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Steve Jobs denies iP4 reception issues!
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That's one of the original theories from a few days ago; that there's a coating of some kind on the metal antenna framing/chassis (it's some "magical" steel mix, who knows) that theoretically could lessen or completely alleviate the attenuation/signal degradation that most folks are having when they hold the iPhone 4 the correct way which means exactly how Apple's own marketing images and videos show (sorry, Mr. Jobs, but you're an idiot with that ridiculous email).
As noted in countless posts around here and other forums, there's two issues at hand (pun intended), one seems to be software related and the other is most definitely hardware:
1) attenuation/degradation by holding the phone normally as most everyone does, left hand (unless you're left handed, of course, but you may still hold it in that hand) and operate it with the right (index finger, etc). This seems to be causing issues for some reason and could be related to the theory that the circuitry in the phone simply isn't noticing the signal drop because of the blocking by the hand itself and adjusting the frequency or power output accordingly. This is what's hoped to be "fixed" by some rumored software update that Apple has not officially made mention of so far.
2) The bridging of the two antennas (cellular and Wi-Fi) that's causing outright loss of signal and service completely. This isn't something I believe a software fix can address unless it re-routes something internally - there's a short happening between those two antennas when they're connected, and while doing such a thing technically can have some effect, it shouldn't be of the level of degradation that so many of us are experiencing. It's a hardware issue that I don't believe can be easily brushed aside by a new piece of firmware but that remains to be seen.
As noted in countless posts around here and other forums, there's two issues at hand (pun intended), one seems to be software related and the other is most definitely hardware:
1) attenuation/degradation by holding the phone normally as most everyone does, left hand (unless you're left handed, of course, but you may still hold it in that hand) and operate it with the right (index finger, etc). This seems to be causing issues for some reason and could be related to the theory that the circuitry in the phone simply isn't noticing the signal drop because of the blocking by the hand itself and adjusting the frequency or power output accordingly. This is what's hoped to be "fixed" by some rumored software update that Apple has not officially made mention of so far.
2) The bridging of the two antennas (cellular and Wi-Fi) that's causing outright loss of signal and service completely. This isn't something I believe a software fix can address unless it re-routes something internally - there's a short happening between those two antennas when they're connected, and while doing such a thing technically can have some effect, it shouldn't be of the level of degradation that so many of us are experiencing. It's a hardware issue that I don't believe can be easily brushed aside by a new piece of firmware but that remains to be seen.
You are too funny. Just because your phone has this problem (and I believe you that it does) you deduce that "Every Phone" has this problem. LOL. So I guess that following your logic I could say "my phone does not have a problem so none of them do. It's so obvious".
Did anyone consider that "stay tuned" didn't mean "keep watching"? Instead it was a simple pun? Tuned as in tune the antenna?
Mine too!!!
But I get to test it in more areas today as I have to travel a bit. Areas that may not be a laced with ATT cell towers like my home area.
*crosses fingers
People tear his terse emails apart with a passion unseen by anyone except Bible scholars and Theologians.
Or Cult members looking for meaning when their isn't any... coincidence?
I'm thinking 'There is no reception issue' means that it's not a fundamental flaw but a glitch that's fixable. i.e., the problem is not with the phone itself.
You know if they had simply made the antenna split int the top left corner, top right corner, and bottom center of the phone, would anyone have noticed the problem? How many people touch the bottom or top of the phone?
Btw the fix will be they will just disable one if the antennas
Btw the fix will be they will just disable one if the antennas
Ughhh, you've never paid attention then. The 3GS has done it for years. Actually, I have a hard time thinking of any radio device I've ever used whose reception didn't alter when someone touched it. Stereo antennas, fm transmitters, old school television antennas, and cell phones have all always done it.
10 to 1 it's a software issue and will be fixed next week.
Do they come in red? Can I buy just one?
The single glove edition is only available for righties; but it *is* a deluxe model...
One bar is acceptable. But all bars? No. Will wait for a fix for this amazing device
Most likely they will issue a software fix and make a statment if you are still having a problem make an appointment to see a Genius. At that point they will replace. I seriously doubt they will come out and issue a recall.
