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This doesn't make any sense. Either when you're getting that signal you're holding the phone insanely, or you have a defective unit.

The common signal issue is crossing the line between the two antennas in the lower left. It is not always reproduceable, but a single finger over that area can drop signal.

Now entirely cupping the bottom of the phone might drop the signal... but that's just an effect of covering the antenna.

NO INSANE GRIP!!! Just holding it as delicately as Jobs did in his revealing of the phone and as normal as they do in the FaceTime adds.

Gripping it normally like I did my 3G and 3Gs and had no issues with those.

It sucks cause other then this MAJOR problem the phone is amazing!
 
I have read their tech articles. From my point of view they report facts, though would not kiss apples ass like other sites. They would never allow Apple evanglelists to write stories, BBC has policies where it must be seen as neutral. An Apple Fanboy would never be allowed to write for them, not to mention it would cause complaints.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8761240.stm I would not call that story exactly anti apple, To be honest, if Jobs and apple did not come out with daft statements, journos would not have all this fuel.

Frankly thier tech site kinda sucks, and so its not just apple. It would never go to the BBC tech site for tech stories.

Assuming that Apple evangelists does not criticize Apple (read Macworld), any criticism is based on fact. True criticism i mean.

BTW most of their Apple pieces is written by Maggie Shiels, a clearly anti-Apple pundit.
Read anything she wrote about apple.

Again it is about perception.
If you want Apple to fail you'll accept non fact to prove that Apple is worthless of any success.
 
Actually, poor reception has been noted by several large Apple reviewers - including Walt Mossberg.

Neither of those is known for being particularly critical of Apple.

That's putting it mildly. Mossberg routinely sucks up to Steve Jobs & Apple. He might be a senior citizen, but he's an Apple fanboy & worshipper through & through.
 
I did have a few dropped calls. I hope that there is a fix to this. I never had a problem on my 3GS. But my main problem is hanging up on people. The sensor that detects if the phone is up to your ear is a little jacked up. Anyone else have this problem?
 
NO INSANE GRIP!!! Just holding it as delicately as Jobs did in his revealing of the phone and as normal as they do in the FaceTime adds.

Gripping it normally like I did my 3G and 3Gs and had no issues with those.

It sucks cause other then this MAJOR problem the phone is amazing!

I don't see how this could possibly happen through a case. Even without a case, I still think some units are worse than others (or people, or areas, or some other variable).

I can reproduce the issue on my naked phone about 70% of the time, when I have my finger across the bottom left of my phone. The edge of my palm, or anything else that normally contacts it, very infrequently causes the issue. This is when driving around Milwaukee, WI, moving between several cell towers in the area.

If some people's phones are so sensitive that casually holding them causes them to tailspin so easily, either the resistance of different people are different enough to change this issue, or the cell tower is different.

Still don't really see a plausible explanation for how it'd happen through a case...
 
He could grip it by the husks!

It's not a question of where he grrips it! It's a simple matter of signal attenuation. A 1/2 inch thick hand is too much for the iPhone to handle! Ooh ooh, I think we all need spankings for listening to this crap! Zoot!?! Zoot!?!
 
That's putting it mildly. Mossberg routinely sucks up to Steve Jobs & Apple. He might be a senior citizen, but he's an Apple fanboy & worshipper through & through.

That is pure ignorance.
If he love Apple's aesthetic he sucks.:(

Accept that it is sane for people to disagree with you, and that it is not a sign that they are wrong.
 
Solution is simple:
-Either return it and buy other phone or wait for a fix.

You clearly missed the point of my post, otherwise, you would not have answered as you did. :rolleyes:

I have a problem with AT&T, not with the iphone........This isn't a new issue, just a new issue with this newly designed phone. People complained about the bar thing with 3GS.
 
Jobs doesn't have an assistant to filter his emails? he replied to your right away and there was news about him exchanging emails with a blogger in the middle of the night a few weeks back.
 
Take it to Apple

Just went to an ATT store and proved the bumpers and cases do NOT FIX anything. Tried all the cases and bumpers they have and went from full signal on both 3G and wifi to no signal on 3G and dropped me two bars on the wifi.

The person helping me didn't know what to tell me she was shocked...

