Do you seriously believe this poll proves anything other than 16,000 people responded and somewhat over half have the problem?
And how are you stretching any facts to get to that?
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Steve Jobs denies iP4 reception issues!
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Do you seriously believe this poll proves anything other than 16,000 people responded and somewhat over half have the problem?
And how are you stretching any facts to get to that?
Steve jobs emailed me back and said " this was a microsoft issue please contact them." now what do I do?
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1.5 million > 1 million
And not EVERY iPhone 4 user is on here and voting.
Probably because they can't get online reliably enough with their iPhone 4 to vote in the poll!!!
"Hello... Apple Tech Support? Yeah I'm...<click>" DAMMIT!!!
"Hello? Can you hear me now? I can't get my phone to wo<click..." CRAP!!!
1.5 million > 1 million
And not EVERY iPhone 4 user is on here and voting.
Christ. The point is that if over a million phones had the issue almost every phone on the market would be experiencing these troubles. And we all know that isn't the case. I thought that was quite obvious, but I can spell it out.
Why do you say that? I have two iPhone 4s that exhibit this behavior. Eric (WildCowboy) does as well. Are you suggesting we are mistaken?
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Has anyone ever considered that the interpretation of the signal by the OS is so sensitive that a lower signal is actually interpreted as no service and does not let you make a call even if there is still a signal that would allow it?
While I agree that the signal does drop when you cup the phone (which by the way is very awkward to hold to your ear fully cupped), apparently this is a natural issue that MANY cellular devices have, and which has already been proven by videos or manuals from other device makers themselves.
My signal drops too, but I have not had an issue making ANY calls yet so I will use the wait and see approach.
While I agree that the signal does drop when you cup the phone (which by the way is very awkward to hold to your ear fully cupped), apparently this is a natural issue that MANY cellular devices have, and which has already been proven by videos or manuals from other device makers themselves.
My signal drops too, but I have not had an issue making ANY calls yet so I will use the wait and see approach.
1.5 million > 1 million
And not EVERY iPhone 4 user is on here and voting.
So? Not even 20,000 are voting.
I don't think the phone will drop a call because the perceived signal strength is weak, it will only drop it if the actual signal received is too poor to carry the call (i.e. the phone tries to do its best with whatever signal it gets, and if that doesn't work the call is obviously dropped).
if its a software issue, it will be fixed. but if its a design flaw, i doubt apple will admit this. it seems more likely they will just call it a bad 'batch' regardless of the number of units affected and issue refunds or replacements or whatever.
Yup, software fix is coming tomorrow. IMHO there is no real issue here other than AT&T signal is no good in some areas. It has been shown that the 3G speed on i4 is already WAY better than i3 even when holding it in some bazaar way that supposedly causes signal loss. So when this software patch comes out expect it to be even better.
what a douche insulting your intelligence like that!
I don't think that was his intention. It more means "this never happened" once the iOS update goes live.
Almost like saying 6 months after it's fixed: "signal issue on the iPhone 4? there was never any signal issue" playing dumb.
Not at all arn. I'm suggesting a lot of flamers,baiters,teenagers that want to complain about nothing and other types of negative thinking type people have joined this board and probably voted they had issues just to be complainers.
The amount of those type of people on this board skews the poll.
It's an opinion. We all have them.
And btw. I agree that there are issues.
https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/10309425/
what a douche insulting your intelligence like that!
Well, it certainly was terse. In all fairness, rather than trying to be a douche (and let's fact it, this is Steve Jobs we're talking about, he knows how to be a galactic-class douche when he wants), he might have been saying "Don't worry, there's nothing physically wrong with your phone, just hang in there for a bit and we'll crack this nut."
(I suspect the problem lies in their field-testing the unit in 3GS-like fake housings. On the other hand, not everyone is experiencing the issue. It's all rather a mystery.)
I hope Arn doesnt take this poll seriously. Its not even close to being scientific. Even if the people responding to the poll were totally honest, the poll is still skewed, since it doesnt represent the population of iPhone users accurately (many posters on here have problems, which is why theyre here). You have to go outside MR to get accurate results from a poll.
This is not most polls.
Yet none of the professional reviewers who received a pre-release unit and compiled their experiences up to the embargo date of Wednesday had the issue. Not one. That's pretty interesting. I don't know what it means, but there are some intriguing possibilities. First, a late software tweak just before mass shipments might've broken something. Or there is a problem with certain batches. Or, maybe Apple just pays its reviewers well... ;-)
It'll get sorted out, of that I have zero doubt.
Typically you would cup the phone when holding it in your hand to touch the screen, not when holding it up to your ear. It is not a natural issue for it to happen to this extent. Going from 5 bars to nothing? This is the only cellphone with exposed antennae like this and it is clear that the signal is interrupted when some people's skin comes into contact with both at the same time.