It's not simple antenna attenuation. It's because you are shorting out two antennas. How is Apple going to fix it ? But wait, Apple says there is not a reception issue. So nothing to fix or stay tuned for. LOL
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Steve Jobs denies iP4 reception issues!
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It's not simple antenna attenuation. It's because you are shorting out two antennas. How is Apple going to fix it ? But wait, Apple says there is not a reception issue. So nothing to fix or stay tuned for. LOL
Speedtest
OK, did a speedtest.net on the iPhone 4S:
Not covering the infamous areas: Down 1865 and up 1634 kbps
Now at the same location within a second covering the corners (as I usually hold the phone, little finger bridging on the right and palm on the left side):
Down 705 and up 197 kbps. The signal strength did not even change yet.
So - there is a reception issue as well, its NOT just a faulty indication of signal strength.
OK, did a speedtest.net on the iPhone 4S:
Not covering the infamous areas: Down 1865 and up 1634 kbps
Now at the same location within a second covering the corners (as I usually hold the phone, little finger bridging on the right and palm on the left side):
Down 705 and up 197 kbps. The signal strength did not even change yet.
So - there is a reception issue as well, its NOT just a faulty indication of signal strength.
You, and many others, are mincing words and intention.
Of course there is an issue that people are experiencing. What I believe the Apple CEO is saying, perhaps choosing his words poorly, is that the issue at hand has been addressed internally by Apple engineers and will be made available shortly.
I won't put words in his mouth. To me, he is saying there "is no issue", meaning it's about to be put to rest.
Hopefully, everyone will be back here after a purportedly success fix is implemented and post just as vociferously. But, probably not....
Odd. There was a video link posted demonstrating that when the phone was held the "wrong way", it actually interfered with transmission as well as reception. By simply placing a finger over the seam, the callers voice faded out on the other end of the call but was not dropped. When the finger was removed, the voice became audible again. If we take the multitude of testimonials as fact, then the issue is very inconsistent and would seemingly make it next to impossible to prove or disprove any one thing.
Sorry to bust your bubble but the BBC and apple get along just fine. The have a huge amount of apple hardware and software. What anti apple proof do you have?
Wow, there are some really imaginative interpretations of Jobs' e-mail in this thread ("software update Monday confirmed!" ???).
It sounds to me, and seems more likely, that he's repeating Apple's official statement that there is no issue with the iPhone 4, that it's normal for cellular reception to decline when you smother a phone's antenna. "Stay tuned" probably means they're planning on giving out free cases because everyone's complaining so much, and are just working out the details (how to distribute, how to credit people who already bought one, whether to include third-party options, etc).
It sounds to me, and seems more likely, that he's repeating Apple's official statement that there is no issue with the iPhone 4, that it's normal for cellular reception to decline when you smother a phone's antenna. "Stay tuned" probably means they're planning on giving out free cases because everyone's complaining so much, and are just working out the details (how to distribute, how to credit people who already bought one, whether to include third-party options, etc).
Agree. The range of experiences is valid and real. At this point, all any of us outside of Cupertino know is speculation and assumption.
I realize that its not right that you should HAVE to do this to get your phone to work, but are you guys really that broke that you can't afford a case? It almost seems like a lot of you are feeding off this. Obsessing over this. You don't realize how awesome that phone you have really is. Sure, having to buy one more thing isn't right and Apple really dropped the ball, but if buying a $15-$25 accessory will make your superphone work, then isn't it worth it?
you got it all wrong.....
you have to read the whole email to understand steves response,
he is writing to steve asking for a free case, thats all, and happens to mention that hes not happy with the signal drop outs, therefore steves respone:
"There is no reception issue" means "I believe all phones do this".
"Stay tuned" means "Some one will contact you shortly about a free case".
read the whole email, the only thing he asks steve is how to get a free case, steve adds the reception comment for a jibe...........
you have to read the whole email to understand steves response,
he is writing to steve asking for a free case, thats all, and happens to mention that hes not happy with the signal drop outs, therefore steves respone:
"There is no reception issue" means "I believe all phones do this".
"Stay tuned" means "Some one will contact you shortly about a free case".
read the whole email, the only thing he asks steve is how to get a free case, steve adds the reception comment for a jibe...........
Either there's a problem and they have to do something about it, or there's no problem and therefore they shouldn't even be giving out bumpers.
You see, this is exactly what i'm talking about. You're comparing a $500 CAR SPOILER to a CELL PHONE CASE. You can find some cases online for about $1.50! I'm not saying that Apple is right in this issue, and they have really ****ed up, but this is what I think you whiners need to do, and asap. Buy a case or JUST TAKE THE **** THING BACK! PLEASE GO BUY AN EVO.
I'm not convinced that a bumper is a viable long term solution.
People have reported mixed results with them.
So is the demand for oil. Give BP a call cheer them up , you have a great cheerleader attitude every time apple mess up.
The new hardware is great, I love it. New os is more of a yawn, more of the same. Finally glad the phone has a awesome quality finish to it.
Ok. This is the REAL meaning of Steve's now famous email :
"There is no reception issue" means the problem does not entail the concept of "reception"
"Stay tuned" means a fix for the REAL issue is forthcoming.
"There is no reception issue" means the problem does not entail the concept of "reception"
"Stay tuned" means a fix for the REAL issue is forthcoming.
Some people are reporting that the bumper doesn't fix their problem, so I would be wary of spending another $30 to add a case that 1. i dont want and 2. doesn't solve the issue.
I'm pretty sure Apple will rectify the situation this week, so I'm not too worried at the moment.
well, touching an antenna doesn't have anything to do with software...however, touching an antenna definately can change the way software see's a signal. So in a software change, the system would be able to differentiate between a signal and an attenuated signal. Just my two pennies.
Viable long term solution? It is really simple. You put the bumper on and test the phone. If the problem goes away, your golden. If not, then it must not be a "viable long term solution." A lot of you guys are definitely putting waaaay too much thought into this thing. I haven't had any issues with signal strength and I bought a case anyway. Why? Because I like to protect my expensive investments.