I think a good test will be when the next wave of preorders get theirs and see if they have the same problem. Apple has to respond to this issue and I don't think a software fix will do the trick.

I can't hold my phone like normal when surfing the web, calling or doing anything that needs the 3G connection.:(

They didn’t give you another one? Go to Apple store I’m sure they will give you a new one as yours sounds like a real lemon because almost everybody else has said a case stops it and I have not heard anything about WiFi being affected.
 
You clearly missed the point of my post, otherwise, you would not have answered as you did. :rolleyes:

I have a problem with AT&T, not with the iphone........This isn't a new issue, just a new issue with this newly designed phone. People complained about the bar thing with 3GS.

;): My bad.
 
it'll probably be a firmware fix so when the signal starts to drop it pumps more power into the antenna to counter that :p
Heh, there's a thought... maybe the antenna needs way more power than the FCC would allow, so Apple tested and released the phone with the weakest possible transmission and then after the phone is off the FCC's radar, they alter the phone with firmware that gives it such a power boost it zaps a hole through your head, with a SAR rating of 200W/kg. ;)
 
That's putting it mildly. Mossberg routinely sucks up to Steve Jobs & Apple. He might be a senior citizen, but he's an Apple fanboy & worshipper through & through.

ALL these big time reviews do it. ALMOST NONE OF THEM mentioned the antenna reception issues after using the iPhone for OVER A WEEK.

Only Mossberg did *kind of* brought it up by burying it at the end of his article, but he did make it sound like it was just some cosmetic issue with the wrong number of bars appearing. all these guys are a joke.
 
I think he may have entended for the bumper to be a temporary fix, if there was a reception issue and there was absolutley nothing that could be done to fix it other than gheto rigging it with some tape or a bandaid then this issue would have been much worse.

Sorry, I just don't buy the conspiracy theory that they knew about the issue and decided to turn lemons into lemonade by selling rubber bumpers at $30. Since there seems to be just as many phones that do not have the problem as there are ones that do, it is much more probable that Apple did not detect the inconsistent signal problems since replicating all the variables that likely cause the issue is next to impossible.

And before anyone starts calling me a fanboy, or other childish name calling, please note, I am only appling common sense, no affinity to apple is intended.
 
Jobs doesn't have an assistant to filter his emails? he replied to your right away and there was news about him exchanging emails with a blogger in the middle of the night a few weeks back.

I think he is very well paid.
Apple is not afraid of bad publicity, it is in Apple vein.

He should not complain about the amount of e-mail, imagine how many  haters insult him.
 
For what it's worth, I have an iPhone 3g, and since upgrading to iOS 4, I have a much worse signal in general (holding phone, not holding phone, any scenerio at all). In my apartment (it's partly underground), I get 3 bars (and have no real service quality issues) on my 3g when it is running 3.1.3. Since upgrading to iOS 4, I get "no service" or 1 bar, and I am rarely able to place calls. I tried downgrading to 3.1.3 and the problem went away.

For fun, I also tried using FuzzyBand (a tool that people with jailbroken phone use to downgrade their baseband firmware) to run iOS 4 but with the baseband from 3.1.3. Using this combo, I still see a weaker signal (less bars) than with 3.1.3, but I am able to place calls reliably. To me, these things add up to a problem with iOS 4 handling the signal.

I have to admit it sure does seem like a hardware problem going on, but I do have to say that I can absolutely observe behavior that indicates a software problem going on. I have total confidence that Apple will fix it one way or another. That being said, my iPhone 4 is reserved at my local Apple store. What's the current best guess for when the stores will get their next shipment?
 
Sorry, I just don't buy the conspiracy theory that they knew about the issue and decided to turn lemons into lemonade by selling rubber bumpers at $30. Since there seems to be just as many phones that do not have the problem as there are ones that do, it is much more probable that Apple did not detect the inconsistent signal problems since replicating all the variables that likely cause the issue is next to impossible.

And before anyone starts calling me a fanboy, or other childish name calling, please note, I am only appling common sense, no affinity to apple is intended.

Clearly thinking rationally and waiting for all the info to come in rather than jumping to conclusions makes you a fanboy. You make me sick. ;) :rolleyes:
 
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