good web host, sometimes when you are a new customer they will let you reg the domain with them for free the first year. Look around. Thee are plenty of places to host from. The cheapest is NOT always the best.

I've used a number of hosts. I really like MacHighway. They aren't the cheapest, but they have very good support and don't try to scam you. Some of the cheaper services will opt you into things unless you specifically respond to them a certain way which they make deceptive. MacHighway offer a web disk that uses WebDAV so you can mount it just like an iDisk.

While Dropbox is an awesome service (it's really the iDisk that Apple always wanted to offer but never got it right - Dropbox did get it right), I wouldn't use it to host a website. Find a good web host. You'll be fine.
 
i like iWeb as a cms. (Content is what matters to me)

Will just shift my hosting elsewhere (1and1).
No worries.
 
Any suggestions for a not too expensive web hosting replacement?

Two options.
One is to DropBox it all, Dropbox has a public folder that lets you share online - I haven't tried it as a web host but in theory? Could work
DropBox Link

The second is GoDaddy - I find them excellent for uptime and service and non too tricky to use. They have lots of hosting options available, shop around and see what fits. I pay around £20 for a year with domain for www.clarkeapps.com and have more than enough.
Go Daddy Link



Please note those are both referral links and do benefit me in a small way, but I 100% endorse the products themselves.
 
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users will indeed need to find alternative hosting for their sites once MobileMe is officially discontinued.

I'm a bit dumb-struck. I use iWeb for my business website, but don't use MobileMe to host it.

Have I read it right that iWeb is being discontinued or is it just Apple's hosting of iWeb websites?

Seems really odd to me that Apple would discontinue a product that allows people to make their mark on the world wide web when the net is such a large part of people's lives these days.


It's probably good for the Internet as a whole to get people off of iWeb

Why?
 
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