And by Steve I guess you mean Steve Jobs? And there's an official press release on Apple.com stating this? If so, can you please point the rest of us to that press release, since his emails aren't necessarily official nor explanatory enough and only being understood by potential implication?
Thanks...
No way Apple is recalling over 1 million phones - the time to process them, dispose of them, fix them etc, just isn't worth the cost of building and shipping a replacement. I actually don't think they have the infrastructure to even pull it off!
Absolute worst case they'll just tell you to keep the phone and they'll ship you another when the problem is fixed.
Total cost $200million - not so bad in light of the possible outcomes.
If the issue is real we'll know by Tuesday when Apple will most likely suspend shipments and all new sales and issue a notice similar to the one above - if not it's software or a non-issue then we'll hear nothing.
Absolute worst case they'll just tell you to keep the phone and they'll ship you another when the problem is fixed.
Total cost $200million - not so bad in light of the possible outcomes.
If the issue is real we'll know by Tuesday when Apple will most likely suspend shipments and all new sales and issue a notice similar to the one above - if not it's software or a non-issue then we'll hear nothing.
Read between the lines. SJ's e-mails can always be taken as official declarations. They are written with the knowledge that they'll find their way onto the net.
Steve says "don't worry" and "stay tuned", you can bet something positive is about to follow. It isn't BS, it's a foreshadowing.
The single glove edition is only available for righties; but it *is* a deluxe model...
Do you really think you're the first one to post that?
If did not panic, there is a fix.
Or is this only for making haters to faint?
BTW how many people returned their iPhone 4, any number?
Do not mind my bad English.
Or is this only for making haters to faint?
BTW how many people returned their iPhone 4, any number?
Do not mind my bad English.
Sorry, I'm not a member of the Cult of Mac, that makes absolutely no sense to me unless you're forgetting to add a </sarcasm> tag in there someplace.
As such, there's nothing official from Apple so far as has been the case since this whole fiasco started days ago. Those emails, while having been verified by several people as valid, still don't constitute anything resembling a "fix" in the pipeline.
Jobs says we don't know how to hold it right (which is a lie), he says we don't have reception problems (which is another lie), and then he's saying "shut up and leave me alone" which is absolute truth and doesn't need interpretation.
I've learned that since 1976 at 9 years old I couldn't take Steve Jobs at his word then, nothing has changed in the past 34 years to alter that understanding (except that he uses much shorter statements nowadays, because back then you couldn't shut him up...).
As such, there's nothing official from Apple so far as has been the case since this whole fiasco started days ago. Those emails, while having been verified by several people as valid, still don't constitute anything resembling a "fix" in the pipeline.
Jobs says we don't know how to hold it right (which is a lie), he says we don't have reception problems (which is another lie), and then he's saying "shut up and leave me alone" which is absolute truth and doesn't need interpretation.
I've learned that since 1976 at 9 years old I couldn't take Steve Jobs at his word then, nothing has changed in the past 34 years to alter that understanding (except that he uses much shorter statements nowadays, because back then you couldn't shut him up...).
BBC is anti-Apple, always has been, although there are people there that are Very pro Apple, but hardly you read them regarding Apple news.
The same with Obama, BBC hails everything anti-Obama.
It is ridiculous, but as they say it is democratic.
A proof?
Read News.BBC.Co.Uk
Jobi-Wan Kenobi
Obi-Wan: You don't need to see his identification.
Stormtrooper: We don't need to see his identification.
Obi-Wan: These aren't the droids you're looking for.
Stormtrooper: These aren't the droids we're looking for.
Obi-wan: There are no reception issues.
Stormtrooper: There are no reception issues.
Obi-Wan: He can go about his business.
Stormtrooper: You can go about your business.
Obi-Wan: Move along.
Stormtrooper: Move along... move along.
Obi-Wan: You don't need to see his identification.
Stormtrooper: We don't need to see his identification.
Obi-Wan: These aren't the droids you're looking for.
Stormtrooper: These aren't the droids we're looking for.
Obi-wan: There are no reception issues.
Stormtrooper: There are no reception issues.
Obi-Wan: He can go about his business.
Stormtrooper: You can go about your business.
Obi-Wan: Move along.
Stormtrooper: Move along... move along.