Steve Jobs denies iP4 reception issues!

[NT1440]

Since when "zapping through a whole in somebody's head" is illegal? Have I missed something?

There are legal limits to the strength a cell phone can transmit at.

 

[d00m42]

Since when "zapping through a whole in somebody's head" is illegal? Have I missed something?

Quite frankly, it's impossible to "zap a whole" through anything...

 

[tigres]

Since when "zapping through a whole in somebody's head" is illegal? Have I missed something?

No. Still legal, as long as u use a bumper.

 

[funkydita]

I dont know if anyone has said anything yet from the UK but I havent read all 11 pages... anyway, I am on O2 network and havent yet managed to initiate this signal drop either in standby or in a call. It may just be hit and miss or it could just be an AT&T issue? I have no idea. seems odd.

Oh and just for the record this my second iPhone and I have had many a poor mobile phone before these so overall Im happy

No, I have the problem too and I'm on O2 in London. I've never had an issue with either the 2g or 3g although O2 reception has always been weak at home. With a bumper it's fine, holding it normally (I refuse to call it a death grip because I'm holding it gently) the reception dwindles and I get "searching" then "no service" and if I'm using it the call breaks up and I get a "call failed".

 

[doctor-don]

Although I am retired, I do not plan on reading 11 25 or more pages of comments to find out whether the antenna (on an iPhone that is having reduced / no reception when touched / held by the corner) is exposed and thereby being grounded.

 

[DMann]

Heh, there's a thought... maybe the antenna needs way more power than the FCC would allow, so Apple tested and released the phone with the weakest possible transmission and then after the phone is off the FCC's radar, they alter the phone with firmware that gives it such a power boost it zaps a hole through your head, with a SAR rating of 200W/kg.

Since when "zapping through a whole in somebody's head" is illegal? Have I missed something?

This would depend on how you interpret the term "hole."

 

[cloudberrybrew]

This is what mass hysteria looks like.

I agree, imagine an EMP of mass proportions shutting down electronics over an entire country or every major city in the US, people would haven no idea what to do

 

[kernkraft]

No. Still legal, as long as u use a bumper.

Or a gun... you also have to make sure that you join the police first and whoever you shoot is underprivileged, so nobody important bothers.

 

[Fuchal]

I had read about it, but I never thought I'd see it... I didn't think it really existed, but it is undeniable at this point.

This is what mass hysteria looks like.

It really is quite absurd. I noticed this loss of reception the first time I had my first cell phone, 10 years ago, and not once did I think something was wrong with the phone, and very rapidly did I develop the technique to minimize the effect.

http://www.thomas-fitzgerald.net/2010/06/26/about-that-iphone-4-reception-problem-and-the-bigger-issues-in-technology-journalism/

Read.

Sorry, this is not the same. I have never owned a cellphone that was rendered useless by holding it.

When someone asks me "Can I see your phone?" and I reply "Sure", they hold it in their hand and instantly lose all data and voice connectivity.

If that happens, something is seriously wrong.

That said, I look forward to any information or fixes Apple can provide this week. If it's not resolved in my 14 day return period, I'll be returning my first iPhone - I've bought each one on launch day since the original iPhone.

 

[cloudberrybrew]

Or a gun... you also have to make sure that you join the police first and whoever you shoot is underprivileged, so nobody important bothers.

heck lets all just prepare for war.

 

[Jr1985]

I had read about it, but I never thought I'd see it... I didn't think it really existed, but it is undeniable at this point.

This is what mass hysteria looks like.

It really is quite absurd. I noticed this loss of reception the first time I had my first cell phone, 10 years ago, and not once did I think something was wrong with the phone, and very rapidly did I develop the technique to minimize the effect.

http://www.thomas-fitzgerald.net/2010/06/26/about-that-iphone-4-reception-problem-and-the-bigger-issues-in-technology-journalism/

Read.

I know! It happened in Salem, and now it's happening here, OMG!

 

[kernkraft]

Ha! That was a ridiculous spelling mistake on my part! I'm such a dork!

Sent from my iPhone (from the bath).

 

[marksman]

Do not, I repeat, do not, try to make love to your phone.

 

[cloudberrybrew]

Do not, I repeat, do not, try to make love to your phone.

this

 

[DMann]

Do not, I repeat, do not, try to make love to your phone.

Would Face Time sex fall into this category?

 

[hfletcher]

I posted this on another thread as well, but thought it would be relevant here too.

This is a video I made showing a 3GS experiencing the signal loss issue once updated to iOS 4.
So it's not iPhone 4 specific apparently.
It's either ALWAYS been like that (just never noticed it), or it's specific to iOS 4.... I think it could be the latter.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQDJfLTINaE

 

[482123]

Nah... its much more fun for the whiners to pontificate on things they don't know about, call Apple thieves and liars, and generally piss and moan.

I really have had it with the tech community over this issue. I've never seen such a group of babies in my life. I'm going to just continue to use my flawlessly (in fact superior) functioning iPhone 4 and do my best to warn the non-obsessed that this is a bogus issue trumped up largely by Gizmodo to drive down APPL prices. (And for those of you who don't get that, ask yourself why NYTimes used Gizmodo as their primary source... or why ANYONE would use Gizmodo as any kind of source at this time.)

From everything I've seen, reception in weak signal areas has improved greatly, but drops back to previous weak levels when the antenna is blocked by the hand.
The new antenna looks to be a great improvement with a slight downside, largely due to regulator requirements that put the radio as far away from the head as possible.

I've never seen such an overblown broo ha ha (sp?) over what Jobs correctly identifies as a non-issue.

Enjoy your whining folks... par for the course here.

Are you having issues with your phone? Don't you think you'd be upset if you kept dropping calls with your new $300 phone?

 

[cloudberrybrew]

I posted this on another thread as well, but thought it would be relevant here too.

This is a video I made showing a 3GS experiencing the signal loss issue once updated to iOS 4.
So it's not iPhone 4 specific apparently.
It's either ALWAYS been like that (just never noticed it), or it's specific to iOS 4.... I think it could be the latter.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQDJfLTINaE

we've seen it all <3

 

[tfskora]

Does anyone know why the issue isn't replicated with the WIFI antenna? If it's a antenna issue, shouldn't the wifi being bridged with the bottom affect wifi connection?

 

[Anuba]

I think Anuba was having a bit of fun with that post with that wink smilie... At least I hope that was the case!

Yeah, probably 97% joking, but also 3% serious because at the rate they're going with weirder and weirder design choices, policies and statements I sometimes don't know what to believe anymore. I mean... 'don't hold the phone like we do in our commercials', really?

 

[gri]

Hi All

Not sure if this has been covered in other posts (scanned through but could not find it).

Correct me if I am wrong (I am sure somebody will)

- There seem to be three black separators on the frame on the iPhone 4.
- The iPhone 4 is a multi band phone 850MHz to 2.4GHz

There are potentially 3 antennae elements on the iPhone of different lengths.

If this is the case then it is quite likely that Apple uses different ones (or multiple ones linked) for the particular band being used at the time as you get better efficiency if you have an antenna of the right length for the band in use. In the past you would physically trim the antenna length, these days there is magic performed at the antenna interface. This is called antenna tuning by many.

If shorting out (or providing an electrical connection with your finger) between two of the antenna elements occurs then some magic may need to be performed to re-tune the antenna elements if the band you are using was not already using these two elements connected.

Some bands (i.e. some people) will not need the retuning so will see little or no change, some bands will and it looks like some are. The solution is to re-tune or switch bands.

If the re-tuning can be done in software then a software update will probably reduce this problem to the level you would get with any other phone.

Trying not to read to much into this but that would match with Steve's comment of "There is no reception issue. Stay tuned"

THAT sounds entirely logic to me. And it would be a nice play of word from SJ...

 

[cbotved]

iOS4 is (read: must be) the problems

Hi,

I can't be the only one to have this problem...

When the iOS4 was released I quickly updated my old 16gb white 3G with it.

And since then the reception has been EXTREMELY poor. I have never tried anything like this, the signal is lost all the time, when hold in hand...

So as I see it, it MUST be a software problem, that must resolve ASAP!

 

[482123]

I had read about it, but I never thought I'd see it... I didn't think it really existed, but it is undeniable at this point.

This is what mass hysteria looks like.

It really is quite absurd. I noticed this loss of reception the first time I had my first cell phone, 10 years ago, and not once did I think something was wrong with the phone, and very rapidly did I develop the technique to minimize the effect.

http://www.thomas-fitzgerald.net/2010/06/26/about-that-iphone-4-reception-problem-and-the-bigger-issues-in-technology-journalism/

Read.

Did you lose complete signal and drop calls with this first cell phone? That's what people are dealing with here. It's not mass hysteria. People are rightfully upset their new iPhone 4 isn't working properly.

 

[furi0usbee]

I think we can stop with the signal loss videos for now... I've been able to reproduce the issue with my friends iPhone 4 (no bumper) sitting next to my iPhone 4 (with bumper). It's real, and all the videos out there prove it.

So, assuming we all stipulate there is "some" issue, I think we have to wait for Apple to "fix" anything on their end, or just continue to swap out phones for irate users, or give them free bumpers.

For those that say they can't reproduce the issue, you are lucky, so count your blessings. Either you have a good phone, live in a strong coverage area, or hold your phone using glass-only. Whichever it is, it works for you, so leave well enough alone and pity the poor souls who are having difficulties.

 

[gri]

You see, this is exactly what i'm talking about. You're comparing a $500 CAR SPOILER to a CELL PHONE CASE. You can find some cases online for about $1.50! I'm not saying that Apple is right in this issue, and they have really ****ed up, but this is what I think you whiners need to do, and asap. Buy a case or JUST TAKE THE **** THING BACK! PLEASE GO BUY AN EVO.

Watch your language and don't make hasty conclusions. I barely indicated that it cannot be right that you have to buy another piece of equipment to get something to work which should have worked in the first place. Ever heard of the word "analogy",,,?